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by cockney hammer on Tue Jul 01, 2003 10:56 pm
i do not know if you are intrested. but i collect football badges from around the world that have a pair of crossed hammers on there badge like west ham i have put some of the badges on the following site
http://www.footinsignes.fr.st/
click on where you see the words crossed hammers and my ugly mug will pop up!!! please feel free to have a look i also write a page in the west ham fanzine ott. about this subject! hope you find them intresting!
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by sicknote on Tue Jul 01, 2003 10:57 pm
cockney hammer wrote:i do not know if you are intrested. but i collect football badges from around the world that have a pair of crossed hammers on there badge like west ham i have put some of the badges on the following site http;//www.footinsignes.fr.st/ click on where you see the words crossed hammers and my ugly mug will pop up!!! please feel free to have a look i also write a page in the west ham fanzine ott. about this subject! hope you find them intresting!
do you do the bit in one of the fanzines on the crossed hammers sir
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by cockney hammer on Tue Jul 01, 2003 11:02 pm
yes mate. it is in black and white in the fanzine. so it is in colour on that website. i hope it looks better because as i said they will all be in colour.
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by sicknote on Tue Jul 01, 2003 11:05 pm
cockney hammer wrote:yes mate. it is in black and white in the fanzine. so it is in colour on that website. i hope it looks better because as i said they will all be in colour.
good link sir
theres a fair few out there with the badge, nice web page cockney hammer, :doff: , think i'll sticky it for tomorow
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by cockney hammer on Tue Jul 01, 2003 11:14 pm
it must mean that our crossed hammers are the most popular in the world!!
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by Rob on Tue Jul 01, 2003 11:16 pm
Nice site. Where else do they come from other than shipbuilders and miners?
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by cockney hammer on Wed Jul 02, 2003 12:07 am
rob, they all stem from indutsries of coal mining, copper mining, salt mining, ship bulding from poland, and from germany after the second world war when germany was divided in to east and west,all existing football clubs were disbanded, and then had to reform under different names. a new social system, a new culture and new clubs!! as east germany was to be a socialist worker's republic, the clubstook there names from local firms, businesses and industrial companies. and were intended to be representative of their working class roots. since professionalism was froned upon behind the iron curtain, many players remained on the works payrolls but were given menial non-taxing jobs that allowed them the time to train.
all the way up untill the fall of the berlin wall, football there was governed by a central body, known as the dfv, who also decided which players would play for which teams and inevitably it led to them becoming a corrupt regime. and all of the country's top players ended up at a very select handful of clubs. with the lack of a transfer system, players more or less had to do as they were told. or they simply did not play.
as i said, most club names indicate which industry or businessthey aer linked to,and most of the ones coming under the same name were also linked by their own central governing body. just so you know here are a few of the clues. aktivist = from the mining and coal industries. = wismut = mainly uranium mining.on behalf of the soviet union. stahl = steel. tractor = argicultural. dynamo = police and secret service aufbau = construction and bulding. vorwarts = army. motor = engineering gluckauf = mining. lok railway.
some times the club had the name of a smaller individual firm of factory who supported them, and there was a law which meant that every firm had to sponsor their own sport's club. one of the oddest names i have come acrosswas from the region of chemnitz whose team is now called karl marx stadt, but back in the day they was called betreibssportgemein motor fritz heckertkarl marx stadt!!! you can bet it was fun on the terraces when some wag shouted out give us a b!!!!!
so now when ever you see a badge with tracktor on it you know it's linked to the farming and agricultural industryand when you see a game between stahl and dynamo it's the steel workers vs the old bill!!! another thing you see on many badges is the word gluck which is german for the word luck and much used by the mining teams whose workers spent long hours under the ground and said whenever they were on their way down into there subterranean hell-hols. taken from ott issue 107.
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by Rob on Wed Jul 02, 2003 12:30 am
Thanks for that. Good stuff. I'd never have imagined 'Dynamo' meaning that...
