Redknapp has left Spurs! (non-WHU)

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Re: Redknapp has left Spurs! (non-WHU)

Postby rare as rockinghorse shat on Thu Jun 21, 2012 1:16 pm

Luke

Realistically, what are the chances of Klinsmann?

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Re: Redknapp has left Spurs! (non-WHU)

Postby Believer on Thu Jun 21, 2012 1:18 pm

Luke (THFC) wrote: I personally think that Modric will end up at Real Madrid for about £30 to £35 million.

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How long has he left on his contract ? I'd say that you're about £5m out there - don't see you getting any more than late twenties for him. Not sure how true it is but a mate of mine said that the only money being spent on transfers this season is on money brought in from sales.

Adebayor for say £10m
Vertonghen same

That is £20m gone already. You got about £5m for Krancjaer so presuming you are going to give the new manager about £20m, you will need to sell Modric and one other fringe player eg Corluka.

As I say this could all be a load of rubbish as my mate has been wrong in the past..
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Re: Redknapp has left Spurs! (non-WHU)

Postby fmgod on Thu Jun 21, 2012 1:29 pm

Adebayor will not be joining Spurs unless he takes at least a 50% pay cut, as well as that I'm not sure i would touch him, he loses interest at everyclub.
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Re: Redknapp has left Spurs! (non-WHU)

Postby Rocketron on Thu Jun 21, 2012 1:37 pm

I think Madrid are open to offers for both Kaka and Sahin.

You know better than posting things like that on this forum, Luke. :wink:
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Re: Redknapp has left Spurs! (non-WHU)

Postby Luke (THFC) on Thu Jun 21, 2012 2:10 pm

Believer wrote:How long has he left on his contract ? I'd say that you're about £5m out there - don't see you getting any more than late twenties for him. Not sure how true it is but a mate of mine said that the only money being spent on transfers this season is on money brought in from sales.

Adebayor for say £10m
Vertonghen same

That is £20m gone
already. You got about £5m for Krancjaer so presuming you are going to give the new manager about £20m, you will need to sell Modric and one other fringe player eg Corluka.

As I say this could all be a load of rubbish as my mate has been wrong in the past..


Modric has 4 years left on his contract as of this Summer.

Your mate probably has as much idea as I do over our transfer budget this Summer. My guess (and it's a guess) is that we'll have about £10 to £15 million plus whatever comes in from sales.

We sold Pavyluchenko late in the Jan window for about £9 million and only brought in Saha on loan.... So much of the fund will come from that sale. The wages were also trimmed back quite significantly last season with many high earners being shed (Crouch, Palacios, Keane, Hutton, Pavyluchenko, Woodgate also Ledley King now as well with Corluka and Pienaar likely to be imminent departures).

As you say Kranjcar was sold (for almost £6 million - with another 2 million being possible). Corluka looks like going to Russia for a similar amount (let's say £5 million) and I think Pienaar will be off to Everton for about £4 to £5 million. Then Dos Santos and Bassong will go for about £6 million for the pair. Bentley and Jenas may well also be allowed to go (but will fetch only a couple of million for the pair)

I would therefore say we're looking at a total transfer budget of between £30 and £40 million depending how sucessful we are in selling the above players - that will then be increased if there are players that want to leave to get more first team football (Rose, Naughton, Defoe for example may request transfers) or if one of the crown jewels is sold (as I say probably Modric).

Assuming nobody is sold other than those we want to lose (Kranjcar, Corluka, Pienaar, Dos Santos, Bassong, Jenas, Bentley) we currently need 2 strikers, 1 centre half, a young keeper and perhaps another player that can play out wide. If Modric goes then we also need a central midfield playmaker on top of that.

My guesses are: Vertonghen, Remy, Adebayor (I think they'll end up doing the deal somehow) and Butland.

If Modric goes then I guess maybe somebody like Dembele would be a target.

rare as rockinghorse shat wrote:Luke

Realistically, what are the chances of Klinsmann?

If you say none/zero/ziltch/slim or any other use of words that indicate a suggestion that I'll lose money, then I'll be reporting you to the moderators for banning.


