Newcastle Utd 3 West Ham Utd 1 (28/09/07)

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Newcastle Utd 3 West Ham Utd 1 (28/09/07)

Postby Reece_TMA on Mon Sep 17, 2007 2:35 pm

havent seen one yet so I thought id give it a go , my team :

green

neill collins upson mccartney

ljungberg noble mullins etherington

ashton camara


subs:
solano
wright
zamora
bowyer
boa morte

is anyone else not convinced with that midfield on paper but they seem to be doing well so fair play to them
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Postby happy_hammer on Mon Sep 17, 2007 2:38 pm

Bit harsh dropping Bowyer and Cole after Saturday. My team

Green
Neill Collins Upson Mccartney
Bowyer Mullins Parker (if fit) Ethers
Ashton Cole
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Postby cockney farmer on Mon Sep 17, 2007 2:41 pm

happy_hammer wrote:Bit harsh dropping Bowyer and Cole after Saturday. My team

Green
Neill Collins Upson Mccartney
Bowyer Mullins Parker (if fit) Ethers
Ashton Cole


No Noble are you nuts.
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Postby Reece_TMA on Mon Sep 17, 2007 2:42 pm

am i the only one in the ground who thought coles performance was the worst striking play since titi camara ? Ill say it again if it was 0-0 when he missed that ridiculous sitter you wouldnt be able to move for carlton cole is a donkey threads ! I cant believe you wouldnt rather have camara up front if bellars is still out
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Postby Whufc06 on Mon Sep 17, 2007 2:57 pm

--------------Green--------------

Neill--Gabbidon--Upson--Linda

Bowyer--Mullins--Noble--Ethers

--------Ashton--Camera----

Harsh on Ginge I know but after seeing the trouble Boro caused in behind our defence Saturday I think we need a bit more pace back there, especially with Owen and Martins up front for them.
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Postby DagenhamHammer on Mon Sep 17, 2007 3:00 pm

Cant see the attraction with upson. Thought Ginge came in and showed how it should be done. Midfield stays the same for me. Neil has been crap this season perhaps he needs a rest. Bring solano in at right back.



-----------------Green ---------------

Solano -----Gabbidon/Anton----Collins -----Mcartney


Bowyer ----- Mullins ----- Noble ----- Ethers

------------Ashton -------- Camara
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Postby Reece_TMA on Mon Sep 17, 2007 3:05 pm

agree somethings up with neill , looked a bit shaky in pre season too , he'el come good though form is temporary class is permanent
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Postby mattcox10 on Mon Sep 17, 2007 3:05 pm

Have we already written Bellers out of it? :?
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Postby Scaloni Is The Messiah on Mon Sep 17, 2007 3:10 pm

..........................Green...........................
Neill.......Ferdinand.....Upson......McCartney
Bowyer.....Mullins......Noble.......Etherington
...............Ashton.......Camara...................

Subs: Wright, Gabbidon, Parker, Boa Morte, Zamora

Think we need Camara's pace as we're likely to be playing counter-attacking football again. Apart from that, same side as the Reading game. Give Parker a run-out towards the end. As said, Ferdinand in the back four will give us less hassle from Owen than a Collins-Upson pairing.

Reckon we'll get a 1-1 draw, Camara to score on his debut.
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Postby Reece_TMA on Mon Sep 17, 2007 3:15 pm

no ljungberg ? i thought he looked alright when he came on
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Postby DagenhamHammer on Mon Sep 17, 2007 3:17 pm

Yea but who deserves to lose their place.

Bowyer is scoring and so is ethers... and ljungberg is too lighweight for the middle.
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Postby Scaloni Is The Messiah on Mon Sep 17, 2007 3:20 pm

Reece_TMA wrote:no ljungberg ? i thought he looked alright when he came on


So did I. Problem is, we've got too many players pushing for a place. Ideally, I'd want Ljungberg, Solano, Collins and Cole on that bench, but you can't have them all. I want to see Parker given a go next weekend and Boa Morte gives you an option up front, so that was my reason for picking him. We do have an embarrassment of riches just at the minute, though, what with our 'crap' players playing well. Long may it continue.
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Postby Gringo Hammer on Mon Sep 17, 2007 3:33 pm

By far our toughest assignment so far. Without wishing serious injury on anyone, maybe Owen will pick up a slight knock at Derby tonight!!

