The big Mark Noble debate...

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Re: The big Mark Noble debate...

Postby Tel The Hammer on Wed Jan 20, 2010 6:31 pm

Cuenca 'ammer wrote:Tel

you forgot the smiley......


I did?
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Re: The big Mark Noble debate...

Postby FDiMcA on Wed Jan 20, 2010 6:32 pm

Tel The Hammer wrote:
I bet you can't wait for Parker to pick up a slight knock so you can slate him again, can you 'Ouston?

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I have a right itchy trigger finger re Parker.
If anyone slags him off, Ill be right behind them with the :thup: :thup: :thup:
cant help it sorry
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Re: The big Mark Noble debate...

Postby rare as rockinghorse shat on Wed Jan 20, 2010 6:32 pm

^^ :lol:
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Re: The big Mark Noble debate...

Postby FDiMcA on Wed Jan 20, 2010 6:37 pm

can we have a poll.

I know where Noble should play

Some people use technical terms to describe his position, and reference a player who might play there, the next person has a different understanding of teh described position.

So if an option of "where should Noble play" were "holding midfielder" not everyone would agree with what that means.

Is it easier to list ex-hammers who we are all familiar with and you vote for which one best describes by analogy Nobles best roll.

A) Brooking
B) Martin Allen
C) Lomas
D) Lampard Jnr
E) Moncur
F) Paul Scholes
G) On the bench
H) For someone else

that sort of thing


that sort of thing

:think:

sorry everyone, see you later
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Re: The big Mark Noble debate...

Postby rare as rockinghorse shat on Wed Jan 20, 2010 6:39 pm

He should play like Guti
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Re: The big Mark Noble debate...

Postby SenzaPaura on Wed Jan 20, 2010 6:40 pm

rare as rockinghorse shat wrote:
He's never, at any point in his West Ham career, been our best passer or most creative player.

For a start, both Nigel Quashie and Jack Collison are better passers of a football and one of them doesn't even play.
Stats don't lie. They don't tell the whole truth but they certainly knock any suggestion that he gives the ball away on head (well they did until recently). And in regards to creativity, show me a central midfielder in our squad whose passing is as progressive as Noble's when he is on form. Parker, as UTJ mentioned last season when he posted the KUMB goal of the season contenders had a key role in nearly all of our best goals but he also wastes as many passes as anyone in our colours. Collison may show more in the final third but in general, no. Behrami? No. Kovac? Nope.

Or was your post a wind-up?
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Re: The big Mark Noble debate...

Postby Tel The Hammer on Wed Jan 20, 2010 6:45 pm

SenzaPaura wrote:Stats don't lie.


You're right.

Hayden Mullins really is one of the best players in the Premier League. :lol:
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Re: The big Mark Noble debate...

Postby noble art on Wed Jan 20, 2010 6:46 pm

we need a right back?....
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Re: The big Mark Noble debate...

Postby carnage on Wed Jan 20, 2010 6:52 pm

Cuenca 'ammer wrote:Similar to Darren Fletcher then...and we all know that HE'S s***e...

:?


You being serious?
Fletcher is one of the best midfielders in the League.
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Re: The big Mark Noble debate...

Postby rare as rockinghorse shat on Wed Jan 20, 2010 6:55 pm

SenzaPaura wrote:Stats don't lie.

They nearly always lie.

Did you know that Carl Fletcher was a more successful passer than Steven Gerrard according to the stats, at some point when he was here one season.

SenzaPaura wrote:They don't tell the whole truth but they certainly knock any suggestion that he gives the ball away on head (well they did until recently).


Indeed they don't. They very rarely tell the truth because they don't tell the whole story.
For example, James Tomkins success rate for passing may be (or may not, as the case may be) one of the best in the league.
That's because the **** passes back to Green every other pass :lol:

SenzaPaura wrote:And in regards to creativity, show me a central midfielder in our squad whose passing is as progressive as Noble's when he is on form.


Again, it comes down with what you do with the ball. Noble is one of the biggest culprits at the club for playing slack passes, albeit successful ones, to other players, thus killing the momentum of moves.
He's not a bad passer, but at the same time, he's not great either... he's just ok.
He's never, at any point, been the best passer or most creative passer at the club which was what I (perhaps rather pedantically) disagreed with you on.

SenzaPaura wrote:Or was your post a wind-up?


Nah, wasn't a wind up. Most people assume it is, when you use Nigel Quashie in the sentence :lol:

You know when I'm on a wind up cos it's usually racist and/or about having sex with children. :thup:
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Re: The big Mark Noble debate...

Postby Matt of iron on Wed Jan 20, 2010 7:16 pm

carnage wrote:
You being serious?
Fletcher is one of the best midfielders in the League.



Don't let LIbero hear you say that.
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Re: The big Mark Noble debate...

Postby West Ham Matt on Wed Jan 20, 2010 7:21 pm

carnage wrote:
You being serious?
Fletcher is one of the best midfielders in the League.


:lol: :lol:

Piss off :lol:

He is a kicker and that's it.

****ing dire player.
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Re: The big Mark Noble debate...

Postby JonG86 on Wed Jan 20, 2010 7:21 pm

On footy manager I played him as the "Xavi Alonso" style defensive midfielder (deep lying play maker)...

Then I sold him for £10m as soon as I could and brought in Moutinho from Sporting.
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Re: The big Mark Noble debate...

Postby Matt of iron on Wed Jan 20, 2010 7:23 pm

JonG86 wrote:On footy manager I played him as the "Xavi Alonso" style defensive midfielder (deep lying play maker)...

Then I sold him for £10m as soon as I could and brought in Moutinho from Sporting.



Jon's sussed it.
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Re: The big Mark Noble debate...

Postby rare as rockinghorse shat on Wed Jan 20, 2010 7:23 pm

JonG86 wrote:On footy manager I played him as the "Xavi Alonso" style defensive midfielder (deep lying play maker)...


So... basically....

rare as rockinghorse shat wrote:He should play like Guti


8-) :lol:
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