LC3: Chesterfield 2 West Ham United 1 (24/10/06) LC2
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- il_martello_di_genovesi
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A New Hope wrote:Didn't see the game, but FWIW here are my ratings.
Green - 9 - Top class.
Paintsil - 3 - Poor.
Ferdinand - 8 - Better than Dawson.
Gabbidon - 3 - The curse strikes again, everyone falls to it, EVERYONE.
McCartney - 9 - Top class display. MOTM
Reo-Coker - 5 - Good, better than Sunday.
Dailly - 9 - Excellent.
Mullins - 5 - The Enforcer got a bit enforced.
Reid - 8 - As good as Giggs was at 18 IMHO.
Harewood - 9 - Excellent.
Zamora - 1 - Useless.
What an utter waste of a post. You did not see the bloody game. Shut it.
SUBS:
Teddy - 0 - No suprise we lost when he came on.
Ethers - 4 - We lost because he's not that good.
Konchesky - 5 - Poo.
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sticking with Pardew...getting behind him and the team at the next match....All its going to take is 1 win....and I'm positive we can build from that and confidence will be high again.Jayluck wrote: Unfortunately you have summed it up exactly.
Where do we go from here?
One thing we can say is it wasnt a full squad...though it was still better than Chesterfield's.
There is so much pressure on the team and Pards now its worrying to how they will handle it. But im confident they'll sort this mess out. 2 seasons ago we looked to be down and out in 7th in the championship...then later we were at Cardiff for an FA Cup final...In Pards We Trust
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The thing that surprised me tonight was that Pards seemed to underestimate the footballing ability of a side like Chesterfield. I have watched three or four League One games this season, including a fantastic match between Port Vale and Doncaster, and the teams all try and pass the ball to feet and try to play progressive football. They don't just boot it up the front and fight for it (like we do ).Jayluck wrote: Unfortunately you have summed it up exactly.
Where do we go from here?
And yet we played no passers in midfield . . . and in central midfield we had two stoppers. :shock: Then, as the game progressed, both back lines were playing fairly deep which meant there was a great deal of space in midfield to pass the ball around. Chesterfield did this much better than us and deservedly won the game as a result.
I don't know who is injured at the moment for us in midfield (apart from Bowyer) but surely Yossi, Mascherano, Tevez and Matty would have had too much skill even for an honest, hardworking team like Chesterfield.
So, for me, the answer to the question . . . where do we go from here? . . . is, select midfield players who can actually pass the ball to a team mate fairly consistently . . . and if that means recalling Mark Noble early, then so be it.
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Just got back from the pub so excuse the spelling.
What a shower of *****.
Watched the match with an old skool Iron mate (we have over 60 years of suffering between us) and the feeling was:
1) we've been here before
2) what the f*** is wrong with the players?
Losing in a cup game to dogshite opposition is almost a tradition but looking like we don't care ****'s me off more than any of the players will ever know.
Reo coker must be dropped. in fact, i'll not list the players who are not worthy of wearing the shirt because it will make me to angry to post...
If we had played Green, Dailly and 9 pissed up blokes blokes from the away end, we wouldn't have done much worse.
I never thought i'd see the day when I'd call for Dailly for captain but that day has come. The bloke may not be the best footballer in the world but at least he is up for it. A real pro.
What is this long ball, hoof and hope b*llocks? We were playing CHESTERFIELD FFS! They out-classed us. THEY OUT ****ing CLASSED US.
They managed to pass to their OWN players and get some movement going. We did f*** all.
Blackburn will murder us unless this match is a turning point like Reading away 2 years ago.
Positives:
We scored
Green
Dailly
It can't get any worse
No more League cup games to distract us
That's it.
Negatives:
everything else
Apologies for the beer-induced rant.
We're gonna beat Blackburn 4-2
IRONS!
What a shower of *****.
Watched the match with an old skool Iron mate (we have over 60 years of suffering between us) and the feeling was:
1) we've been here before
2) what the f*** is wrong with the players?
Losing in a cup game to dogshite opposition is almost a tradition but looking like we don't care ****'s me off more than any of the players will ever know.
Reo coker must be dropped. in fact, i'll not list the players who are not worthy of wearing the shirt because it will make me to angry to post...
If we had played Green, Dailly and 9 pissed up blokes blokes from the away end, we wouldn't have done much worse.
I never thought i'd see the day when I'd call for Dailly for captain but that day has come. The bloke may not be the best footballer in the world but at least he is up for it. A real pro.
What is this long ball, hoof and hope b*llocks? We were playing CHESTERFIELD FFS! They out-classed us. THEY OUT ****ing CLASSED US.
They managed to pass to their OWN players and get some movement going. We did f*** all.
Blackburn will murder us unless this match is a turning point like Reading away 2 years ago.
Positives:
We scored
Green
Dailly
It can't get any worse
No more League cup games to distract us
That's it.
Negatives:
everything else
Apologies for the beer-induced rant.
We're gonna beat Blackburn 4-2
IRONS!
Apart from the bit bit about Dailly ( I thought he was worse than *****) I can't disagree with you.Toulouse_Iron wrote:Just got back from the pub so excuse the spelling.
What a shower of *****.
Watched the match with an old skool Iron mate (we have over 60 years of suffering between us) and the feeling was:
1) we've been here before
2) what the f*ck is wrong with the players?
