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Re: New bid submitted.

Postby The Old Mile End on Mon Mar 26, 2012 10:24 am

eastsider wrote:As for all this crap about our spiritual home, its a **** hole, always has been always will be.... As a ten year old one of my my first trips to the Bolyen Ground was the 1966 League Cup Final against West Brom... All I remember is the mans coat in front of me because I could not see a ferking thing.


But something made you come back didn’t it? And whatever that something was, it stayed with you and here you are, 46 years on, sharing it with others.

East London wasn’t much of an area, the Boleyn wasn’t much of a ground. West Ham weren’t much of a team. But all three added together was addictive.

Whatever it was that made you come back, you will not find it inside the OS.

The majority of the people from the area have moved away. The club has changed with the times. The ground has changed. But it is still The Boleyn and it holds the fragments of all three together. Once that goes – so will the soul. :crest:
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Re: New bid submitted.

Postby eastsider on Mon Mar 26, 2012 1:54 pm

[quote="The Old Mile End"][quote="eastsider"]As for all this crap about our spiritual home, its a **** hole, always has been always will be.... As a ten year old one of my my first trips to the Bolyen Ground was the 1966 League Cup Final against West Brom... All I remember is the mans coat in front of me because I could not see a ferking thing.

But something made you come back didn’t it? And whatever that something was, it stayed with you and here you are, 46 years on, sharing it with others.

East London wasn’t much of an area, the Boleyn wasn’t much of a ground. weren’t much of a team. But all three added together was addictive.

Whatever it was that made you come back, you will not find it inside the OS.

The majority of the people from the area have moved away. The club has changed with the times. The ground has changed. But it is still The Boleyn and it holds the fragments of all three together. Once that goes – so will the soul.

You make good points very well and is probably the best made argument for not moving!!

I was quoting another poster who I generally agreed with. I did not make the actual comment that the Boleyn is a ****hole!! my first game was a year later, I do like the place...
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Re: New bid submitted.

Postby Pop Robson on Mon Mar 26, 2012 2:38 pm

Pop Robson wrote:The OPLC "The stadium will become the new national centre for athletics "



[quote="Hammer110"]Nothing like selective quoting Pop, what was said was;
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Just doing what the club do :wink:


Anyone remember the moving in date was it August 2014 ?
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Re: New bid submitted.

Postby The Old Mile End on Mon Mar 26, 2012 2:39 pm

eastsider wrote:I was quoting another poster who I generally agreed with. I did not make the actual comment that the Boleyn is a ****hole!! my first game was a year later, I do like the place...


My apologies ES - I misread your post/quotes.
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Re: New bid submitted.

Postby IronMaiden123 on Mon Mar 26, 2012 3:06 pm

Hammer110 wrote:And your qualifications for making such statements, I take it you are a structural engineer/ architect or something of that ilk or is that just your opinion based on....? Far too many people are making sweeping assumptions about what is possible in a field they know little about and being right will be more a case of guesswork then any real knowledge.

As for the bit in bold, why? What point would there be in moving the club to a stadium that they know is totally unsuitable for football and according to many deliberately alienating the majority of fans, the hardcore who are there through thick and thin, sounds like a really crap business model to me.


Yes, of course.
Examine the structural plans. Read the original architectural explanations and critiques of the building. The costings. You will see that the stadium was deliberately designed not to be adaptable for football. The commisioners of the stadium design did not want football to rear its ugly head at a later date. It wouldn't have but for a change of political power so now it is too late without ripping the stadium up and starting again.

I have no idea what the Board's business model for the OS is, but if it is anything like their business plan for the Championship I would have little faith in it. My honest opinion is that they are hanging in there hoping for something to turn up. If it doesn't they will withdraw interest in the OS at the last moment.
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Re: New bid submitted.

Postby the pink palermo on Mon Mar 26, 2012 3:54 pm

Pop Robson wrote:Anyone remember the moving in date was it August 2014 ?


