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Re: Summer Transfer Thread 2011-2012

Postby hammerdivone on Wed Sep 07, 2011 1:49 pm

D C wrote:The 09/10 season -

"According to Opta statistics...


One line in that report, based upon stats we haven't seen of 2 years ago?

What consitutes an 'error'? What did the Opta stats actually say? Why did Capello pick him if the 'stats' were accurate?
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Re: Summer Transfer Thread 2011-2012

Postby Yea Why Not on Wed Sep 07, 2011 2:02 pm

D C wrote:Anyway, his kicking and not dominating his box are his worst attributes, not his fumbles. He would be decent for a mid to lower table prem team, but probably not worth the 30k (?) a week to clubs of that level. Would make a good free for someone next summer.


Why do you hate English players?

Green is a good English keeper who is a laugh with the crowd and is more than good enough for us what ever division we are in. I'd be over the moon if he signed a new deal with us. If you had your way our squad would be full of foreign fairies
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Re: Summer Transfer Thread 2011-2012

Postby bobd_uk on Wed Sep 07, 2011 2:34 pm

Just had a look (re some of our new signings) at the Africa Cup of Nations qualifying. Senegal and the Ivory Coast have qualified, which means that we could potentially lose Demel, Faye and Diop for a month this season.

FWIW, Faye and Diop haven't been called up for a while, but Demel played in August.

The wonderful (.....) news is that Congo are out so Ilunga can stay...........
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Re: Summer Transfer Thread 2011-2012

Postby ashbanki on Wed Sep 07, 2011 3:15 pm

bobd_uk wrote:Just had a look (re some of our new signings) at the Africa Cup of Nations qualifying. Senegal and the Ivory Coast have qualified, which means that we could potentially lose Demel, Faye and Diop for a month this season.

FWIW, Faye and Diop haven't been called up for a while, but Demel played in August.

The wonderful (.....) news is that Congo are out so Ilunga can stay...........


Or Belgian Congo, as Herita fondly remembers it in his formative years!
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Re: Summer Transfer Thread 2011-2012

Postby D C on Wed Sep 07, 2011 3:27 pm

Yea Why Not wrote:Why do you hate English players?

Green is a good English keeper who is a laugh with the crowd and is more than good enough for us what ever division we are in. I'd be over the moon if he signed a new deal with us. If you had your way our squad would be full of foreign fairies


I dont hate English players. I hate the west ham fans cumming over a bang average goalkeeper who wouldnt be worth the wages to the premiership clubs that have a worse keeper. He wouldnt get into most prem team, thats why no bids for him.

I didnt even mention where he's from. Your the one obsessed with English players. E.G 'Green is a good English keeper.' Why the need for the English part? Does he get extra points fot being English?
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Re: Summer Transfer Thread 2011-2012

Postby Iron Mark on Wed Sep 07, 2011 3:29 pm

Have you considered West Ham fans are supporting Green?

Interesting that booers get stick but now it appears as though giving support to players can be bad as well...
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Re: Summer Transfer Thread 2011-2012

Postby D C on Wed Sep 07, 2011 3:34 pm

Supporting him is not calling him our best ever keeper, ****ing off Capello for dropping him when he should never have been near the England team in the first place and pretending our awful defence for the last 2 seasons was none of his fault and it was all that of the managers/defence.
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Re: Summer Transfer Thread 2011-2012

Postby Arch Dandy on Wed Sep 07, 2011 3:42 pm

Greens kicking is woeful in terms of accuracy and speed, he puts us under more pressure than any single outfield player as a result. He was at his best under Zola (IIRC) when he rolled the ball out.
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Re: Summer Transfer Thread 2011-2012

Postby bobd_uk on Wed Sep 07, 2011 3:50 pm

D C wrote:he should never have been near the England team in the first place


In an era where Stockdale, Fielding and Loach are in the top 5/6 keepers in the England squad, I'd say that's a bit harsh!
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Re: Summer Transfer Thread 2011-2012

Postby D C on Wed Sep 07, 2011 3:51 pm

bobd_uk wrote:
In an era where Stockdale, Fielding and Loach are in the top 5/6 keepers in the England squad, I'd say that's a bit harsh!


The World Cup was before this lot were anywhere near wasnt it? Yes.
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Re: Summer Transfer Thread 2011-2012

Postby Yea Why Not on Wed Sep 07, 2011 4:04 pm

D C wrote:I dont hate English players. I hate the west ham fans cumming over a bang average goalkeeper who wouldnt be worth the wages to the premiership clubs that have a worse keeper. He wouldnt get into most prem team, thats why no bids for him.

I didnt even mention where he's from. Your the one obsessed with English players. E.G 'Green is a good English keeper.' Why the need for the English part? Does he get extra points fot being English?


Yes he does get extra points for being English. We support an English football club with English owners, an English manager and very much an English squad. That is what I like the most about West Ham at the minute and I'm proud again to say I support the club

That sentiment might not mean much to you but it does to me. I'd personally never go to The Boleyn to cheer on 11 foreigners
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Re: Summer Transfer Thread 2011-2012

Postby D C on Wed Sep 07, 2011 4:10 pm

Good for you. That doesnt make him a less average keeper though. :thup:

Which is what people were talking about, his goalkeeping ability not his nationality.
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Re: Summer Transfer Thread 2011-2012

Postby Yea Why Not on Wed Sep 07, 2011 4:15 pm

An average English keeper is a hell of a lot better than an average foreign keeper :thup:
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Re: Summer Transfer Thread 2011-2012

Postby D C on Wed Sep 07, 2011 4:19 pm

Not if the average foreign keeper is on half the wage.
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Re: Summer Transfer Thread 2011-2012

Postby bobd_uk on Wed Sep 07, 2011 4:20 pm

D C wrote:The World Cup was before this lot were anywhere near wasnt it? Yes.


They were "near" it, even then due to the complete lack of English goalkeepers. For the WC, England had Hart, James and Green. Outside of that there was only Robinson, Carson and Foster. Obviously Hart is #1, but I don't think that Green is any worse than anyone else in that list. Before, during or after the WC.
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Re: Summer Transfer Thread 2011-2012

Postby bobd_uk on Wed Sep 07, 2011 4:20 pm

Yea Why Not wrote:An average English keeper is a hell of a lot better than an average foreign keeper :thup:


Why?
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Re: Summer Transfer Thread 2011-2012

Postby Yea Why Not on Wed Sep 07, 2011 4:23 pm

D C wrote:Not if the average foreign keeper is on half the wage.


I'm a supporter, not the club accountant
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Re: Summer Transfer Thread 2011-2012

Postby bobd_uk on Wed Sep 07, 2011 4:24 pm

Yea Why Not wrote:I'm a supporter, not the club accountant


And money saved somewhere leave the potential for it to be spent elsewhere.
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Re: Summer Transfer Thread 2011-2012

Postby Yea Why Not on Wed Sep 07, 2011 4:25 pm

bobd_uk wrote:Why?


For the reasons I gave 8 posts up
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Re: Summer Transfer Thread 2011-2012

Postby saludo de carlitos on Wed Sep 07, 2011 5:48 pm

Green is not average, he is outstanding and been our saviour many more times than he has made errors. Our most important player this season.
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