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Our future manager is... Avram GrantModerator: Gnome Re: Our future manager is... Avram GrantThe one important question is..... WILL HE WAVE?
He ****ing better
Re: Our future manager is... Avram GrantWell I grew up around Royal Navy estates in Gosport as my Dad was a matelot so obviously know a fair few Pompey fans though when I was at school half of them supported Liverpool, Man Utd and Spurs. As I said they liked Uncle (shiver) Avram and admired his passion. They also said he did well to motivate the players and get them to the final in the position the club was in, but none of my mates have said they liked his tactics and none are gutted he has left. A wee bit sad perhaps after his display of emotion and his efforts, but most definitely not gutted. All of them questioned him playing one upfront at home (ring any bells?) in must win games when there was still a slight chance of staying up and said he was always slow to make substitutions when they were clearly needed.
Can't see him definitely bringing stability to the club either. He was at Chelsea and Portsmouth for only a year each. 4 years with Israel granted but before that 2 at Maccabi Haifa. Why is he going to bring stability? I suppose if the Davids put faith in him as they have with others things will be stable. Not sure what he will be able to do or is capable of doing in the transfer market but we will see soon enough. Anyway not my choice but I'll support him and I hope he does well and stays 4 or 5 years. I'm not excited about his appointment but maybe that is good (Hughes or Jol might have used us as a stepping stone) and he'll do okay and stick around and keep us safe and maybe take us on a cup run and go one better than Pardew and himself this year and win us a cup. I wouldn't moan if that happened
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Was Pompey's squad overall better than ours ?. How many games did he win as a manager with them ?. Just a opinion thats all, but i don't think he's as good as most on here are thinking and if you set the expectations to high, then the let down will be worse. Will he keep us in the PL, yes. Will the tactics be better, yes. If you make that the expectation then anything above and beyond that is a plus. If you thnk he will take us to immediate glory based on his "impressive" background, i would ****ing love it, just don't expect it. We're going to find out though in a couple of months.
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Fog on the Tyne delaying their journey?
Re: Our future manager is... Avram GrantI think this is an odd appointment to be honest. I reckon Roeder could have kept a bit of momentum going with the squad Chelsea had upon his appointment.
Pompey? How can anyone judge the chaos that has occured there...in my mind this is still a gamble.I would have gone for Hughes..a much safer bet...and younger with uncreased ear lobes..Pardon?
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it's because we've all known for at least 2 weeks that Grant was going to be manager. Had the appointment been more 'sudden', good, bad or mediocre, there would have been meltdown
Re: Our future manager is... Avram Grantat last .... we have a manager and most importantly ....why hasn't he signed anyone yet? Why hasn't he been photographed in next season's shirt yet? ....Grant out!!!
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...also, most sensible people, if not working will be outside enjoying the sun and trying to avoid World Cup fever and anyhting to do with football!!! I am clearly not sensible!
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There was no momentum at Chelsea, and he managed to get them closer to the Champions League win than either Mourinho or Scolari managed. As for not being able to judge Pompey ... ok, a stark assessment on results may be a little difficult to assess, but the team spirit he managed to galvanise there in the midst of that chaos when all seemed lost, when many teams would have just given up, complained, asked for transfers etc. was immensely impressive. So results aside , although getting them to an FA Cup Final beating top 4 teams on the way is no mean feat ... i'm more impressed by the spirit and teamwork he managed to get from his players at Portsmouth more than the results. I also thought Portsmouth played some decent football with some cutting edge, that had they a half decent forward would have reaped far more dividends and maybe even stayed up.
Re: Our future manager is... Avram GrantSeverly underwhelmed by this appointment. Maybe it's just me but I strongly believe that our managers should have some association with the club either as a player or as member of the backroom. On top of that I'm fed up with the whole fashionable foreign manager bit that seems to have gripped the top division in England.
Hope he does well but can't say I fell inspired or excited at this appointment
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He won as many cup games last season as Zola won league games (eight). With a club in absolute meltdown. I haven't seen one post on here suggesting that we are looking at immediate glory. We got half as many league points as Spurs did last season - any improvement on that will be most welcome.
Re: Our future manager is... Avram GrantNo one is expecting him to get us a top 6 finish ... the most excited anyone has got is mention of mid table mediocrity, and pushing the boat out, a decent cup run.
All i ask, is that he makes it fun to watch West Ham again. ... that he gets us all involved, has us folloiwng the team and him as a manager. Results are just that ... its the experience that counts. If we finish 12th or 7th, i don't really care too much ... just as long as I've enjoyed the season, and that i like the players, manager and club again. I optimistically believe Uncle Avram will deliver me that.
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I just don't buy that I was talking to my boss the other day about our vacant manager position (he is a passionate and well informed Liverpool fan, much as it pains me to say it!) He made that exact point. "You West Ham fans want some brilliant English coach, who played for West Ham, stood on the terraces as a boy......get real!" His point, and one I personally agreed with, is that in this day an age, you pick the best person for the job. It's great if you can get someone who has an affiliation with the club, but how many are there who fit that criteria? Curbs or Bilic I guess He also made the point that having an English manager isn't all it's cracked up to be. The world has opened up, and a foreign manager isn't as foreign as it would have been 15 or 20 years ago. His point being there aren't that many good English ones, and even fewer who would be a good fit for West Ham, yet there are plenty of good foreign coaches who do fully understand the English game The most important thing is to get someone who can tap into the spirit of the club. Pardew made a point of really trying to do that, and to a large degree succeeded. I'm sure a lot of our fans (certainly the younger ones) felt they had more of a common bond with Pardew than they did with Curbs, despite him being one of our own
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That makes him an exception, as plenty of Liverpool fans seem to be calling for a Kenny Dalglish & Ian Rush "Dream Team" to replace Rafa. FWIW, I make him absolutely spot on and I'm happy with Grant's appointment. Mind you, I'll be calling for his head when we lose to Colchester in the first round of the League cup!
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I did make the dig, that with the manager his club have, they're hardly the best advert for foreign managers! And was greeted with the legendary scouse sense of humour failure when any banter is directed at them As for your second point, won't we all!
Re: Our future manager is... Avram GrantHe'll be able to tip all his Vice Girls with Ann Summers stuff on the cheap i guess.
Re: Our future manager is... Avram GrantOur future manager is... Avram Grant, does that make sense?
Re: Our future manager is... Avram Grantas long as we dont sign monty matzo or larry lokshen i'm moderately happy .....
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