David Gold on Talksport today

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Upgrading Upton Park whilst a nice dream will only work if we sort out the road and underground networks.
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Luke (THFC) wrote:Not true. Joe Lewis is very much a silent partner in ENIC's running of the club.

Only once has money from ENIC gone directly into Spurs (a £15 million convertable bond underwritten by ENIC that allowed them to increase the level of their shareholding while paying way under market rate for the shares).

I think you'll find that your current owners have ploughed more of their personal wealth into West Ham than Joe Lewis has into Spurs.
Where's Sperz money coming from then? Most teams averaging 36k attendance could not afford their Reserve Team.

I agree he is 'silent' - he leaves his nephew (Levy) to do the talking. But someone is bankrolling that club..
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Matt of iron wrote:Upgrading Upton Park whilst a nice dream will only work if we sort out the road and underground networks.
Exactly.

Couldn't give a toss whether or not the Council have approved the East Stand - that won't solve the transport problems.

More to the point 35k capacity increased to 45k = worse transport problems!
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WestHamIFC wrote:Where's Sperz money coming from then? But someone is bankrolling that club..
They have £72m of debt .

More than we currently have .
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the pink palermo wrote:The get out of jail card I expect the club to play now in terms of the OS will be a club organised poll asking if we want to move to Stratford with a running track .

This of course will be overwhelmingly rejected ...........and then the board will say " we had to listen to our fans ".

Can see it coming a mile off .
Without doubt.

I was not impressed with some of the things Gold has come out with , regrettabley so becuase i like the old goat as his hearts in the right place.
Using Bolton as an example of what to aspire to , a club with over £100 million of debt that has been spending way over it means for over a decade and is now paying the price. Clearly Allardyce has charmed the owners .Mind you, Grant convinced them he was the right man for the job I better it wasn't hard work for Big Sam.
The whole olympic stadium discussion was ridiculous, clearly we're at a tipping point where we're either pull out or accept the conditions it comes with. He couldn't even say if he's pro the stadium anymore, an incredible you turn when you think we've been branding the stadium on our kid shirts as well as all the comments made pubically by Brady , Allardyce and the Daves.
Nows the time to pull out and allow the athletics stadium to stay just that. Theyll have to lose face on it but it's the right thing to do.

As TPP has said the fans consultation will now be used to pull out of this complete shambles.

The long ball comments ("Allardyce would play it all game if it gets a win")confirmed for anyone doubting by now that BFS does not rely on this tactic. The barcelona comments was a rather pathetic attempt to defend this style of play IMO.

But probably the worse of them all was the "We are not successful because we're at the Boleyn" comments. Poor stuff Mr Gold. It's a 35,000+ stadium that even in the championship retains 30,000+ fans week in week out. We've average over £17 million per season from matchdays over the last five years. Our lack of success is down total mismanagement, a terrible transfer policy and a catalogue of financial catastrophes like getting sued by the vultures and that iclandic fraudster having to hand us over to the banks.

Very poor form from Gold today.
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the pink palermo wrote:Well wobbly on the Olympic Stadium .

Every time I hear him speak on the topic it's going cooler and cooler .

I think the 99 year lease to Athletics has scuppered the plan they had .

He did mention " we have to do a consultative process with our fans" - which is an implicit acknowledgment that to date they have not .
The biggest sign yet that the OS is looking very shaky for us. :raver:
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Brady is working on Brand Brady - she's staked a huge amount of personal credability on the OS, and failure to land it would be embarassing for her .

The get out of jail card I expect the club to play now in terms of the OS will be a club organised poll asking if we want to move to Stratford with a running track .

This of course will be overwhelmingly rejected ...........and then the board will say " we had to listen to our fans ".

Can see it coming a mile off .
Make no mistake, Gold, Brady and Co. remain uniquely committed to the OS.

... Gold has timed this very, very well. (and it has Brady’s fingerprints all over it)

SPURS COSTING THE TAXPAYER
There was some concern that the best way forward for us as a club was to publicly pull out of the running for the stadium the moment that the initial process was scuppered. That would have put the spotlight of blame for failure firmly on THFC (and quite rightfully so).

However, the comments in committee yesterday from Baroness Ford have identified the culprits for all to see, desctibing THFC's actions as "reprehensible" and "absolutely disgraceful". She named and shamed Daniel Levy publicly.

BACK TO THE OS
We are very much being counted upon to rescue the Olympic Stadium - the OPLC is committed to both a mixed use stadium,
and reducing the burden on the public purse.

However, on Nov 17 London is looking to secure the World Athletics Championships in 2017.
The fear is that continued uncertainty over the future of the OS would count against us this time.
Therefore, much has been made of how the track must come first before football, but the reality is that track meets are not going to supercede football given that it will be the anchor.

UK Athletics Chairman is on record that London is not interested in the 2019 games.
'From London's perspective we are in no position to accept 2019 if we were offered it.

