Develop the Chicken Run

[CockneyTurk]

I'm not particurly fussed about the OS, and can see the advantages of stratford, although those advantages may be at the expense of the ticket paying fan. But, lets be honest the magic of the Boleyn, even evening games has subsided somewhat over last few years.Seen Aldershot, Ipswich and Bristol City under the lights this year, all crap atmospheres in the home stands. (prob not helped by what we saw on pitch)
My question is. Having sat up in the now Alpini stand occasionally last season, I can't help noticing that the space is there so the chicken run could be built up move the pitch back over towards the West stand and putting the fans back on top of the players again. Taking me back to the days when West Ham esp under floodlights was a cauldron to play at and hopefully bring back some of that missing passion from the stands. Which is still there within us, go to an away game and feel it for yourself. Win, draw or get battered at Reading, We are loud and proud to be Irons.

[ParisTheHammer]

Better than that dome.

[pbenjy]

Surprising that no one has mentioned this before

http://www.kumb.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=39&t=135602

[AMC1964]

5........

[Iron-worx]

This is such a dead duck of a topic that it's unbelieveable....

It always comes down to there will never be planning permission for a crowd larger than forty two thousand three hundred and odd, the record highest attendance Vs Spurs in 1970, so no matter how large you build the Boleyn you cannot get more than 43'300 arses on seats.

And thats always end of discussion

[The Moth]

Why do we need more than 42,000?

[ageing hammer]

Why do we need more than 42,000?

Precisely, I would much prefer a full buzzing Bolyen than a third full OS.

[Denbighammer]

Why do we need more than 42,000?

There are many on here who seem to think we need a shiny new (athletics) stadium to move forward in a customer-centric, revenue increasing, blue sky thinking super-corporate fashion.

As ageing hammer says, I'd rather an excited, close to the pitch, full Boleyn than a half-empty, miles from the action, soulless athletics venue.

[Pedant]

1. Newham don't want any more development at UP
2. The Met don't want any more development at UP
3. TfL don't want any more development at UP
4. The Dave's....you get the picture.

Planning permission for the East Stand expired years ago.

From the Newham Core Stretegy:

"Elsewhere in Green Street, most change with scope for innovation will be focused along key routes and in tired post-war estates, with a more general emphasis on the enhancement of the residential environment, including the provision of new open space and protection of key local shopping parades. Longer term, the West Ham United FC site presents the opportunity to create an exemplar urban village development, incorporating high quality housing, community uses, and community green space linked to Priory Park."

This is the only mention of WHU in the strategy, aimed until 2027.

There will be no redevelopment of the Boleyn.

[stormbringer]

That really is a load of tosh .
If they wanted to they could redevlope the ground and the pitch could be moved nearer the West stand .A new east stand going back over the road now the bus garage has closed .Redevelope the corners ,50,000 no problem fans right up to the pitch ,great atmosphere. sorted.

[eastsider]

That really is a load of tosh .
If they wanted to they could redevlope the ground and the pitch could be moved nearer the West stand .A new east stand going back over the road now the bus garage has closed .Redevelope the corners ,50,000 no problem fans right up to the pitch ,great atmosphere. sorted.

50000 at the Boleyn!! GRIDLOCK!! 2hours to get into station!!??

Also as mentioned police council against and owners not interested....

Must say though that would be fantastic in theory ..... could it work??......
Are there any regulations on how near the pitch can be to the stands these days as all new football stadia seem to have quite large gaps from pitch to the seats??

[Pedant]

That really is a load of tosh .
If they wanted to they could redevlope the ground and the pitch could be moved nearer the West stand .A new east stand going back over the road now the bus garage has closed .Redevelope the corners ,50,000 no problem fans right up to the pitch ,great atmosphere. sorted.

You really don't know what you are talking about. Everything you have described was accommodated in Terry brown's original plan which had a max capacity, with corners filled, of 45,000 (42,000 without).

But the consent for the rest (East stand and corners) of that has expired.

And Newham do not want more development
The police etc etc

And Newham's sole reference to the area its its major planning document is not as "The Boleyn Ground" or "Upton Park" but as "The West Ham United FC site".

We are moving. Get used to it.

[paulhs1]

We are moving. Get used to it.

Although possibly not right now or even in the next 5 years.

[RyanWHUFC]

Not going to happen, the area just can't take anymore supporters.

[Pop Robson]

The present owners won't do it.

Will have to see what's next in their business plan if the OS doesn't happen.

The last plans were for 40,356

http://legacy.london.gov.uk/mayor/plann ... pendix.pdf

[eastsider]

The present owners won't do it.

Will have to see what's next in their business plan if the OS doesn't happen.

The last plans were for 40,356

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By the time the away support is segregated etc the actual attainable attendance would be under 40000.....

[The Rebirth]

Precisely, I would much prefer a full buzzing Bolyen than a third full OS.

Buzzing Boleyn pretty much a myth to new fans these days.

Unless you're in certain parts there is more life in a morgue.

Oh and David Gold said he will never consider the East Stand as it would be pouring money down the drain.

I think we can put this argument to rest!

[Pop Robson]

Do you really think that it will it be buzzing at the OS ?

Evenings like 14 April 1976 and 18 May 2004 will never happen again

West Ham v Barnsley coming up £15 a ticket, can't be any cheaper at the OS can it ?

[The Rebirth]

Do you really think that it will it be buzzing at the OS ?

Evenings like 14 April 1976 and 18 May 2004 will never happen again

West Ham v Barnsley coming up £15 a ticket, can't be any cheaper at the OS can it ?

Not exactly no depends what happens really we'll always have something a lot of teams don't a song which sing every game.

Pop if Corporate revenue brings in more than your average fan I think £20 a game isn't a bad deal.

I full expect more 'family' type deals or discount at Westfield or something. I think there will be incentives (possibly partnerships) to get many people to the ground to the shopping centre etc.

The Barnsley tickets are because its so close to Christmas? I think?

[Headtheball]

I agree on the Barnsley game. It's the last one before Xmas as we are away on Boxing day and New Year. Plus being an 'Xmas Cracker' game, at £15 it's a good deal. For me I was going back to London to see all my family and relatives the week before Xmas day and now I can go to see us play as well. Great Stuff. I am not the only one who's incorporated this thinking into their Xmas plans, cos the games a sellout. Well down the two Daves!