Stoke City 2 West Ham Utd 1 (17/10/09)

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Re: Stoke v West Ham: Match Thread

Postby Trap1 on Sat Oct 17, 2009 5:11 pm

The lack of a striker is really the difference between our current position and mid table.
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Re: Stoke v West Ham: Match Thread

Postby simon1982 on Sat Oct 17, 2009 5:12 pm

i will renew my season ticket when the club finally sorts itself out, when someone with half an idea on how to run a football club takes over, the fans have been robbed of to many broken promises, there are only so many times that you can keep on going back before sticking 2 fingers up and walking away!! For every good season, we have 3 crap ones, its become extremely boring. West Ham are an utter laughing stock. To many poor decisions that have cost millions, it is beggars belief how duxbury still has a job, if he were at any other company then he would have been given the boot a long time ago.
The players and management are fighting a lost cause, too many bad financial decisions over the last 3 years have finally begun to catch up with us.
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Re: Stoke v West Ham: Match Thread

Postby Geordie Hammer on Sat Oct 17, 2009 5:12 pm

saludo de carlitos wrote:We need him in Midfield, I know Faubert isn't the awnser there though. :(


Lucas Neill must be pissing himself laughing. I couldn't stand the bloke when he was with us but f*ck me, we need him
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Re: Stoke v West Ham: Match Thread

Postby Marc the Hammer on Sat Oct 17, 2009 5:13 pm

Marky wrote:No pace
No width
No aerial abilty


relegation


And no striker
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Re: Stoke v West Ham: Match Thread

Postby JonG86 on Sat Oct 17, 2009 5:13 pm

The lack of a defence that stops conceding goals is the problem.
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Re: Stoke v West Ham: Match Thread

Postby smuts on Sat Oct 17, 2009 5:13 pm

The sad fact is that we have bought in no-one decent since Zola arrived.

Savio (before we flogged him after 6 months) Jiminez, Kovac, Da Costa....have any of them done anything in a Hammers shirt? and seriously....are they likely to before they decide to bugger off?

Diamanti takes a decent freekick now and again....and that's it. £5.7 million? Are you telling me that there was no-one more capable of putting the ball in the back of the net?

We may be skint (a fact that people argued against for ages when we flogged Bellamy funnily enough and tried to justify it as good business as we were better off with out him) but it would help if with the limited funds available............we could have picked up at least one half decent player capable of doing a job in the PL.

We are f*cking screwed on and off the pitch. Run off the pitch by a bunch of bankers who have no interest in football, a CEO who has bull shitted to us constantly, a DOF who's transfer knowledge spans to within 20 miles of his father in law's Villa and a nice guy yes man manager who seems sadly out of his depth when it comes to tactics, has allowed the board to strip us bare with his small squad b*llocks and also seemed hopeless at actually persuading anyone of note to join us.

Our only hope is that Zola goes back to basics and suddenly Jiminez and Diamanti catch fire.
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Re: Stoke v West Ham: Match Thread

Postby raneman on Sat Oct 17, 2009 5:13 pm

Zola is a nice guy and he's had a great career as a player in England. Unfortunately, he isn't a very good manager, probably a good coach, but he isn't going to get us out of this situation we're in. He doesn't seem to understand his idea of a 4-3-3 formation isn't working and it's hurting us now. Unless a change is made it's going to be too late. His substitutions come too late to have any impact. And we're not even playing good football and never look a threat up front. Bilic pls or someone who can get us out. And a message to our so called owners, please do us all a favour and leave; make it soon as you are not welcome anymore!!! There must be a way to unhinge their grip on our club as they're draining the life out of us!!! Gold/Sullivan would be a life saver right now.
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Re: Stoke v West Ham: Match Thread

Postby The Boys from the Boleyn on Sat Oct 17, 2009 5:14 pm

We're worryingly starting to look similar to Middlesborogh last year:

Young, likable but fundamentally inexperienced and tactically naive ex-pro manager. Team that is constantly praised for playing the "right" kind of football and giving it a go against solid opposition sides, despite never actually beating them. Squad that is made up of an experienced spine but not properly supported by young players who, although full of promise, are woefully short of premier-league experience.

It's so depressingly West Ham that all the obvious holes in our team have been self-made - blood and guts central defender, now plays for Aston Villa; organised, vocal full-back leader/captain, now plays for everton; pacey, lippy finisher, now plays at City.

