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February 24th, 2003 marks the 10th anniversary of the death of West Ham United's favourite son, Bobby Moore. This thread is here for you to mark the occasion with your thoughts/memories/recollections of the great man.
Bobby Moore - Legend:
12th April 1941 - 24th February 1993
The Bobby Moore Fund for Cancer Research
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This is a fine article about Bobby and, 10 years on, reminds us that we will never see the like of him again at West Ham.
Soccer-Ten years after Moore's death, Beckham carries the flame
By Robert Woodward
LONDON, Feb 21 (Reuters) - Both East End boys, England captains and blond-haired crowd favourites, David Beckham and Bobby Moore epitomise a sporting ideal that many thought had died with Moore 10 years ago.
Moore's death, on February 24, 1993, was seen as a seminal moment for the country and its national game, the passing of a symbol of a golden age which had peaked with the World Cup victory in 1966.
``We shall never see his like again'' was a common sentiment when cancer killed Moore at the age of just 51.
In the decade since his death, soccer has undergone a huge change. There has been a polarization of riches in both England and the rest of Europe with an elite band of clubs dominating both continental and domestic competitions.
But there is an almost tangible link between the game Moore played and today's game which has Beckham as its hero.
For in the same way that Moore, a good-looking blond England captain from east London was an icon for his era, so another good-looking blond England captain from east London is an icon for this one.
Beckham, a millionaire many times over, appears on as many front pages as back, just as Moore did after he led England to World Cup glory at Wembley.
Gossip columns were almost as fascinated by Moore and his wife Tina as the tabloids of 2003 are with Beckham and his pop star wife Victoria. Beckham is as much the face of Manchester United and England as Moore was of West Ham United and England.
But despite all the trappings of wealth and all the glamour that surrounds Beckham, at heart there is no denying he is first and foremost a football man, just as Moore was.
Beckham and Moore were born just miles apart in east London and while Beckham was lured north, Moore is forever linked with his local club, West Ham.
After making his debut at 17 he played alongside Hammers team mates Martin Peters and Geoff Hurst, scorer of a hat-trick in England's 4-2 win over West Germany in the World Cup final.
In all he played over 1,000 senior games in a 19-year professional career, which included 108 appearances for England.
He had made his international debut at 21 and became the youngest player ever to be captain in May 1963 against Czechoslovakia.
Moore, always wearing the trace of a smile, always relaxed whatever the pressure, was an integral part of social life in London, the heartbeat of the Swinging Sixties.
But unlike Mick Jagger and John Lennon, mothers were not frightened of Moore. Good-looking, courteous and suave, Moore fulfilled the popular image of what an Englishman should be, a sort of James Bond in football shorts.
Even when he was caught up in the Bogota bracelet affair of
1970 -- a trumped-up theft charge that failed to derail England's preparations for the 1970 World Cup finals -- Moore retained a dignity and elegance that never faded.
Although the crowning moment of his career was the 1966 World Cup, he came through the Bogota ordeal to give a series of outstanding displays in the finals in Mexico.
Arguably the best match of his life was against Brazil in the opening round. Brazil won an epic match 1-0 long remembered for Gordon Banks's brilliant save from Pele.
But Moore was peerless and another lasting memory of those finals is the famous picture of Moore and Pele -- equals on the field who became great friends off it -- swapping shirts at the end of the game.
Pele, the greatest player of all time, had the utmost respect for Moore the man. ``He was a fantastic player, a wonderful friend. One of the saddest days of my life was when he died. I often think of him and I still miss him,'' says Pele.
LEGACY LIVES ON
Moore's death robbed English soccer of one of its greats at a cruelly early age -- yet soccer did not treat Moore kindly after he retired as a player in 1977 -- two years after he had played for his second club Fulham against his beloved West Ham in the 1975 FA Cup final.
The Football Association never utilised his special qualities in either ambassadorial or coaching roles -- and his only direct involvement with the game came in low key managerial jobs with non-league Oxford City and lower league Southend United.
He later worked as a witty and informed analyst for Capital Radio in London, but, as his son Dean remembers, his father wrote off for 18 jobs -- and only two clubs bothered to reply.
Still, he will never be forgotten.
The Bobby Moore Fund, organised by his second wife Stephanie, has raised more than 2.0 million pounds ($3.19 million) for research into the bowel cancer that killed him.
The Bobby Moore Stand at Upton Park is a fitting tribute to his reputation, and West Ham still aspire to play the kind of neat attractive soccer that epitomises Moore's era -- even if they are currently in dire trouble at the wrong end of the premier league table.
For a while in the 1960s, Moore was the Golden Boy of English soccer -- a mantle that now wrests with Beckham.
Beckham has become the closest thing English soccer has to royalty. What he wears, his hairstyle, how he brings up his children are deemed as important as how he conducts his official duties.
A study by academics this month said he was the most influential man in the country - ``his image is a global issue'', Warwick University's department of sociology said.
Moore and Beckham had similar approaches to captaincy - you lead by example not by shouting at your team mates.
Moore may never have had the material wealth that Beckham enjoys -- or won as many trophies as Beckham has done. But he did lead England to victory in the World Cup final.
Until Beckham does that, Moore's place as an undisputed colossus of the English game remains secure -- no matter how many millions Beckham ends up with in the bank.
Bobby Moore should read SIR Bobby Moore.
West Ham and England Legend.
Greatest player to wear the famous claret and blue shirt.
Greatest player to wear the famous white of England.
Greatest player to be snubbed by the F.A.
Greatest player in the mids of ALL West Ham United supports.
RIP Mr. Moore.
