Retractable seating at the OS

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Re: Retractable seating at the OS

Postby Francoisvander or else on Thu Dec 22, 2011 12:22 am

Romford wrote:That's what I said - continuing upper tier down to pitch side will cover the current lower tier seats - the only tier designed to be permanent.


And they will need to be left there for the athletics meetings....the retractable seating will go over the top of the current lower tier[/quote]

there isn't enough height differential between the bottom of the top tier and pitch level. Just look at the distance between the boxes in the rio to the current pitch and compare that to the distance from where the upper tier ends at the Olympic Stadium and where pitchside at the Olympic Stadium would be and you can see the problem, the only way would be to have a lower tier that doesn't join the upper tier and leaves a large gap behind it otherwise those sitting in the lower tier will see **** all because the stand will be far to shallow

Looking at pictures of the 2 stadiums it would appear that their is roughly 25 rows of seats in the bootom tier at the Olympic Stadium which is less than the bottom tier of the Rio although seeing I don't sit their I am happy to be corrected
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Re: Retractable seating at the OS

Postby Pop Robson on Thu Dec 22, 2011 12:31 pm

There was something a while back about the rake of the lower tier being too low for football, not sure if it ever was confirmed though.
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Re: Retractable seating at the OS

Postby Napoleon Solo on Fri Dec 23, 2011 6:08 pm

I'm sure that Sullivan and Gold will convince everyone that a couple of temp stands will solve the problem
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Re: Retractable seating at the OS

Postby Hammer110 on Mon Dec 26, 2011 11:10 am

This is how things appear to stand at present, this is gather from various news reports and the OPLC site.

1. The OPLC will welcome bids or joint bids for the main tenancy of the stadium ie rugby and PL football as at the Liberty Stadium Swansea. Bids can be for sporting, entertainment and/or cultural events,(this suggests we may be able to bid on more than just football). More than one bid may be successful where they are do do not clash.
2. Bids can be for any length tenancy up to 99yrs on any terms, fixed rent, part rent part revenue share etc.
3. Naming rights may be shared with the main tenants (presumably based on how much exposure they bring).
4. OPLC expect retractable seating to be paid for by those that want it (could be a bargaining position).
5. OPLC will reserve XX number of days for athletics and other events, 2 years notice will be given for any events that effect the main tenants, ie major athletics Championships.
6. Newham will probably put in their £40 million and be joint overall managers with OPLC.
7. A separate tender will be put out to find someone to carry the day to day management of the stadium after the tenancy bids are concluded.
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Re: Retractable seating at the OS

Postby The Rebirth on Mon Dec 26, 2011 7:33 pm

Pop Robson wrote:There was something a while back about the rake of the lower tier being too low for football, not sure if it ever was confirmed though.

Bloke giving the tour on the Youtube video said something like that mate.
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Re: Retractable seating at the OS

Postby Doc H Ball on Mon Dec 26, 2011 11:46 pm

Hammer110 wrote:This is how things appear to stand at present....


I think you've missed a big question out. Will the 'retractable' seating have a roof? If so, who pays for it?
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Re: Retractable seating at the OS

Postby paulhs1 on Tue Dec 27, 2011 12:10 am

Hammer110 wrote:This is how things appear to stand at present, this is gather from various news reports and the OPLC site.

1. The OPLC will welcome bids or joint bids for the main tenancy of the stadium ie rugby and PL football as at the Liberty Stadium Swansea. Bids can be for sporting, entertainment and/or cultural events,(this suggests we may be able to bid on more than just football). More than one bid may be successful where they are do do not clash.
2. Bids can be for any length tenancy up to 99yrs on any terms, fixed rent, part rent part revenue share etc.
3. Naming rights may be shared with the main tenants (presumably based on how much exposure they bring).
4. OPLC expect retractable seating to be paid for by those that want it (could be a bargaining position).
5. OPLC will reserve XX number of days for athletics and other events, 2 years notice will be given for any events that effect the main tenants, ie major athletics Championships.
6. Newham will probably put in their £40 million and be joint overall managers with OPLC.
7. A separate tender will be put out to find someone to carry the day to day management of the stadium after the tenancy bids are concluded.

I think you'v covered most of it, but point 1 could turn into a legal issue as the OPLC have invited joint bids from both rugby and football clubs but it appears that Brady is under the impression that premier league clubs are no longer able to have their grounds used for both sports.
http://www.kumb.com/story.php?id=125879
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Re: Retractable seating at the OS

Postby Hammer110 on Tue Dec 27, 2011 12:28 pm

Hammer110 wrote:This is how things appear to stand at present....
Doc H Ball wrote:
I think you've missed a big question out. Will the 'retractable' seating have a roof? If so, who pays for it?


