Olympic Stadium picture thread

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Re: Olympic Stadium picture thread

Postby Pop Robson on Thu Apr 26, 2012 11:02 am

They'll need to have some sort of covering outside, if the kiosks remain there for the future. Might be Ok for a few weeks in the Summer, but what about when it's hammering it down with rain or just bloody freezing. It's right out in the open too !!
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Re: Olympic Stadium picture thread

Postby adie on Thu Apr 26, 2012 11:27 am

the kiosks are for people with tickets to the stadium only, the turnstiles are on the bridges leading onto the island, there are five bridges. Once you are on the island you can go in and out of the stadium at will, the idea is that people won't want to sit in a stadium all day. If you're a local like me and you're thinking you'd like to visit the olympic park while the games is on you are gonna be disappointed cos only people with tickets will be allowed in, all to do with security. Some of the canal and towpath will be closed also for security reasons. If you are lucky enough to get a ticket you won't be allowed to bring a pack lunch, seriously all food has to be purchased from the olympic park, they are building the largest MacDonalds in the world in the park, not sure what the kiosks will be selling but all the local cafes have to close for a the whole time the games are on.
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Re: Olympic Stadium picture thread

Postby gavrosh on Thu Apr 26, 2012 12:23 pm

Actually Adie, that aint true, there will be day passes to the Olympic Park.

http://www.thisislondon.co.uk/olympics/ ... 57507.html
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Re: Olympic Stadium picture thread

Postby Iron-worx on Thu Apr 26, 2012 12:38 pm

gavrosh wrote:Actually Adie, that aint true, there will be day passes to the Olympic Park.

http://www.thisislondon.co.uk/olympics/ ... 57507.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;


Makes sense, can't see them missing a trick like that, somebody buying a day pass just to see the park not only pays for their ticket but buys just as many burgers and cokes as somebody coming to watch an event.....
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Re: Olympic Stadium picture thread

Postby gavrosh on Thu Apr 26, 2012 12:39 pm

Just saw this on skyscrapercity.com. Some other people I know monitor it, so they will attest to this guy 'DarJoLe' being very much in the know about what's going on with the Olympic project:

"Is "being easy to knock down/rebuild" such a great selling point?

Yes, because if it had been a 80,000 seater dedicated athletics stadium incapable of any flexibility it would have become a white elephant.

Whilst we haven't seen West Ham's plans, the fact the stadium is a giant Meccano seat capable of changing its structure quickly and easily using as minimal amount of steel as possible certainly means it is a sustainable form of building."
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Re: Olympic Stadium picture thread

Postby Iron-worx on Thu Apr 26, 2012 12:42 pm

adie wrote:all the local cafes have to close for a the whole time the games are on.


Are you sure about that ?

A Google search brings nothing up and it doesn't sound very plausible.
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Re: Olympic Stadium picture thread

Postby Iron-worx on Thu Apr 26, 2012 12:56 pm

gavrosh wrote:Just saw this on skyscrapercity.com. Some other people I know monitor it, so they will attest to this guy 'DarJoLe' being very much in the know about what's going on with the Olympic project:

"Is "being easy to knock down/rebuild" such a great selling point?

Yes, because if it had been a 80,000 seater dedicated athletics stadium incapable of any flexibility it would have become a white elephant.

Whilst we haven't seen West Ham's plans, the fact the stadium is a giant Meccano seat capable of changing its structure quickly and easily using as minimal amount of steel as possible certainly means it is a sustainable form of building."


That makes sense too. If it were a solid structure then you'd need kango hammers to do any mods, and even then only within whats not structural. But if sections are removable as they plausibly are given that the top tier was going to be removed and used elsewhere, then its plausible that you can take sections out and replace them with custom built sections to your requirement.
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Re: Olympic Stadium picture thread

Postby Pop Robson on Thu Apr 26, 2012 1:51 pm

So the upper tier is a bolted together structure, as it's meant to be temporary with no services attached which is old news.

But what about the lower tier ?

Concrete bowl with all services attached !
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Re: Olympic Stadium picture thread

Postby WHURS on Thu Apr 26, 2012 2:13 pm

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This Pic shows what the lower is attached to.........

Nothing attached to the lower teir, it has no structural strength for the upper, all it is is lowered in concrete step's. The whole lower tier could be lifted out in a couple of weeks.
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Re: Olympic Stadium picture thread

Postby Pop Robson on Thu Apr 26, 2012 2:40 pm

WHURS wrote:This Pic shows what the lower is attached to.........

Nothing attached to the lower teir, it has no structural strength for the upper, all it is is lowered in concrete step's. The whole lower tier could be lifted out in a couple of weeks.