Yes, Pop ,

Bit early to pitch your tent to ensure you are first in the queue though . :lol:
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Re: New bid submitted.

Postby Pop Robson on Mon Mar 26, 2012 5:26 pm

the pink palermo wrote:
Yes, Pop ,

Bit early to pitch your tent to ensure you are first in the queue though . :lol:


Cheers, so 2 more seasons at the BG if the move goes ahead.

In that case I'll keep using my Barclays 0% ST card until then.
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Re: New bid submitted.

Postby Rocketron on Mon Mar 26, 2012 7:57 pm

IronMaiden123 wrote:
Yes, of course.
Examine the structural plans. Read the original architectural explanations and critiques of the building. The costings. You will see that the stadium was deliberately designed not to be adaptable for football. The commisioners of the stadium design did not want to rear its ugly head at a later date. It wouldn't have but for a change of political power so now it is too late without ripping the stadium up and starting again.

I have no idea what the Board's business model for the OS is, but if it is anything like their business plan for the Championship I would have little faith in it. My honest opinion is that they are hanging in there hoping for something to turn up. If it doesn't they will withdraw interest in the OS at the last moment.

I think this is the most important post that we have read, not only on this thread, but all the threads relating to the Olympic Stadium.
Read and weep.
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Re: New bid submitted.

Postby Iron-worx on Mon Mar 26, 2012 9:30 pm

IronMaiden123 wrote:Examine the structural plans. Read the original architectural explanations and critiques of the building. The costings. You will see that the stadium was deliberately designed not to be adaptable for football.


Your claim so your onus to prove it, not anybody elses to study plans or read explanations and critiques.....

It sounds mighty unlikely that anybody would actually go out of their way incurring extra effort and costs to design a stadium not to be adaptable for football.
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Re: New bid submitted.

Postby MEM on Mon Mar 26, 2012 9:55 pm

Rocketron wrote:
Yes, of course.
Examine the structural plans. Read the original architectural explanations and critiques of the building. The costings. You will see that the stadium was deliberately designed not to be adaptable for football. The commisioners of the stadium design did not want to rear its ugly head at a later date. It wouldn't have but for a change of political power so now it is too late without ripping the stadium up and starting again.

I have no idea what the Board's business model for the OS is, but if it is anything like their business plan for the Championship I would have little faith in it. My honest opinion is that they are hanging in there hoping for something to turn up. If it doesn't they will withdraw interest in the OS at the last moment.

I think this is the most important post that we have read, not only on this thread, but all the threads relating to the Olympic Stadium.
Read and weep.



Don't agree with that at all the stadium, though not designed for football, was designed in the main to be dismantled. As I 110 and others have stated this could now be its biggest asset ~ if (a big if ) we have the funds to re-design and re-build it. I have put plenty of examples on this site where Populous and others have completely re-designed athletics stadium's in the US for grid iron by digging down (many next to rivers so lets not go there) etc. As for political power well the government are really up **** creek now with only four bidders, one of whom only want it for a couple of summer gigs, one for "office accommodation" and one for schools and the social well being of their borough. And yes the Dave's might be hoping for the best possible outcome and if it does not come to that then walk away.But as the board and custodians of WHUFC it is their duty to explore all avenues that could strengthen and secure West Ham's future.


As for their Championship business plan can't see they have done much wrong myself (apart from the fact that the appointment of Grant got us here in the first place). Appointed a manager, of the few that were available, who most thought would be good enough to get us up first time, albeit by not playing the "West Ham" way. Kept as many of the squad as they could, of those who wanted to stay. Brought in some decent players at very short notice in the summer, some of whom then unfortunately suffered long term injuries. Invested a lot of their own money this season to keep us solvent in line with their "business plan". In January brought in a few players whom the majority on here thought were the best we could have got at the time and would really help us push on. Its not their fault we are where we are this season, stuttering along in the top three. If we had won the last four games we have drawn, as we should have, we would be well clear. They don't pick the team and they don't play on the pitch. Anyway any one would think we have blown it, two win's in the next two games and we are back in the driving seat. Anything is achievable if you have a positive mental attitude.