Nope not missed it at all, no one mentions it anywhere in any of the reports, so any questions concerning the covering of any retractable seating is pure speculation. What I have posted are as near to the facts as is publicly available.
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Re: Retractable seating at the OS

Postby Mr_Andersonn on Wed Dec 28, 2011 2:47 pm

Lets not forget there is going to be an extended roof installed at the OS.

I would say at this point there are no definitive plans set in place so lets wait and see.

Perhaps the extent of the roof is going to be a bargaining point for the anchor tenant!
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Re: Retractable seating at the OS

Postby Pop Robson on Thu Dec 29, 2011 11:07 am

Mr_Andersonn wrote:Lets not forget there is going to be an extended roof installed at the OS.

I would say at this point there are no definitive plans set in place so lets wait and see.

Perhaps the extent of the roof is going to be a bargaining point for the anchor tenant!


Has that been confirmed ?

£500M and the roof, seats, facilities all need extending or installing, sad to see it happening really
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Re: Retractable seating at the OS

Postby gavrosh on Thu Dec 29, 2011 11:58 am

Pop Robson wrote:Has that been confirmed ?

£500M and the roof, seats, facilities all need extending or installing, sad to see it happening really



Thank you, Ken Livingstone! Must be second only to the waste incurred in buying the bendy buses on which no-one ever paid their fare.
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Re: Retractable seating at the OS

Postby eastsider on Sun Jan 08, 2012 1:49 am

LATEST FROM INDEPENDENT NEWSPAPER


The Olympic Stadium will not be occupied by West Ham after the 2012 Games unless retractable seating is installed, according to the club's co-owner David Gold.

"We are not prepared to have fans sitting 60 yards from the pitch," he said. "We still want to move into the stadium but will not do so if the track remains uncovered. There has to be some form of retractable seating."

However, there is no provision to install seating of this natureby the Olympic Park Legacy Company. The deal to award West Ham the stadium collapsed last October when the OPLC ended negotiations.

The stadium remains in public ownership but talks on a new tenant will re-open this month.
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Re: Retractable seating at the OS

Postby Dyer's Leg on Sun Jan 08, 2012 12:41 pm

This is either the beginning of the get-out clause, or it's the Dave's trying to force the issue with OPLC.

I am hoping it's a get out clause.
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Re: Retractable seating at the OS

Postby m-h on Sun Jan 08, 2012 12:57 pm

Funny how sitting 60 yards from the pitch was not an issue originally...........if fact wasn't Brady saying
the exact opposite.

Now its a deal breaker unless somebody else pays for it. If we proceed with this OS bid, will someone be able to keep
tabs on how the monies are spent by the owners from the sale of the BG ?.

Funny old world.
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Re: Retractable seating at the OS

Postby RyanWHUFC on Sun Jan 08, 2012 1:13 pm

If this is true what's in The Independant today I am very happy, at last it seems as if they are recognising it isn't suitable for football, if we don't get the retractable seating we won't be moving.
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Re: Retractable seating at the OS

Postby Larry on Sun Jan 08, 2012 1:18 pm

Dyer's Leg wrote:This is either the beginning of the get-out clause, or it's the Dave's trying to force the issue with OPLC.

I am hoping it's a get out clause.



that makes 2 of us I was excited about the prospect of moving in to the O.S, but not now as there just seem to be far to many obstacles to over come if G & S, are seriously having2nd thoughts about moving there then we should pull out now before it's to late and start looking at the alternitives.
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Re: Retractable seating at the OS

Postby Happyhammer on Sun Jan 08, 2012 3:13 pm

I was not whole heartedly for the move, but know if clubs are to survive in the next decade, the need state of the art stadium with all the rail and road connection that are needed, so looks like spurs have done what they wanted stopped us from having it :x
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Re: Retractable seating at the OS

Postby Heysel76 on Sun Jan 08, 2012 3:45 pm

miami-hammer wrote:Funny how sitting 60 yards from the pitch was not an issue originally...........if fact wasn't Brady saying
the exact opposite.

Now its a deal breaker unless somebody else pays for it. If we proceed with this OS bid, will someone be able to keep
tabs on how the monies are spent by the owners from the sale of the BG ?.

Funny old world.


Maybe they had it planned before, but were trying to keep it from The Scum's attention, unfortunately (alledgedly) there were spies!
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Re: Retractable seating at the OS

Postby Mr_Andersonn on Sun Jan 08, 2012 3:50 pm

If we are going to sign a long term lease at this place to the tune of 99 years or more then isn't it worth us investing in state of the art retractable seating for the stadium?

I was of the understanding that we were always going to have to pay for the seating..

I know the goal posts have been moved in terms of the original deal, but if this is to be our home then surely we need to invest in it?

The chairnans comments would suggest otherwise.
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Re: Retractable seating at the OS

Postby Heysel76 on Sun Jan 08, 2012 3:58 pm

They also suggest there is a lot of political gesturing going on, prior to the "Auction"
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