Losing in a cup game to dogshite opposition is almost a tradition but looking like we don't care ****'s me off more than any of the players will ever know.
Reo coker must be dropped. in fact, i'll not list the players who are not worthy of wearing the shirt because it will make me to angry to post...
If we had played Green, Dailly and 9 pissed up blokes blokes from the away end, we wouldn't have done much worse.
I never thought i'd see the day when I'd call for Dailly for captain but that day has come. The bloke may not be the best footballer in the world but at least he is up for it. A real pro.
What is this long ball, hoof and hope b*llocks? We were playing CHESTERFIELD FFS! They out-classed us. THEY OUT f*cking CLASSED US.
They managed to pass to their OWN players and get some movement going. We did f*ck all.
Blackburn will murder us unless this match is a turning point like Reading away 2 years ago.
Positives:
We scored
Green
Dailly
It can't get any worse
No more League cup games to distract us
That's it.
Negatives:
everything else
Apologies for the beer-induced rant.
We're gonna beat Blackburn 4-2
IRONS!
Bring back the passion of Dicks. Now there was a man who knew what it ment. :lol:
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I suspect my thoughts on the game will hae already been stated earlier in this thread but I need to put them down as some sort of therapy b*llocks.
No spirit, no determination, no technique. Nothing. I was almost glad that we lost in the end, so that another poor performance couldn't be disguised behind a positive result. I didn't hear Pardews interview after the game but I would hope to read that he admitted to not getting his team motivated enough to end a run of poor performances and defeats against a vastly inferior opposition.
Why were we made to look a bunch of c**** tonight by a league one team? There is no excuse. We fielded a strong team. We had the added incentive of a poor league position to make up for, and a poor run of performances/results.
Ultimately, well done to Chesterfield for capitalising on West Hams poor display.
No spirit, no determination, no technique. Nothing. I was almost glad that we lost in the end, so that another poor performance couldn't be disguised behind a positive result. I didn't hear Pardews interview after the game but I would hope to read that he admitted to not getting his team motivated enough to end a run of poor performances and defeats against a vastly inferior opposition.
Why were we made to look a bunch of c**** tonight by a league one team? There is no excuse. We fielded a strong team. We had the added incentive of a poor league position to make up for, and a poor run of performances/results.
Ultimately, well done to Chesterfield for capitalising on West Hams poor display.
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Not to mention the fact that SKY were having a field day. :evil:Lufbra Iron wrote:I suspect my thoughts on the game will hae already been stated earlier in this thread but I need to put them down as some sort of therapy b*llocks.
No spirit, no determination, no technique. Nothing. I was almost glad that we lost in the end, so that another poor performance couldn't be disguised behind a positive result. I didn't hear Pardews interview after the game but I would hope to read that he admitted to not getting his team motivated enough to end a run of poor performances and defeats against a vastly inferior opposition.
Why were we made to look a bunch of c**** tonight by a league one team? There is no excuse. We fielded a strong team. We had the added incentive of a poor league position to make up for, and a poor run of performances/results.
Ultimately, well done to Chesterfield for capitalising on West Hams poor display.
Re: Chesterfield v West Ham match thread
Funny you should mention that, I was saying the same about my glue sniffing habit...Jerh wrote:Looks like I picked a bad day to give up drinkin' !!!
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didn't even wanna speak last night...Relocated Hammer wrote:Just got back, somebody please tell me that looked better on telly....
Iv'e seen some ***** watching West Ham, seen us lose by 4, 5,6,7 goals on our travels but last night was one of the worst I have ever experienced...
Everything about it was cack, no fight, no heart, no support (which is worrying), no positives whatsoever....
this was definately up there with the St Valentines Day massacre :cry:
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Heads were down all through the game. Only Chesterfields players were smiling (and even before they equalised).
Confidence is at an all time low. There seems to be a complete lack of spark, zest, esprit or whatever else you want to call it. Whilst Z-man did have a couple of chances, some will always be missed and there just were not enough chances.
The amount of corners Chesterfield had compared to us spoke volumes.
Our midfield seemed non-existent. Our passing, apart from brief glimpses, was long and inaccurate and straight back down our throats came Chesterfield.
Pards did so well with the team last year. It is utterly amazing how far the team spirit has fallen. For all his team talks and psycho stuff, there are few positives. I am not calling for his head as I cannot believe it is his fault, yet, but where they go from here is a mystery.
Oh, one other point. Bowyer. Is he some sort of Jonah? We shat out big time last time he came, doing so again. Our workhorse midfield were doing it, then he popped up and it stopped doing it. Upset the balance? This was before the Argies came as well.
Confidence is at an all time low. There seems to be a complete lack of spark, zest, esprit or whatever else you want to call it. Whilst Z-man did have a couple of chances, some will always be missed and there just were not enough chances.
The amount of corners Chesterfield had compared to us spoke volumes.
Our midfield seemed non-existent. Our passing, apart from brief glimpses, was long and inaccurate and straight back down our throats came Chesterfield.
Pards did so well with the team last year. It is utterly amazing how far the team spirit has fallen. For all his team talks and psycho stuff, there are few positives. I am not calling for his head as I cannot believe it is his fault, yet, but where they go from here is a mystery.
Oh, one other point. Bowyer. Is he some sort of Jonah? We shat out big time last time he came, doing so again. Our workhorse midfield were doing it, then he popped up and it stopped doing it. Upset the balance? This was before the Argies came as well.