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by Lost Hammer on Wed Jul 02, 2003 1:04 am
cockney hammer wrote:rob, they all stem from indutsries of coal mining, copper mining, salt mining, ship bulding from poland, and from germany after the second world war when germany was divided in to east and west,all existing football clubs were disbanded, and then had to reform under different names. a new social system, a new culture and new clubs!! as east germany was to be a socialist worker's republic, the clubstook there names from local firms, businesses and industrial companies. and were intended to be representative of their working class roots. since professionalism was froned upon behind the iron curtain, many players remained on the works payrolls but were given menial non-taxing jobs that allowed them the time to train.
all the way up untill the fall of the berlin wall, football there was governed by a central body, known as the dfv, who also decided which players would play for which teams and inevitably it led to them becoming a corrupt regime. and all of the country's top players ended up at a very select handful of clubs. with the lack of a transfer system, players more or less had to do as they were told. or they simply did not play.
as i said, most club names indicate which industry or businessthey aer linked to,and most of the ones coming under the same name were also linked by their own central governing body. just so you know here are a few of the clues. aktivist = from the mining and coal industries. = wismut = mainly uranium mining.on behalf of the soviet union. stahl = steel. tractor = argicultural. dynamo = police and secret service aufbau = construction and bulding. vorwarts = army. motor = engineering gluckauf = mining. lok railway.
some times the club had the name of a smaller individual firm of factory who supported them, and there was a law which meant that every firm had to sponsor their own sport's club. one of the oddest names i have come acrosswas from the region of chemnitz whose team is now called karl marx stadt, but back in the day they was called betreibssportgemein motor fritz heckertkarl marx stadt!!! you can bet it was fun on the terraces when some wag shouted out give us a b!!!!!
so now when ever you see a badge with tracktor on it you know it's linked to the farming and agricultural industryand when you see a game between stahl and dynamo it's the steel workers vs the old bill!!! another thing you see on many badges is the word gluck which is german for the word luck and much used by the mining teams whose workers spent long hours under the ground and said whenever they were on their way down into there subterranean hell-hols. taken from ott issue 107.
Probably one of the most interesting pieces I have read on here for a while c/h.
Also like the bit about 'Give me a B' 
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by Guest on Wed Jul 02, 2003 7:53 am
hope you all found it intresting.
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by canvey hammer on Wed Jul 02, 2003 6:06 pm
bloody hell this is amazing! i thought we was the only club with hammers! cockney hammer great site!
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by DI GREEKIO on Thu Jul 03, 2003 5:33 pm
another bloody must have item for di greekio perhaps???????????? :roll:
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by cockney hammer on Thu Jul 03, 2003 6:34 pm
whay do you mean di greekio?? another must have item??
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by DI GREEKIO on Thu Jul 03, 2003 6:41 pm
the badge...the fuckin badge.........
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by cockney hammer on Thu Jul 03, 2003 7:09 pm
lol!! what one you crazy sod????? i might have some spares.
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by Serbian Hammer on Thu Jul 03, 2003 8:09 pm
Absolutely brillinat site, Cockney.Why is it not still sticky?
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by Lost Hammer on Thu Jul 03, 2003 8:12 pm
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by BATH HAMMER on Fri Jul 04, 2003 9:41 am
COCKNEY HAMMER ONE OF THE BEST THINGS I HAVE SEEN ON A WEBSITE!! WHY IS THIS STILL NOT STICKY????????????
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by cockney hammer on Fri Jul 04, 2003 8:00 pm
thanks to everyone who has visited the website! it has taken footinsignes in to the top two hundred websites. i hope that you all enjoyed looking at the badges. once again thanks steve (cockney hammer)
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by Serbian Hammer on Fri Jul 04, 2003 11:16 pm
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What country has the most hammers badges? Are there any other team with claret and blue colours and hammers badge? Thanks!
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