Just find the whole lets have a go at Dave, Dave and Karen a bit tedious. Out of them the Pratts, Cearns, Brown or Icelanders I know who I prefer.
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Re: New bid submitted.

Postby Claretdave on Wed Mar 28, 2012 10:19 am

Jeremy Hunt (minister for sport and good friend of James Naughtie) has just said there have Bern four bids.

Not the Spuds or the little club up the road. Who else?
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Re: New bid submitted.

Postby HammerMan2004 on Wed Mar 28, 2012 2:13 pm

University of East London and Essex County Cricket Club have put in a joint bid.
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Re: New bid submitted.

Postby Claretdave on Wed Mar 28, 2012 4:30 pm

HammerMan2004 wrote:University of East London and Essex County Cricket Club have put in a joint bid.


I would be interested to know what they will do with 56,000 spare seats.......
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Re: New bid submitted.

Postby brownout on Wed Mar 28, 2012 5:16 pm

HammerMan2004 wrote:University of East London and Essex County Cricket Club have put in a joint bid.


Bloody big lecture hall
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Re: New bid submitted.

Postby ForeverHammers on Wed Mar 28, 2012 6:25 pm

Claretdave wrote:Jeremy Hunt (minister for sport and good friend of James Naughtie) has just said there have Bern four bids.

Not the Spuds or the little club up the road. Who else?


West Ham, Live Nation, UEL and one other. I hear Major League Baseball want to play games at the OS, so it is possibly them.
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Re: New bid submitted.

Postby Hammer110 on Wed Mar 28, 2012 8:46 pm

Interesting, if the four are us, live nation, University of East London & Essex CC and possibly Newham, then we are back where started as all these were involved with our original joint bid.
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Re: New bid submitted.

Postby the bubble hammer on Wed Mar 28, 2012 9:49 pm

I dont think its a surprise at all. I posted ages ago just after the OPLC pulled the plug on us that i thought it was done just to get the spuds and the O's off our backs. im pretty sure as a club, if something hadnt been agreed backhandedly with the oplc before they pulled the plug we would have kicked up a right royal fuss. As it was we took it nice and elequently and rolled over to have our belly rubbed, meanwhile spuds and hearn have dissapeared into the sunset. How uncanny that all four that bid were all together in a joint bid with us meaning without a doubt we can all work together.
Someone has already said on twitter (think it was adzman) that its a done deal
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Re: New bid submitted.

Postby Pop Robson on Thu Mar 29, 2012 1:01 pm

MLB eyes London Olympic stadium for baseball games
Major League Baseball officials have been watching the NBA, NFL and NHL play games in Europe. Now, stadiums in London and the Netherlands could provide the chance for baseball to follow suit.

The biggest obstacle for MLB in Europe has been to find a facility with the right dimensions and seating capacity, and London's Olympic Stadium is under consideration.

"That (London) stadium, the way it's built, actually is big enough for a baseball game," Clive Russell of MLB International told The Associated Press on Wednesday. "It's not perfect, but it has some real potential."

West Ham soccer club is among the bidders vying to take over the stadium after the Olympics, and Russell said MLB is also talking to the games' legacy committee.

The London stadium will seat 80,000 spectators for the Olympics. After the games, it will be downsized to a 60,000-capacity multipurpose venue that includes track and field.

Russell said MLB has measured the London stadium.

"It's tight and there would be some struggles with sight-lines," he said.
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Re: New bid submitted.

Postby Johnny Byrne's Boots on Thu Mar 29, 2012 3:55 pm

Baseball. Five minutes of action crammed into three hours.
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Re: New bid submitted.

Postby brownout on Thu Mar 29, 2012 4:39 pm

Johnny Byrne's Boots wrote:Baseball. Five minutes of action crammed into three hours.


Sounds familiar - does Fat Sam manage that too?
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