Now Hearn wants to ground share

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Iron Mark wrote:Scrolling across SSN -

"Leyton Orient's application for judicial review into Olympic stadium has been thrown out"
Now there's a surprise, you need a reason that stacks up to be granted a judicial review that amounts to more than they won't share with me...

Won't make one iota of difference to Orient who will draw exactly the same crowd as they otherwise would...

He was after somewhere else to go, anywhere will do even if it is absurdly too large for a crowd of 5'000, so as he could sell the ground.
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Better forward these details to Bazza.

http://www.dalailama.com/office/contact
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Mike420 wrote:Better forward these details to Bazza.

http://www.dalailama.com/office/contact
and these.....

http://www.samaritans.org/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

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Believer wrote: http://www.samaritans.org/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

:wink:

Thats cruel ...............





..............what have the samaritans done to inflict Hearn on them!
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Hammer110 wrote:

Thats cruel ...............





..............what have the samaritans done to inflict Hearn on them!
Ha ha..... In all seriousness though, hopefully this is now the end of his mission. I feel sorry for the O's supporters. I spoke to an Orient supporting cabbie about this the other day and he made some valid points about the whole scenario but he did agree that....

a) The Legacy mob should have listened to and accepted our proposals years ago about pumping money in before it was even built

b)Hearn has mugged off the supporters. regarding OS, wasting money (club money not his !) on this episode. He did say that he implies that it's his money but deep down, most know it isn't

c) Hearn has had plenty of opportunities over the years to form a bond with West Ham but has chosen to "get in bed" with Levy & Spurs

d) Leyton Orient will never go out of business - in fact he reckons that they will in actual fact gain additional support from WHU fans who are determined not to go to OS

e) The sooner Hearn ups and leaves the happier that the majority of O's supporters will be. A lot of their supporters have apparently stopped going cos of him ! How ironic is that ??
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Barry H£arn spent £300.00 on legal fees!!?? no wonder he goes on and on & on &on..... see under photo....

http://www.guardian.co.uk/sport/2013/ap ... eview-case" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false; :crest:
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I actually fear for Orient as a club and for their fans now, not because of West Ham, but because this seems to have become personal now for Hearn, he'll continue on his vendetta through the courts, suing the Premier League, going to the European Court of Justice, whatever, all because of his wounded pride and his inability to accept that he's lost. He's chosen the wrong tactics, backed the wrong horse to start with (Spurs) and left it too long when he should have started building bridges with West Ham instead of burning them all down.

Something he's also done early with regard to the LLDC, the government and the Mayor of London.
He's got no friends left in this anymore. He should give up, he won't.

Maybe his son should sit him down, put his hand on his shoulder and say "It's over Dad, give it a rest!"
I doubt it'll happen though...
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Agree hamburg ~ from memory did Spurs not lose the original written application but later win at the hearing in front of a judge?

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-22319452" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Leyton Orient's written application for judicial review into the tenancy of the Olympic Stadium in Stratford, east London, has been rejected by a court.

A spokesman for the east London club said it will now have to decide whether to ask for a hearing in front of a judge.

West Ham was declared as the anchor tenants for the stadium in March and will pay £2m a year in rent.

The club is expected to move into it from August 2016.

Leyton Orient has previously expressed fears that West Ham moving to the Olympic Stadium would affect numbers attending matches at the Orient's ground nearby.
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from the guardian:
Launching a scheme to give away 1,500 season tickets to children and students, he said: "We will continue to fight the decision to deny us the opportunity to move to the Olympic Stadium but we will fight it in our own backyard and will not be squeezed out."
b*stard is trying to put us out of business and we're not even moved yet :twisted:
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So what next?