Hmmm - You haven't left me much wriggle room.... How about if I say that I think Klinsmann is very likely to end up Spurs manager.... but that day is not imminent. He is settled in the US at the moment and I think it will be after the Brazil World Cup at the earliest before he seeks a new challenge.
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Re: Redknapp has left Spurs! (non-WHU)

Postby prophet:marginal on Thu Jun 21, 2012 2:13 pm

Luke (THFC) wrote:
Funny enough I don't think the absolute priority at the moment is for a manager to equal (or better) Redknapp's league finishes. Instead I think the aim of the owners is for us to be in a good position in a 3 to 4 years time when we're in our new stadium. The owners want a manager who has a Worldwide scouting and contacts network, can develop a footballing structure and vision right down to the youth teams and put the new £40 million training facility opening this Summer to the best use.


Careful, you'd have us thinking some of you weren't delusional with reasoning like that!
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Re: Redknapp has left Spurs! (non-WHU)

Postby rare as rockinghorse shat on Thu Jun 21, 2012 2:13 pm

He said he is settled, out of respect for his current role/employers, but if Tottenham come knocking...?
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Re: Redknapp has left Spurs! (non-WHU)

Postby Luke (THFC) on Thu Jun 21, 2012 2:16 pm

fmgod wrote:Adebayor will not be joining Spurs unless he takes at least a 50% pay cut, as well as that I'm not sure i would touch him, he loses interest at everyclub.

I could hardly fault him last season to be honest. He misses more than his share of chances but still scores and creates goals at a good rate and is worth his place in the team with his excellent work rate. The only times that I felt he was poor last season was in both games against Arsenal (it was like he was walking on eggshells after his behaviour against them when he was playing for Man City) and also in one of the FA Cup games (think it was away at Watford) when he looked as though he thought he shouldn't be having to play against them.

I would happily have him back at Tottenham next season.
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Re: Redknapp has left Spurs! (non-WHU)

Postby Yea Why Not on Thu Jun 21, 2012 2:37 pm

Makes a nice change to see a Tottenham fan talking sense. Much better than the usual deluded bull**** you get from them
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Re: Redknapp has left Spurs! (non-WHU)

Postby fmgod on Thu Jun 21, 2012 3:04 pm

Luke (THFC) wrote:I would happily have him back at Tottenham next season.


How many times though has he one good season somewhere then gone off the boil not just on the pitch but off it, very good player on his day but a bit mental.
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Re: Redknapp has left Spurs! (non-WHU)

Postby Believer on Thu Jun 21, 2012 3:51 pm

Luke (THFC) wrote:
Modric Saha, Pavyluchenko, Ledley King Corluka Pienaar Kranjcar Dos Santos Bassong Bentley Rose, Naughton, Defoe .


Thanks for the response Luke.

Just looking at the list of players above is amazing how large your wage bill must be or have been last season. This is one of the reasons that Redknapp got or gets his reputation cos regardless of how many players are on your wage bill it was always bare bones and we need new players. Stripping that lot down alone must save you upwards of £500k a week !

No wonder Levy was keen to loan out the likes of Jenas, Bentley, etc
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Re: Redknapp has left Spurs! (non-WHU)

Postby Hampshire Hammer on Fri Jun 22, 2012 9:46 am

Luke (THFC) wrote:
Funny enough I don't think the absolute priority at the moment is for a manager to equal (or better) Redknapp's league finishes. Instead I think the aim of the owners is for us to be in a good position in a 3 to 4 years time when we're in our new stadium. The owners want a manager who has a Worldwide scouting and contacts network, can develop a footballing structure and vision right down to the youth teams and put the new £40 million training facility opening this Summer to the best use.


Sort of how I read it, follow the Arsenal model if you will; aim to keep there or there abouts whilst building the new stadium then, with the increased revenue, build a more expensive and (hopefully) better team. Leaving aside who it is, it is good to see a club planning in this way. I guess the key is how the finances work on the new stadium, Arsenal seem to have done well on the external (to the stadium) building work though, as usual, there seem to have been some nasty things gone on with pushing out existing tenants and owners. Levy and co seem to have played a blinder in wriggling their way out of commitments to spend money in the area that would see no increase in income to spurs, for example social housing and tube improvements.
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Re: Redknapp has left Spurs! (non-WHU)

Postby QuintonNimoy on Fri Jun 22, 2012 10:05 am

Luke (THFC) wrote:Harry's mad spending is actually something of a myth.... I think his NET spend was £12 million a season (and that's not including the Kranjcar transfer fee just received).

