|All you need to know about West Ham United FC's potential move to Stratford.
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I constantly check here but never see anything but speculation as to what might happen. I used to be for the move but now against it unless I know there will be massive changes to the stadium which I cant see happening.
At some point there must be some architects drawings?
Depends on if the OPLC are willing to spend a hell of a lot more money on the OS, otherwise no major changes.
Back in July 2010, from BBC News
Ms Brady said it would cost the club between £150m and £180m to convert the venue by extending the roof, creating a pitch, turnstiles, toilets and space for corporate hospitality.
Err I think you will find that neither we or the government do not yet know what the final plan will look like. Between now and 23rd May? the government will be trying to negotiate the best deal for the taxpayer and perhaps more importantly to save face for themselves. This will look at several conversion scenarios trying to get the best possible deal for the taxpayer while making sure that the bidding process does not suffer the same fate as the last one through legal threat and judicial reviews. Once they agree with the bidders whats on the table they will then perhaps build RoI models on three possible scenarios; strip back to 25,000 and use for athletics, cricket and local use, bare bones 60,000 seater for football, athletics etc and a fully convertible football stadium with permanent roof, retractable seating and high class corporate facilities. which is what I am sure we will be pressing for.
Once they gave agreed on the usage and scope for the stadium they will then need to look at the conversion costs against what the bidders are likely to pay-for-use and then work out the best case (or more likely the best worst case) rental scenario to justify a Return on Investment / Total Cost of Ownership for the money they have already spent and what else they will need to spend on the conversion and future running costs.
With only four bidders all seemingly wanting the stadium for different reasons and different seasons `this should be fairly straightforward in terms of the bids but the politics around it all, especially additional conversion costs, make it a potential minefield. And this is the crux of why we have not heard anything about the end design. Take as an example both West Ham and the University of London have bid for office accommodation on the lower levels. The government will now be negotiating with both on rental rates vs conversion costs and will be pitching one against the other in commercial confidence. That is why the whole bidding process will have to go through several iterations of negotiating, agreement and sign-off with all potential bidders and various government levels step-by-step until the final stadium plans can be agreed and believe me this takes a lot of time.
However as I said a few months back and David Gold said today we might actually be better off under this scenario than the original lease deal. It all depends on how hard the Dave's can negotiate and how far the government will go in spending on a suitable conversion. Without West Ham as an anchor tenant I cannot see how they can justify keeping it as a temporary 80,000 seater stadium for one or two medium size athletics meetings, a few games of cricket and one or two pop concerts a year. Remember its temporary because the whole upper tier girder structure is bolted together and only has a 25 year life as has the roof. To increase its life the whole girder systems needs welding together to prolong its life along with a more permanent roof. No West Ham no cost justification and no spend.
I was in Westside again tonight for something to eat and could not help think this is The Best Site for a "Football Stadium" on the Planet lets just hope its suitable for football otherwise we should walk away and leave the government with another white elephant:<)
Adam Jackson @Adzman89
Clungewhu. I have seen the plans for the olympic stadium and its awsome. Retractable seating in the lower and upper levels totaly cover the track. Retractable roof. All 4 stands named after legends moore hurst peters brooking. Seats claret and blue.You will be amazed its fantastic. Cost 150 mil.
Again it's from twitter, so take from it what you will.
Not just from Twitter its from Adzman who is fairly decent with his info.
He sits a few rows back from me too and is very approachable
See this is why you need to have faith. £150m conversion costs too.
Replace Peters with Bonds and it's a goodun.
I know he's one of our World Cup winners but he does more hospitality work for Tottenham than he does for us .He used to be on their board.
does anyone know how retractable seating is possible in the upper levels?
Seems an engineering nightmare to me,but to be honest I know duck all abouth this type of thing.
Adzman is West Ham and does have a sauce, I am a bit worried if clunge may have given out a bit too much info here though, the club are under strict non-dilvulgence clauses, so it is quite easy for the powers that be can trace this leak straight back to the club.
I would imagine the 150M cost is certainly something that should not be discussed before the deadline, more that the actual plans for retractable seating and roof.
I can see a **** storm erupting over this
I wondered whether the KUMB news story this morning was as a result of clunge's comments and trying to do some damage-limitation:
West Ham United have written to the London Legacy Development Corporation requesting that the board be able to reveal further details of their plans for the Olympic Stadium. .........
That was on the OS 4 days ago.
http://www.whufc.com/articles/20120408/ ... 84_2727416
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