Oral appeal
Premier League
EU
Nato
UN
Dalai Lama
Pope
Kim Jong Un
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Yes Mike, all of those. Plus Hearn will go on "Dragon's Den" presenting his investment opportunity of asking for 750.000 pounds (needed for legal fees) for a 10% share in his endeavour to sue his way into a groundshare of the OS with Leyton Orient. Should be a good episode.
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HamburgHammer wrote:Yes Mike, all of those. Plus Hearn will go on "Dragon's Den" presenting his investment opportunity of asking for 750.000 pounds (needed for legal fees) for a 10% share in his endeavour to sue his way into a groundshare of the OS with Leyton Orient. Should be a good episode.
Haha yep. I'll be surprised if he doesn't do the first 3. The rest are possible :wink: .
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I would imagine his legal advisers rub their hands with glee every time he walks in the office.

The fact is his argument this time is pure nonsense, the bidding process was based on giving out tenancies on a best fit basis, which on the surface two football clubs playing alternate weeks seems to meet, but it then virtually precludes any use of the stadium with the seating retracted for half the year, and largely any weekend use for other events, meaning two football clubs are poor fit for other users. And from a business point of view an 80,000 sellout concert on a weekend when we are playing away will bring in more income than than Orient could do in a whole season.
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Judicial Review is quite a lengthy process:

1. You apply for permission to proceed with case by submitting papers to a High Court judge to consider. Basically, you have to convince the judge you have an arguable case.

2. If the judge doesn't give permission, you can renew your application, by asking for an oral hearing before a judge. This renewal application has to be made within 7 days of the written permission application being refused.

3. If you don't get permission at the oral hearing that is the end of the matter, unless you think the court has got the law wrong (eg not taking into consideration a previous, relevant case), and you appeal the refusal of permission to the Court of Appeal.

4. If you get permission, either on the papers or at the oral hearing, the matter then goes for a full trial where the case is argued out.

Hearn has got to the end of stage 1 and not got permission on the papers. My bet is he will renew the application so there is an oral permission hearing. It's very straightforward to do and won't involve that much extra cost, given what he has spent so far. I think he will only give up if he loses the oral hearing. It's hard to get to the Court of Appeal, the grounds are pretty limited and then the costs will really start racking up. We will know within the next 7 days.

Hope this helps!
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No big surprise with written application for JR being refused. Oral application next so it's back to the lawyers next week. @leytonorientfc #Imachancerc*nt

No surprise there then.
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The thing is, we all mock Hearn - and long may we continue to do so - but he does seem to be following a certain blueprint. By anything sensible, natural or just he should of course have no chance, yet he plugs on regardless, taking advantage of a legal system that seemingly doesn't recognise the words 'final decision'. Reminds me somewhat of those tinpot League One northern slags who extorted millions out of us against all sanity simply by plodding on. Whether consciously or not, Hearn seems to be following their plan to the letter...
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kaybee15, only this time we have different owners. Neither West Ham nor the LLDC/Boris Johnson will agree to some sort of independent tribunal Hearn may appeal to. He will have to make his luck in a court of law, where he's not very likely to succeed.
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Hammer110 wrote:I would imagine his legal advisers rub their hands with glee every time he walks in the office.

The fact is his argument this time is pure nonsense
To be honest, I still think that his argument last time round was pure nonsense.
From what I can see, we've actually benefitted even more so from the state under this latest agreement. So, thanks for that Barry and Daniel.
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Yeah Rock, you can really imagine Hearn and Levy going "FFS, please no, it's gone all wrong. We didn't want THAT to happen when we started the judicial review and the tapping up of phones.We didn't want West Ham in there at all. Now they are not only in, they are in with a cracker of a deal and they get a roof and retractable seating as well. WTF have we done ? How did we cock this up so badly?"
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HamburgHammer wrote:Yeah Rock, you can really iamgine Hearn and Levy going "FFS, please no, it's gone all wrong. We didn't want THAT to happen when we started the judicial review and the tapping up of phones.We didn't want West Ham in there at all. Now they are not only in, they are in with a cracker of a deal and they get a roof and retractable seating as well. WTF have we done ? How did we cock this up so badly?"
All very true and the spying thing and a bit of state aid with their new stadium seems to have shut Levy up. But don't forget that the actual cause of the original plan being abandoned was the original architect lodging a complaint with the EU over state aid. It may have collapsed anyway of course.

Either way, we appear to be in a much better position now because of it
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