Sir Bobby Moore 40 years too late but nice article

[cockney hammer]

i nicked this from the who website thanks to Sir Alf



Sir Bobby Moore 40 years too late but nice article
http://soccernet.espn.go.com/news/story ... 26?cc=5901

Shame it took someone at Fulham to recommend it

Campbell: Moore deserves knighthoodSeptember 5, 2012
EmailPrintBy Harry Harris, Football Correspondent
Bobby Moore is deserving of a posthumous knighthood, according to Bobby Campbell.
Campbell, who was Moore's manager at Fulham, claims in the soon-to-be-released book England Centurions that the defender should be rewarded with title Sir Bobby.

Even though a statue of the World Cup-winning captain has pride of place at the new Wembley stadium, Campbell believes Moore hasn't received the recognition he is due.

In the book, which details Moore's life and honours his 100 caps, Campbell argues: "I don't believe that he received the accolade and credit that he deserved. He should have been moved straight to the FA when he finished playing in just the same way the German FA embraced the Kaiser [Franz Beckenbauer].

"He should have been knighted. Tell me this, if any player captained England to a World Cup triumph in the future, do you think they would be knighted? I am sure that they would. So why wasn't Bobby knighted? In fact, it's not too late. He should be knighted posthumously."

The vastly experienced Campbell, who also had George Best under his command during his managerial career, said: "I have managed some formidable players in my time, but Bobby Moore was the best professional I ever managed.

"To be Bobby Moore's manager and mentor for the time that I managed at Fulham, when he was a player there, I can safely say that he was the best professional I ever managed. If you told him there was a game in Outer Mongolia on Christmas Eve, kick off two o'clock, he would be there at one o'clock boots in hand. He was never late.

"Everything he ever did was immaculate, whether that was in training or in a match - it didn't matter to him. That's the way he was both on and off the field."

Moore, who died of cancer in 1993, was well known for his polite nature, even when he was alleged to have stolen items from a jeweller's in Bogota, Colombia, prior to the 1970 World Cup in Mexico. The defender was detained by police for four days, and was eventually cleared of any wrong doing.

"His manner and his character were top class and he represented West Ham and England as the ultimate pro. He even wiped his hand before shaking the Queen's hand before he received the World Cup trophy and he dealt with the so called 'stealing of the watch' with such dignity.

"As for reaching 100 caps, that in itself is such a wonderful milestone and anyone who makes it to 100 caps deserves to have done so, and that includes David Beckham, another great player. Let's face it David Beckham hasn't done football any harm at all."

• England Centurions is published on September 11, launched at Wembley Stadium before the England/Ukraine World Cup qualifier. £1 from every book sold will be donated to the Bobby Moore foundation. Bobby's widow, Stephanie Moore, has a message in the book about bowel cancer awareness.

[Up the Junction]

Story written for ESPN by Harry Harris. The book's author?

Harry Harris...

That aside, of course Bobby should have been knighted years ago.

[snail]

Without a doubt, is a disgrace how he was treated by both the FA and West Ham really. Ok so there are now statues and a stand named after him but almost seems like an afterthought.

[DeanoDeep]

He should be knighted, end of story, rose tinted specs on the shelf.

What I want to know is can you be knighted after death... at the moment I don't think you can though I would welcome being stood corrected if it mean't there is a possibility of it.

If there isn't, then why have I read on sky news this morning that this year 'Britain's Olympic and Paralympic Heroes are to be given a seperate honours list', as under present rules the number of honours to sportsmen and women is capped. 'To avoid potential embarassment and reflect the scale of the british athletes' achievements, PM David Cameron has apparently decided to place honours arising from the games outside the usual system.

Fair enough, those athletes did outstanding and are being recognised, so why not Bobby

[KierZ]

you cannot be posthumously knighted.
also if they change it, how far back do you go.
lord nelson wasnt knighted. would he be for example?

i think by starting this it could lead to everyone petitioning for someone they admire to be knighted

[sendô]

He probably should have been knighted while he was alive. He only died 27 years after the World Cup win after all.