I'm sorry, the moment I saw Soppy b*llocks mentioned in the same breath as our Bobby a sense of murderous nausea overcame me and I was unable to read further.
I just wanted to start this tribute thread off in the simplest, most respectful manner possible:
Bobby: :doff: :doff: :doff: :doff: :doff: :doff: :doff: :doff: :doff: :doff:
Putting Beckham alonside Moore is an absolute insult.
To suggest Bobby occupied as much front page news as Beckham is absolute rubbish.
Bobby was an East End Hero, who was ignored by the game and the UK generally before his tragic death.
Whilst Bobby Charlton was revered, Moore was pushed to the side by football, his achievements largely forgotten... but never by Hammers fans who always idolised him as a great player and a great man.
After his death the rest of the country realised what we always new, he was the greatest England Captain ever.
Quite agree with the other posters, to mention Beckham in the same sentence as 'Sir' Robert is an insult to his memory. I wear a West Ham shirt to all games and it will always have Moore and the number 6 on the back. The number should have been retired at his death but it is too late now the likes of Foxe and Ruddock have worn it.
of all the accomplishments, i cannot EVER forget the game that about summed up his attitude to the game. fortunately i was in the chicken run/east terrace (cannot remember the date)
Mooro cleared the ball out, it smacked the referee in the head, and he fell down. the game continued until bobby bent over, picked up the whistle and blew it, stopping the game.
he had a smile a yard wide on his face, everyone in the whole ground was gobsmacked !!!!
dunno if anyone else would have thought of it, or as quickly, or even to have seen the humour in it.......
of everything else, in the england shirt, the world cup etc., THAT is the moment that always pops into my head, i always retell that situation, especially to referees, who agree it is amusing.
sadly the game will never be the same for the way it is played now.
other than pdc stopping the game when the everton goalie got hurt,.
two more passionate and yet diametrically as opposed both are, a mutual respect i HAVE to believe it would exist.
I always remember that incident where Bobby and Jimmy Greaves danced that little jig as they ran past eachother during a match at Sp*rs!
Even Brian Moore laughed out loud during the commentary!
I just wonder what the club are going to do to honour the man 10 years on. I went to the game against the Premier All stars when the BM stand was officially opened, but feel that with the museum, they have tried to cash in on the man. After he finished playing, did anyone at the club try to bring him in to use his expertise? Did England offer anything to its 'favourite son'? I feel he was treated really badly by West Ham after what he put into the club and what he means to us fans. Look at the people England have in 'advisory' jobs now -Sammy Lee for christs sake. The FA and West Ham let him down and let our football suffer by not using the wealth of experience he had. We will probably never ever win the World Cup again and that man lifted it for us. I have a recording of Sportsnight shown the night after he died, and I will be watching it come the 24th, with a tear in my eye
Raise your glasses to Sir Bobby Moore
not a lot to add to the excellent posts so far.
He was quite simply the greatest england captain and the greatest player to wear the claret and blue which is so close to our hearts.
The current defensive shambles must have him turning in his grave, Sir Bobby Moore you are a true hero, a gentleman and you remind us what West Ham should stand for.
I for one will be raising a glass to you sir.
Three memories that I will never forget about the best defender the world has ever seen.
Like Houston Hammer,I was there the day he blew the ref's whistle,and he not the official's stopped the game.
The other was the day when he went in goal against Stoke in the League Cup semi final, but most of all was the saddest that cold horiible Sunday morning,woke up early,took my then 4 year old boy and 2 year old daughter and went down to UP. It was't planned,wasn't premeditated,just had to be there with the thousands of others.
My son whenever he is talking about current football so called great's proudly tell's his mates that the best defender in the world ever was not only playing for West Ham
but was West Ham.
Booby Moore is the reason I support West Ham I can still remember my first trip to Upton Park in the early seventies and seeing him in the flesh. I was overawed I couldn't believe it was really him. He will never be replaced.
I was lucky to see bobby play lots of times. I went to the next home game after he died and I am not ashamed to admit it, I cried my eyes out at the ground. What with the flowers,messages,and other clubs scarfs all paying tribute to a great foolballer. The game really was a non event as the score didn't matter it was just being at the ground. I still rember some of the music they played (morningtown ride by the seekers) was one. I will never forget that day and it still brings a lump in my throat when I see the old paper clippings, which I kept and it showed all thr tributes on the gates and the entrance. Rest in peace SIR Bobby Moore there will never be another one like you.
I never had the privilege of watching him play.
I did however have the privilege to be told all about him by my father.
I remember the day he died.
I remember the sunday that UP was awash with floral tributes.
This country let him down.
And as A/h says, how dare the media talk of Beckham in the same breath as Mooro.
The man is a legend. His reputation preceded him.
Never would he spit at anybody. He was man not woman.
Nobody would dare argue with him.
He was football.
Not a great deal to add to the sentiments already raised.
I'm not old enough to have seen Bobby play but just being a West Ham fan means that you grow up with the aura of the man. I don't remember my Dad ever sitting me down to tell me about him, I don't remember seeing lots of footage of him as a kid, nor do I remember lots of media coverage remembering his playing days.
I did, however, grow up knowing that Bobby was the greatest player to play for West Ham and England's greatest captain. The mans aura and influence ensured that alone. If you're a West Ham fan you just know and I take a lot of pride in the fact that Bobby played for West ham.
I was genuinely moved to tears when I heard about his death - it seemed like I knew him personally. The FA should bow their heads in shame at his treatment.
No-one I have ever come across has a bad word to say about the legend that is Bobby Moore.
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