Green
Neill....Ferdinand.....Upson......McCartney
Solano...Mullins.....Noble.....Etherington
Ashton...Boa Morte

Subs:
Wright, Collins, Bowyer, Llungberg, Cole
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Postby Countryboy on Mon Sep 17, 2007 3:39 pm

Assuming ... Bellamy is out. Neill isn't jetlagged. Ferdinand might still be out. Then I'd go 4-5-1 (which Curbs did a lot at Charlton, BTW), with two holding midfielders and three attacking, as follows ...

Green

Neill
Collins
Upson
McCartney

Mullins
Noble

Ljungberg
Bowyer
Etherington

Ashton

Subs:

Wright
Gabbidon
Solano
Boa Morte
Camara

That way, you make it tough for Newcastle to break the team down, while still offering the potential to break at speed, with Ashton holding the ball up and feeding oncoming midfielders.
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Postby cockney farmer on Mon Sep 17, 2007 3:40 pm

Countryboy wrote:Assuming ... Bellamy is out. Neill isn't jetlagged. Ferdinand might still be out. Then I'd go 4-5-1 (which Curbs did a lot at Charlton, BTW), with two holding midfielders and three attacking, as follows ...

Green

Neill
Collins
Upson
McCartney

Mullins
Noble

Ljungberg
Bowyer
Etherington

Ashton

Subs:

Wright
Gabbidon
Solano
Boa Morte
Camara

That way, you make it tough for Newcastle to break the team down, while still offering the potential to break at speed, with Ashton holding the ball up and feeding oncoming midfielders.


Andy Gray you should be preparing for the game tonight. !
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Postby carnage on Mon Sep 17, 2007 3:47 pm

Good shout CB. :thup:

I think Camara needs to play with Ashton in a 4-4-2 though. Keep Cole on the bench.


Seems people are slowly realising we have quite a strong squad now.

Potentially 5 out from out strongest side on Saturday and Bellamy going off before we had scored. Thats not to mention Gabbidon, Solano, or Camara.
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Postby westlondonhammer on Mon Sep 17, 2007 3:53 pm

spot on CB... exactly what i was thinking

Only slight change would probably go for cole on the bench instead of LBM
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Postby DrVenk on Mon Sep 17, 2007 4:22 pm

Reece_TMA wrote:no ljungberg ? i thought he looked alright when he came on


Yep, superb booking :? He's only had a few days training and 9 mins of football recently. And as already suggested on here, I think Noble should be rested (not dropped) for this game. Don't want to flog the talent. A Mullins-Parker centre midfield would be slightly more solid defensively as well. I think we need continuity at the back so I would go with the same four. And throwing Solano or Camara in is silly - they have only just met the squad properly today. I'd play LBM as a roaming striker.


----------------Green---------------

Neill-------Collins------Upson----Ringo

Bowyer----Parker-----Mullins-----Ethers

-------------------LBM-------------------

-----------------Ashton-------------------
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Postby bubbles1966 on Mon Sep 17, 2007 4:26 pm

Collins AND Upson AND Neill - after Saturdays performance :shock:

How many do we think Michael Owen will put way if we give him 4 one on ones?

Got to have some pace in there - sorry Ginge - you're out - Gabbidon is better suited to this one.

Have to say I am quietly confident of 3 points providing our injuries dont get much worse - front players apart, Newcastle are shocking - Nicky Butt, Nzogbia at left back, Stephen Carr. If Owen gets injured they're bottom 6 material.

Camara up front please if Bellers is out - again, some pace.
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Postby Fionn on Mon Sep 17, 2007 4:35 pm

I would have Anton back in for Ginge (if fit), Cole for Bellamy (if injured) and leave the rest as is.

DagenhamHammer, Upson is our best defender in my eyes, he is the best reader of the ball and the most assured, he would be my first choice CB any day of the week.
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