I disagree with posthumous knighthoods though, as kierz points out above, how far back do you go? What does it achieve?

[Muddy]

Should've been knighted.

If John Terry led England to world cup glory (stop laughing you at the back) you can bet your right knacker that the twat would probably be knighted, sickening thought really.

[ManInTheIronsMask.]

Taking the claret and blue specs off for a minute,it's a shame in a way that he didn't join Derby in '72 when Cloughie wanted him. A championship medal or two and a chance to play in the european cup was the least he deserved. His career shouldn't have fizzled out the way it did. They wanted Brooking as well but I draw the line at that.

[clawhammer]

In my opnion there is no real doubt that he would have been knighted if he had not died so tragically young.
There is no such thing as a posthumous knighthood so this is a totally sterile argument.

Neither Bobby or Geoff have a statue outside Wembley and, to me, this is an even bigger honour. I had the pleasure of seeing Bobby play and there is no question he deserved more honours. Give money to his Cancer charity if you want his memory honoured.

[Larry]

Had Bobby still been alive today he would almost certainly of now been Knighted, and it would now be a meaningless gesture to give him one now .

[Jonjos Mum]

Jonjo wrote a letter to The Queen over a year ago.........asking for Bobby to be made a sir.............I have a photo of the letter. Does anyone know how to upload an image??

[cockney hammer]

Jonjo wrote a letter to The Queen over a year ago.........asking for Bobby to be made a sir.............I have a photo of the letter. Does anyone know how to upload an image??

go to tiny pic.up load the photo click the link and paste it in to this thread

http://tinypic.com/

[James P]

Bobby doesn't need additional letters before, after or anywhere else in his name in order to command the respect he deserves. His achievements and the testimonies of those who crossed his path do that more than any official "honour" could.

[smuts]

Without a doubt, is a disgrace how he was treated by both the FA and West Ham really. Ok so there are now statues and a stand named after him but almost seems like an afterthought.

The club are also keen in splashing his name and image over everything like new team shirt adverts.

Is it in his honour or something dreamed up by marketing?

Should have been knighted long before he died and not had to spend his last years writing columns for the Sport as Football abandoned him.

[vietnammer]

The club are also keen in splashing his name and image over everything like new team shirt adverts.

You do get the feeling it's all a bit removed from the man himself

[Jonjos Mum]

Jonjo wrote to The Palace over a year ago. He wanted Bobby to be knighted. This is the response he received.

[sicknote]

have to agree with the protocol on this one,the queen didn't say no, and i'm not sure you should have put a private letter up on here from her majesty

postumous awards are for VC's and the like in acts of heroism and sacrifice to save and help others, and to those who know and admire bobby moore, a knighthood 20 years after his passing away ,to me would add nothing to his memory or achievements, the BMcancer research fund in his name, is a suitable tribute to him

[Sweeney Bod]

With respect, only the government can recommend a honour, and as her Magesty"s office have said, under the present guidelines, posthumous awards are not given outside gallantry awards.

I respect you, and your son, but please change the title of this thread as it does a disservice to our Monarch, (and no doubt cause a pointless Republican whine session).

The Honour system has changed, and most get an award for tying their shoelaces. Our thoughts and your Trust are bigger tributes that some titular award

[EastHammer]

The best memorial to Bobby is to remember him , its deeds not awards that people remember , and you know Bobby will live forever and is Sir Bobby in our eyes (and we are the ones that matter).

[Doc H Ball]

The Queen couldn't say yes.

Seems ironic that a gong can only be given posthumously to someone in the military/police for 'Gallantry' when Bobby epitomises any definition of the word.

The argument, of course, is that we ask those eligible to put their life on the line like nobody else. Can't argue with that, but there are rare others who should be knighted in recognition of their outstanding contribution to this country in other ways.

Time to change the law I think and not just because of (Sir) Bobby.

Jonjo =