Harry spent a lot of money in the initial Janaury window when we were in the relegation zone (about £40 million) but after that he was surprisingly frugal really. Jol and (especially) Ramos were actually given more to spend (Bent, Bentley, Modric and Pavyluchenko were all signed for higher transfer fees than any of Redknapp's buys)

It's a myth at Spurs, because he never got himself into a position of control over the budget. A lot of people assume he will have wrecked the place but he was kept firmly in line. At clubs where he and his cohort have managed to get control you can see the damage. At West Ham he did half the job, allegedly while uncle Terry was on holiday IIRC.
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Re: Redknapp has left Spurs! (non-WHU)

Postby A wap bam Boogers on Mon Jun 25, 2012 1:53 pm

After listening to the Roy Hodgson press conference can I say how glad I was not to hear "boys done triffic" or "down to the bare bones" as if the England appointment had gone different way.
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Re: Redknapp has left Spurs! (non-WHU)

Postby RM6 on Sat Jun 30, 2012 12:57 pm

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Re: Redknapp has left Spurs! (non-WHU)

Postby warp on Sat Jun 30, 2012 1:46 pm



comment to the article:
"I bet Harry knew the winning numbers for the lottery too, but didn't know how to fill in the ticket"
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Re: Redknapp has left Spurs! (non-WHU)

Postby beckton on Sat Jun 30, 2012 2:06 pm

The amount of times in recent weeks I've read or seen him say he's left behind a title winning side.

No pressure on his successor then. Twat.
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Re: Redknapp has left Spurs! (non-WHU)

Postby HomertonSpur on Sat Jun 30, 2012 5:19 pm

beckton wrote:The amount of times in recent weeks I've read or seen him say he's left behind a title winning side.

No pressure on his successor then. Twat.


Totally agree.

His latest gems.
HARRY REDKNAPP has told Andre Villas-Boas: I’ve left you a squad good enough to win the title - ie, the one that came 4th after ballsing up 3rd.

“In the last few years, we’ve come from nowhere to be a top-four team" - To Harry, nowhere means 5th twice under Jol (funny how Spurs have now become 'we').

Barcelona were said to be interested but Spurs broke the bank to give him £115,000 a week - how the **** would Harry know how much Bale is on now?

Redknapp oversaw the Welshman’s development at White Hart Lane - the same Redknapp that said Bale's best position is LB & only played him on the wing due to injuries (to replace Modric who was moved into the middle).

Harry, please hurry up & find another managerial job so i dont have to listen to you talking **** about my club anymore.
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Re: Redknapp has left Spurs! (non-WHU)

Postby window74 on Sat Jun 30, 2012 9:37 pm

HomertonSpur wrote:The amount of times in recent weeks I've read or seen him say he's left behind a title winning side.

No pressure on his successor then. Twat.

Totally agree.

His latest gems.
HARRY REDKNAPP has told Andre Villas-Boas: I’ve left you a squad good enough to win the title - ie, the one that came 4th after ballsing up 3rd.

“In the last few years, we’ve come from nowhere to be a top-four team" - To Harry, nowhere means 5th twice under Jol (funny how Spurs have now become 'we').

Barcelona were said to be interested but Spurs broke the bank to give him £115,000 a week - how the **** would Harry know how much Bale is on now?

Redknapp oversaw the Welshman’s development at White Hart Lane - the same Redknapp that said Bale's best position is LB & only played him on the wing due to injuries (to replace Modric who was moved into the middle).

Harry, please hurry up & find another managerial job so i dont have to listen to you talking **** about my club anymore.


Just a small part of why the man is despised by so many fans of clubs he has managed in the past!
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Re: Redknapp has left Spurs! (non-WHU)

Postby WestHamIFC on Sun Jul 01, 2012 9:19 am

We can but hope... :lol:

http://www.express.co.uk/posts/view/330063/

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