West Ham Utd 3 Birmingham City 3 (09/04/12)

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Re: West Ham United v Birmingham City: Match Thread

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ihateroeder wrote:Blimey you are fickle, the bloke has been pretty poor for most of the season, has missed chance after chance. But scores one goal and suddenly he is brilliant, please get a grip, Cole will miss far more than he scores. Who knows how many Maynard may have scored had he been on the pitch.
Yes he will miss chances, like all strikers will, but he is also joint top goal scorer again and has provided a fair few assists along the way. He won everything in the air in the second half yesterday which set up numerous chances. He is not exempt from critisism, but some of the comments on here yesterday up until the second half were truly shameful.

Also, telling someone to 'get a grip' because he defended a player - I think you are the one who needs to get a grip in this instance.
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if you come out of this game with a clean sheet, you'll win this game today, I'm convinced about that". But unfortunately, I must have been talking Swahili...
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Great come back, although I feel we had to win this match and we wobbled again at home, a draw at home in our position just isn't a good result.
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Anyone know anything about Stella's injury?
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Given the way you played at Barnsley were you disappointed with the way they played in the first half?

SA: Well what they did was try to play the same way they did on Friday - and Birmingham didn't let us. That was the difference. What they should have realised, after a very short period of time, is that we cannot play this way, we cannot afford to make the sort of mistakes we did against Reading. That we did and unfortunately Birmingham punished us to the hilt with the quality of their finishing.

Is it not the managers job the TELL the players what to do/how to play? Or does he just send them out there and let them fend for themselves?
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anybody reckon giving danny potts a go at left back then? didn't do too badly if I recall correctly in his debut games.
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I thought the same stepney. Surely he should have been on the sidelines shouting "Kick it long to Cole". :?

Still, I'm pleased everyone is glad that we've got our West Ham back. Clearly it wasn't good football we wanted, it was suicidal defending followed by an all out attack desperate attempt to get back into it.
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Stepney wrote:Is it not the managers job the TELL the players what to do/how to play? Or does he just send them out there and let them fend for themselves?
Flip side of that ..... if a player keeps getting robbed of the ball after strolling it around the back four does he really need to wait for the manager to tell him to stop dilly-dallying??
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SJB

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I couldn't give a monkeys how they play the next four games.

Long ball or the West Ham way just play with the same passion and desire as the second half yesterday will do for and stop ***** about with it at the back!!!

Surely the players must see that their effort makes the crowd get behind them, creating an impressive atmosphere yesterday.

Must admit disappoint that Cole sat on his arse at the end and then didn't even acknowledge the fans as he trudged off.

Maybe we need to go back to Pardews Positive Mental Attitude ways. Pride, Passion and Belief.

For a moment, I enjoyed yesterdays 2nd performance and it brought back to me what it is like watching West Ham with a great atmosphere. Noise was unbelievable.
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ihateroeder wrote: Blimey you are fickle, the bloke has been pretty poor for most of the season, has missed chance after chance. But scores one goal and suddenly he is brilliant, please get a grip, Cole will miss far more than he scores. Who knows how many Maynard may have scored had he been on the pitch.

Wow.... I said he was brilliant in the second half which he was. And who knows what the result would have been had Sam taken of Cole instead of Maynard? I for one, don't think he would have been as effective due to the style we played in the second half. Carlton bossed the CB's, scored, ****ed on a lot of long balls and should have been awarded a penalty.... And to come on to the pitch after such a poor performance in the first half and turn the game around, I believe, is BRILLIANT.

And if you're going to call me fickle then maybe you should look in the mirror. Maynard was very good against Barnsley but apart from that game only has one over goal to his name. So to say Maynard would have been better on the back of 1 game where he played well, I think, is fickle.
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Stepney wrote:Is it not the managers job the TELL the players what to do/how to play? Or does he just send them out there and let them fend for themselves?
If you highlighted the rest of his quote too you would have seen what context he was talking about.

He was talking about making mistakes, clearly.

Be fair.
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Didn't Uncle Avi one time get famously quoted for doing just that ? Telling them to go out and sort it out for themselves..??

Or am I imagining it ?

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Cuenca 'ammer wrote:Didn't Uncle Avi one time get famously quoted for doing just that ? Telling them to go out and sort it out for themselves..??

Or am I imagining it ?
I might be wrong, but I thought it was Chelsea away last year, and someone (Noble, Parker?) asked who they were supposed to be marking, and he said to sort it out themselves or something?

May be wrong though.
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I remember a similar story, sure it was Parker who commented on it, but for the life of me can't remember the opponent, but you jogged my memory and I think you're spot on.

From the Special One's 8 page dossier to Uncle Avi telling them "Sort it out when you get on the pitch."

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Harlow Hammer wrote:Maybe we need to go back to Pardews Positive Mental Attitude ways. Pride, Passion and Belief.
Didn't see much of that shortly before he got sacked following our worst run of results since the 1930s (eight defeats on the trot, IIRC)!

As it goes I'm fairly sure some of Pards' words of wisdom are still nailed to the wall in the home dressing room.
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It was interesting to see how much the team was affected by the crowd's mood. When it became 0-2 and the crowd started complaining the passing definitely deteriorated and the wnergy levels went down. Similarly when it went to 2-3 and the crowd got behind the team the whole tempo went up.
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oh yes Pards phrases are very much cemented into the home dressing room to this day.....
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Paulo Wanchope wrote:It was interesting to see how much the team was affected by the crowd's mood. When it became 0-2 and the crowd started complaining the passing definitely deteriorated and the wnergy levels went down. Similarly when it went to 2-3 and the crowd got behind the team the whole tempo went up.
Maybe because all the plastic fans who booed at half time left? Strange how we seem to need that siege mentality to cause a threat at goal.
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