:lol: £500M, done up like a kipper
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Re: Olympic Stadium picture thread

Postby WHURS on Thu Apr 26, 2012 2:41 pm

Shouldn't be too hard to re-work these structures


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Re: Olympic Stadium picture thread

Postby Mr_Andersonn on Thu Apr 26, 2012 3:20 pm

Surely most people, pro and anti the stadium move should be aware of the structure and how how this stadium has been put together!

It amazes me how people make all these assumptions and judgements yet know very little about the stadium itself!

Do your homework boys and girls and know your facts, visit skyscraper city and view Stratford Stadium 2012 and Olympic Stadium 2012. It's all there for you!
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Re: Olympic Stadium picture thread

Postby Iron-worx on Thu Apr 26, 2012 4:09 pm

I'm not at all sure what the last few posts are supposed to be proving but it is clear from the photos that the area under the lower tier seating is absolutely enormous....

That lends perfectly to the mechanism of have massive walkways so as people move from A to B unrestricted and fast, meaning that amenities don't need to be as close as they do in stadiums without massive walkways where people move from A to B slower....

Which will be proven either to work or to have problems by whatever is experienced during the games, the games are the ideal test....

If proven to work with no problems great, leave well alone....

If there are problems then there's ample room to move amenities inside....

There doesn't look to be much scope for there to be problems with amenities to me, it may well work perfectly as is, and if not then there's plenty of scope to alter things.
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Re: Olympic Stadium picture thread

Postby gavrosh on Thu Apr 26, 2012 4:40 pm

The lower tier is for changing facilities and the like. It also has a miniature train running along it if i remember rightly..

Anyway the point wasnt about where we can fit burger stalls, its about the potential for dramatically reconfiguring the stadium to better suit football.
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Re: Olympic Stadium picture thread

Postby Iron-worx on Thu Apr 26, 2012 5:36 pm

gavrosh wrote:The lower tier is for changing facilities and the like. It also has a miniature train running along it if i remember rightly..

Anyway the point wasnt about where we can fit burger stalls, its about the potential for dramatically reconfiguring the stadium to better suit football.


I doubt very much whether the amenities will need to be moved, the idea of making transitways large enough to enable people to get from A to B easily and quickly will likely mean that they're OK right where they are....

They're clearly thought to be suitable where they are for the Olympics with 80'000 attending plus more arriving and departing....

I also doubt that the stadium needs reconfiguring dramatically, not to the extent of any great dismantling of it...

The authorities desperately want to move it on, they're likely to be flexible both with making it suitable for the tenant to rent and with rental terms....

It's amazing whats possible with a positive attitude, and what's not possible with a negative attitude.
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Re: Olympic Stadium picture thread

Postby Francoisvander or else on Thu Apr 26, 2012 6:07 pm

gavrosh wrote:Yes, honestly, youre clutching at straws with regards to the extra-stadium parts of it. From what i can see having these areas outside of the main stadium is better than having them sandwiched down some tiny corridor - its great for freedom of movement. Of course, in the depths of midwinter it'll make for a cold couple of minutes while youre buying your bovril before you get back in under the main canopy, but at other times of year i think the space in the 'island' will be greatly appreciated.


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Re: Olympic Stadium picture thread

Postby IronMaiden123 on Thu Apr 26, 2012 9:53 pm

Iron-worx wrote:It's amazing whats possible with a positive attitude, and what's not possible with a negative attitude.


It's true "Iron-worx" anything is possible if you have unlimited funds and ignore the realities.
With a free-hand and blank cheque the only sensible thing would be to pull the OS down and build a football ground.
Because of the cost, and constraints posed by athletics use and retention of the athletics track everything that is possible, with or without a positive attitude, amounts to shuffling the deckchairs on the Titanic.
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Re: Olympic Stadium picture thread

Postby Whitters on Thu Apr 26, 2012 10:01 pm

Apologies if already mentioned, but there is a 'Megastructures' programme on the OS on National Geographic Channel on Thursday May 3rd at 9pm. Could be interesting.
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Re: Olympic Stadium picture thread

Postby Pop Robson on Thu Apr 26, 2012 10:19 pm

Whitters wrote:Apologies if already mentioned, but there is a 'Megastructures' programme on the OS on National Geographic Channel on Thursday May 3rd at 9pm. Could be interesting.


:thup: Cheers day before I get to go inside the athletics stadium. Hope it's not raining as I'll get wet queuing for my cuppa
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Re: Olympic Stadium picture thread

Postby Pop Robson on Thu Apr 26, 2012 10:24 pm

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