I don't think we'll go down if the squad stays the same as I think that the core is good enough to ensure we stay above at least 3 teams. I do think that its going to be a torrid season, full of depressingly toothless football, with a surprising amount of goals from set pieces.
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Re: Stoke v West Ham: Match Thread

Postby happydaystoytown on Sat Oct 17, 2009 5:15 pm

Behrami would be wasted at full back, we need his 'engine' in midfield. No, we're stuck with Faubert. Not replacing Neill will be as costly as no cover up front.
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Re: Stoke v West Ham: Match Thread

Postby JohnnyMoncs on Sat Oct 17, 2009 5:15 pm

Should have Kept Collins, swapped Upson with Bent and bought a decent CB Turner maybe.
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Re: Stoke v West Ham: Match Thread

Postby Cadenza on Sat Oct 17, 2009 5:15 pm

We need Neil at RB.. oh yeah we got rid of him..

ok.. we need a powerful presence alongside Upson at CB, how about Collins!.. oh yeah bugger...

ok.. a decent striker to play alongside Cole so at least we can score more goals than the opposition.. oh yeah we didn't get anyone..

Let's face facts...

Faubert is not a premiership class defender, he should be on right midfied if anywhere..
Kovac.. what exactly does he provide?, creativity = none, Behrami does his role and much better..
Noble.. more of what i heard on the radio today.. sounds like he was up for it.. shame most games he doesn't seem to make a difference

Has to be 2 up front and Jiminez behind them, or 2 quick wingers.. or something..
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Re: Stoke v West Ham: Match Thread

Postby Marc the Hammer on Sat Oct 17, 2009 5:18 pm

JohnnyMoncs wrote:Should have Kept Collins, swapped Upson with Bent and bought a decent CB Turner maybe.


Thats the problem we cant
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Re: Stoke v West Ham: Match Thread

Postby JohnnyMoncs on Sat Oct 17, 2009 5:19 pm

[quote="Marc the Hammer"][quote="JohnnyMoncs"]Should have Kept Collins, swapped Upson with Bent and bought a decent CB Turner maybe./quote]

Thats the problem we cant

I mean before we bought Diamanti we had some money
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Re: Stoke v West Ham: Match Thread

Postby IngatestoneHammer on Sat Oct 17, 2009 5:20 pm

Lucas Neill must be pissing himself laughing. I couldn't stand the bloke when he was with us but f*ck me, we need him[/quote]

Totally agree ....really need a right full back that defends and can cross a ball....and someone that organises the back 4 so that we are tight......Maybe give Spector a run there ?
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Re: Stoke v West Ham: Match Thread

Postby Cadenza on Sat Oct 17, 2009 5:20 pm

We're ****ed.. but we'll have the last laugh.. once we're down the premier league will be full of teams like..

Stoke
Bolton
Blackburn

..ok i can't think of any positives really
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Re: Stoke v West Ham: Match Thread

Postby AlfieG on Sat Oct 17, 2009 5:21 pm

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Re: Stoke v West Ham: Match Thread

Postby kaybee15 on Sat Oct 17, 2009 5:21 pm

Regrettably coming to the conclusion that Zola isn't the right manager for us at this time. The kind of football he wants to play is not going to work with our current squad, and even less so when Green, Upson, Behrami and Cole piss off in January - which is looking more and more nailed on each week. If we need to play like Stoke or Bolton for a season or two, until finances are sorted, then so be it. We are really heading for meltdown at the moment...
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Re: Stoke v West Ham: Match Thread

Postby AlfieG on Sat Oct 17, 2009 5:22 pm

IngatestoneHammer wrote:Lucas Neill must be pissing himself laughing. I couldn't stand the bloke when he was with us but f*ck me, we need him


Totally agree ....really need a right full back that defends and can cross a ball....and someone that organises the back 4 so that we are tight......Maybe give Spector a run there ?[/quote]

Now I know you are taking the piss....... :eh:
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Re: Stoke v West Ham: Match Thread

Postby jaybs on Sat Oct 17, 2009 5:22 pm

The problem is Carlton Cole has No One along side him! he had a great game and Noble was first class today!

But the problem has to lie with our owners and if they do not sell up then there is not much hope,
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Re: Stoke v West Ham: Match Thread

Postby cockney hammer on Sat Oct 17, 2009 5:24 pm

i can just see the sunday gossip now zola out bilic :lol: in
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