Just out of curiosity, when are you thinking of starting the big Jack Collison debate? He has been well off form all season, carrying on from his poor form a the end of the last. Why can you find it in yourself to support Collison but not Noble?Tel The Hammer wrote:
Agreed.
I was pleased to see Noble actually playing like a Premier League standard footballer yesterday.
He usually puts about 2-5 decent performances in each season lately, so let's hope he can maintain a steady run of form.
Our midfield looked much more like a unit yesterday with Noble finally pulling his weight.
The big Mark Noble debate...
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Collison and Noble both played well against Chelsea and I look forward to them and Kovac giving Parker a bit more support for the rest of the season.
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Collison hasn't been been on top form lately, but he's been a long way away from "off form" as you put it.SenzaPaura wrote:Just out of curiosity, when are you thinking of starting the big Jack Collison debate? He has been well off form all season, carrying on from his poor form a the end of the last.
I mean, only recently...
Goals against Hull and Burnley.
Two assists at Sunderland.
An assist at Bolton.
Won us our penalty yesterday.
Absolutely shocking form if you ask me.
You also mention Collison's poor form at the end of last season. Have you managed to forget he had just come back from a very serious injury? Or would that make your slight against Collison look a bit silly?
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Not forgetting that he's still pretty young and his dad died at the start of the season.
The fact he played in that Millwall game makes him a complete West Ham hero in my books.
The fact he played in that Millwall game makes him a complete West Ham hero in my books.
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Erm......
Collison = *****
Behrami = *****
Parker = Decent
Noble = *****/Good
Kovacs = Very unlucky (***** ref call)
Collison = *****
Behrami = *****
Parker = Decent
Noble = *****/Good
Kovacs = Very unlucky (***** ref call)
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I swear he didnt pass to a West Ham player in the first half :lol:Cuenca 'ammer wrote:Erm......
Collison = s***e
Behrami = s***e
Parker = Decent
Noble = s***e/Good
Kovacs = Very unlucky (s***e ref call)
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Goes without saying the Noble was poor first half but was much improved second half especially when he had to drop in to the Kovac screening role. Was much more careful with possession and made some good blocks in and around our box.
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Parker aside he was probably our best midfielder, especially in the second half.I8CHAVS wrote:He was pretty w*** on Sunday
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I8CHAVS wrote:He was pretty w*** on Sunday
Fionn Kiely wrote:Parker aside he was probably our best midfielder, especially in the second half.
:lol: :lol:
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I8CHAVS wrote:He was pretty w*** on Sunday
Are you bumming him? He was ****.Fionn Kiely wrote:Parker aside he was probably our best midfielder, especially in the second half.
In the first half if he wasnt passing to a Villa player he was running into them
He also wore green boots
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...is the key issue. Noble is just not that effective in the final third. He's much better at keeping things ticking over in midfield.hongkonghammer wrote:Goes without saying the Noble was poor first half but was much improved second half especially when he had to drop in to the Kovac screening role. Was much more careful with possession and made some good blocks in and around our box.
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Haha, yeah, that rest really helped Noble, did'nt it :shock:
He was gash. So he looked better when moved into the DM role, after Kovac went off. That does'nt say much for a supposed AM/CM player.
Watching us break with Noble on the ball was like watching the game go into slow motion. It was'nt until Diamanti came on that our breaks were actually that, fast moving and catching Villa players out. With Noble, you watch him take the ball sideways, by which time most Villa players were back in position.
He was gash. So he looked better when moved into the DM role, after Kovac went off. That does'nt say much for a supposed AM/CM player.
Watching us break with Noble on the ball was like watching the game go into slow motion. It was'nt until Diamanti came on that our breaks were actually that, fast moving and catching Villa players out. With Noble, you watch him take the ball sideways, by which time most Villa players were back in position.
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He was terrible on Sunday. Collison wasn't much better. Seriously inconsistent the pair of them.
I can forgive Collison as he is still relatively inexperienced, but isnt't Noble our player with most appearances?
I can forgive Collison as he is still relatively inexperienced, but isnt't Noble our player with most appearances?
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Thought Collison, Noble and Behrami were all poor yesterday. Parker did ok and Kovac is looking better.
Noble's lack of progression is becoming a bit of a concern. Don't think it helps that he seems to be pushed out wide though. We desperately need some wingers and then pick from Noble, Collison, Behram, Parker and Kovac for the 2 or 3 central midfield positions (depending on whether we go 4-4-2 or 4-3-3).
Noble's lack of progression is becoming a bit of a concern. Don't think it helps that he seems to be pushed out wide though. We desperately need some wingers and then pick from Noble, Collison, Behram, Parker and Kovac for the 2 or 3 central midfield positions (depending on whether we go 4-4-2 or 4-3-3).
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What everyone plays rubbish and we gain a draw away, perhaps they should play rubbish every week then ?
A couple of errors each a game and nothing critical is perfectly usual and acceptable, if you keep looking for failure then that is all you will see.
A couple of errors each a game and nothing critical is perfectly usual and acceptable, if you keep looking for failure then that is all you will see.
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dapablo wrote:What everyone plays rubbish and we gain a draw away, perhaps they should play rubbish every week then ?
A couple of errors each a game and nothing critical is perfectly usual and acceptable, if you keep looking for failure then that is all you will see.
I don't look for failure, i just see a gash player, playing gash, week in week out. He's had a rest(which many thought might be the problem), but still looks terrible against decent opposition. He's slow, his passing is bad and he can't dribble for toffee. A couple of times yesterday he tried to(slowly) take it round a player and just got robbed.
I'm getting a lot more positive about the team, but on that performance yesterday, i don't see Noble moving forward(more like sideways :lol: )
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I'm not looking for faults, nor using this thread to pick on the player, as I have already aired my views prior to this.
His first half performance yesterday was amongst the poorest I've seen from a 1st team regular in the top flight in a long time.
His first half performance yesterday was amongst the poorest I've seen from a 1st team regular in the top flight in a long time.