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I think I missed from the timeline that on 18 June, the SPL publish their fixtures for 2012/13. Rangers(CVA) or Rangers(newco) will need to be up and running and OKed by the SPL by then (unless the SPL defers publication of the fixtures).
This is one of the alleged reasons that make the odds of Rangers not playing at all next season - very high!
It wasn't just Kerimoglu, he signed 5+ players from Rangers to clubs he was then managing!
From Wiki about Boumsong:
I read the article and it suggested that there were improprieties with Souness but they never found any further documentation to back that up. Or did I read it wrong ??
Rangers have published their Proposal for a Company Voluntary Arrangement (CVA):
Highlights - Charles Green will loan Rangers £8.5m (which they have to pay back) that will cover running expenses for the next month or so and pay off the £3m fees that Duff & Phelps have incurred as administrators, and the £2.5m in additional legal/professional fees they've racked up. If they make sure that everyone else that owes them money pays up and they sell some players for £2m, then there's just under £5m to be distributed to the creditors. CVA won't happen.
So he's proposing to buy Rangers with their own money and not his!
That would be for the documents that they *lost*
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If Channel 4′s reports are correct and Rangers directors were engaging in activities such as document shredding, it will mean that ill-will to the club will stretch back further than just the arrival of Craig Whyte. If Rangers have been involved in a decade of persistent lying to the government, it could make a deal difficult.
Rangers have won their appeal to the transfer ban, and it goes back to the SFA now.
Grant Russell @STVGrant
Scottish FA has power only to fine, suspend, eject from Scottish Cup, expel Rangers from game or terminate membership.
Grant Russell @STVGrant
FIFA said just before verdict passed that Scottish FA will be told to take action so club "withdraws its request from the ordinary courts".
Grant Russell @STVGrant
FIFA undoubtedly will also look at fact court ruled Scottish FA did not give Rangers the means to appeal to CAS. Both in bother.
Seems like whatever happens, there's always 1 consistent: The SFA ****ing up in one way or another.
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Rangers have won their challenge to the transfer ban (BBC)
As if anyone will do business with them, unless it's the full amount up front.
It could be a hollow victory for Rangers, as the SFA may now look again at the sanctions available to them
Calling their bluff...cant see SFA expelling Rangers.
I think the SFA hoped the tax case would ruin Rangers by now or that they would not have hung on so long so that they wouldnt have to make a decision.
Now Rangers have a quandary - today's Court of Session ruling means that they can take it back to the SFA and force them to reconsider - but Rangers don't have to do anything. If they don't take it back the ban stands. If they do take it back then the SFA panel could ignore the Court of Session and let the ban stand, impose suspension or termination - for the offence almost as serious as 'match-fixing' - but with Cambell Ogilvie (former Rangers director and recipient of EBT payments) in charge of the SFA that's unlikely.
What might happen if they do take it back to the SFA who revise their decision (thereby acknowledging the Court of Session jurisdiction), is that FIFA/UEFA step in as Rangers have taken action against the SFA in a civil court which is against FIFA/UEFA rules - similar to what Sion did against the Swiss FA - and the refusal of the Swiss FA to expel Sion for taking civil action meant that UEFA ruled that no Swiss club could play in Europe including the national side. The Swiss FA eventually backed down and expelled Sion. This could be what Rangers want - as they can't play in Europe (through not submitting accounts by the required date), they don't want anyone else to play in Europe either.
Although I do think UEFA may be a bit preoccupied at the moment with Italy and Ukraine!
The judge upheld Rangers case on two count: (a) that the sanction of a ban on registration was not available to the disciplinary tribunal (the fact that Rangers brought the game into disrepute was not doubted, nor was the fine), and (b) the Court of Sessions did have jurisdiction as the SFA rules contained no clear provision for going to the Court of Arbitration for Sport (a massive cock-up on the part of the SFA). So the case is referred back to the appeals tribunal to decide on a sanction that the disciplinary tribunal *can* levy, which are: (i) a maximum fine of £100,000; (ii) ejection from the Scottish Cup, (iii) a suspension, (iv) expulsion from participation in the game and/or (v) termination of SFA membership.
Meanwhile FIFA is quoted as saying: "At the time of writing we have not received any communication from the Scottish FA. In such a case, FIFA will ask the Member Association to take action so that the club withdraws its request from the ordinary courts. As a general rule, in case a club is seeking redress in front of ordinary court, as mentioned above the Member Association shall take direct action in order to safeguard the principle laid down in art. 64 par. 2 of FIFA Statutes, which shall be, in view of art. 64 par. 3 incorporated in the Member Associations’ Statutes. FIFA will closely monitor the situation so that the issue is resolved as fast as possible."
It's going to end in tears.
The stuff about Sion is not all correct. They were challenging a FIFA-imposed transfer embargo and the Swiss FA's refusal to accept the registration of players they signed during said embargo. The first court found for Sion (restraint of trade). Eventually, after FIFA's escalation, the Swiss FA imposed a massive points deduction (-36), the courts threw out Sion's case on appeal, and the club looked set to be relegated. However, in early spring, massive fraud by the Xamax owner was proven leading to Xamax having its 1st division licence withdrawn and a de facto relegation from last place. Sion, now 2nd bottom, won the relegation/promotion play-off 3-1 on aggregate and thus remain in the top division.
I won't be surprised if the SFA find something else to fine Rangers for, be done with it and then blame FIFA for not being able to punish Rangers fully.
Because there is no way that they will impose the heaviest punishment, eg. throwing Rangers out.
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