… Now Gold has set out his stall. He’ll take the stadium - but on his (our) terms.

well done indeed.
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Hammersk I've rebutted your post in the Olympic forum . :thup:
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After hearing Gold talk today it appears our future may not be at the boleyn or the OS.He certainly wasnt pro OS like before when questioned about the possibility of moving there. and seems almost certain they want away from the boleyn in the future.So where will we end up playing ? will they reconsider the west ham site by parcel force that was looked at awhile back ? is it possible to build a new stadium on the olympic park close to the OS ?

He did say us the fans will be consulted now on where we may move to.And after hearing there is a 99 year lease saying the running track at the OS has to remain in place that virtually writes us out of moving there.

What possible other sites are there where we could realistically move to ?
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hammersk wrote: Now Gold has set out his stall. He’ll take the stadium - but on his (our) terms.

well done indeed.
Are you suggesting stuttering and stammering his way through a simple question like "do you still want to move into the olympic stadium?" without being able to give a straight answer was some kind of masterstroke by gold?

Well done indeed? ! :lol: did you listen to the interview?
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w6hammer wrote:After hearing Gold talk today it appears our future may not be at the boleyn or the OS.He certainly wasnt pro OS like before when questioned about the possibility of moving there. and seems almost certain they want away from the boleyn in the future.So where will we end up playing ? will they reconsider the west ham site by parcel force that was looked at awhile back ? is it possible to build a new stadium on the olympic park close to the OS ?

He did say us the fans will be consulted now on where we may move to.And after hearing there is a 99 year lease saying the running track at the OS has to remain in place that virtually writes us out of moving there.

What possible other sites are there where we could realistically move to ?

Doubt if we'd be welcome to build on the Olympic site. How about Beckton, down by Gallions Reach? Don't know if the transport arrangements would be that good though.
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What transport problem? I've never had a problem getting here, not even when upton park station was shut for the best part of a season. There's enough tubes, trains and buses in london to be able to get to the Boleyn. Now getting out of upton park when the tube is tits up is a completely different story...
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Planning Report from 2006

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18 Upton Park station: Additional survey work undertaken in response to requests by Newham Council and TfL demonstrated that there is already an unacceptable amount of queuing to access Upton Park station at the end of a match. This takes approximately one hour to clear and has a particular impact on regular and potential station users and pedestrians as well as supporters. It is predicted that the east stand expansion will result in an additional 1365 journeys by Underground for a capacity match, thus exacerbating the situation. The constraints are within the station rather than on trains. Designs have been drawn up by London Underground to improve circulation within the ticket hall area at Upton Park station. These will enable crowds to be better managed and will enable passengers to pass through the ticket hall area more quickly.

19 TfL believes that the predicted increase in usage of the station can only be mitigated through a section 106 contribution to fully fund a proposed station ticket hall improvement scheme and understands that officers from Newham Council share this view. The more ambitious scheme originally favoured is unlikely to be affordable due to cost increases and there are no other sources of funding that could be used to bridge any funding gap. However, a more modest scheme to alleviate the impact of additional congestion and improve crowd control could be brought forward. This would require a contribution in the region of £1 million from the football club as part of the Section 106 agreement.

Conclusion
32 The rebuilding of West Ham’s east stand is welcomed in terms of the London Plan’s policies for sports facilities; urban design and access. A sustainability statement is required.
33 The transport implications of the development are acceptable subject to the resolution of various matters which will need to be safeguarded either by condition or in a Section 106 agreement.
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Muddy wrote:..getting out of upton park when the tube is tits up is a completely different story...
Er, so there is a Transport problem then... :think:
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WestHamIFC wrote: Er, so there is a Transport problem then... :think:
Never happens at arsenal or spurs ?

or chelsea ?
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Pop Robson wrote: Never happens at arsenal or spurs ?
Yes it does happen at Spurs. That's why they wanted to leave Harringay for the OS!!!


Is that the same Arsenal with 5 tube stations and 4 train stations within a mile of the Emirates?
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WestHamIFC wrote: Er, so there is a Transport problem then... :think:
Ain't really that much of a problem though, all you have to do is walk a bit and hop on the bus.
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WestHamIFC wrote:
Yes it does happen at Spurs. That's why they wanted to leave Harringay for the OS!!!


Is that the same Arsenal with 5 tube stations and 4 train stations within a mile of the Emirates?
plenty of queuing at for trains at arsenal, so much they leave 15mins before the end :?
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WestHamIFC wrote: Is that the same Arsenal with 5 tube stations and 4 train stations within a mile of the Emirates?
We have 3 within easy walking distance then Barking and Stratford near by

Too much of a big deal is made of transport to UP. If you don't fancy waiting 10-15 minutes for a train then walk to one of the other 2 tube stations and if you don't want to sit in traffic then park near the A13

It's as simple as that
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Yea Why Not wrote: We have 3 within easy walking distance then Barking and Stratford near by

Too much of a big deal is made of transport to UP. If you don't fancy waiting 10-15 minutes for a train then walk to one of the other 2 tube stations
Is the correct answer. Or just hop on the bus. Where ever you get thousands upon thousands of people there's going to be ques, no matter how many transport links there are.
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