All you need to know about West Ham United FC's potential move to Stratford.
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by StiffUpper on Sat Feb 18, 2012 7:54 pm
Hammer110 wrote:Minor drawback to using the warm-up track for either an athletics stadium or a new Boleyn, you cant hold major athletics events without an 8 lane 400m warm-up track.
After the games the warm up area will be used as some sort of depot while they build cross-rail. During the 2017 games they will build a replacement warm-up track between the stadium and the current-wrm-up track - just to the north of the sewerbank on the eastern side. Perhaps when cross-rail is built that land will be available again for a purpose built Athletics or Football ground?
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by Hammer110 on Sat Feb 18, 2012 8:08 pm
Didn't know that Stiffupper, another load of money wasted then if they bulldoze it then build another!
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by paulhs1 on Sat Feb 18, 2012 10:02 pm
Stiff upper....do you know when is the work on crossrail due to finish or when will they no longer require use of that area?
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by paulhs1 on Sun Feb 19, 2012 1:10 am
The Rebirth wrote: Considering the Hockey Stadium is only temporary build a stadium there. In fact a lot of the land has temporary structures for the games only?
Surely (I know Hearn is trying to get the Hockey Stadium land for free and has duly been told to **** off) we can work something out? That way they have their Olympic Legacy and warm up track and we move into another place in the park and the club keep all of the perks of moving to the site such as transport/infrastructure.
Or.....
Saying that with reference to the running track at the warmup track simply build over the Warmup track and install retractable seating from the off..
That way when major athletic competitions are due to be held we can roll the seats back and they can warm up there. Move in a Rugby club to the OS to keep it generating income (Saracens could be a good choice) everyone's a winner
Did I miss something here or did you just join the anti campaign........Surely your on a wind up mate 
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by The Rebirth on Sun Feb 19, 2012 2:27 am
paulhs1 wrote:Did I miss something here or did you just join the anti campaign........Surely your on a wind up mate 
I think you have misunderstood me. I am totally for moving to Stratford. Even the OS. I was just posting up my thoughts if the stadium is completely unviable.
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by StiffUpper on Sun Feb 19, 2012 5:49 pm
paulhs1 wrote:Stiff upper....do you know when is the work on crossrail due to finish or when will they no longer require use of that area?
Afraid not, sorry. Did some web searches and it would appear that the idea is that it would be used for handling rail freight in the future - though they were old documents. It's excluded from all the Olympic Park legacy plans I've seen. I would imagine that the planners would want a higher profile use, with the freight facilities to be put in a less prestigious location.
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by hadleighhammer on Sun Feb 19, 2012 8:52 pm
The Rebirth wrote:I was just posting up my thoughts if the stadium is completely unviable.
What would be the unviable criteria in your view?
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by Mr_Andersonn on Sun Feb 19, 2012 9:48 pm
On one of the Stadium forums somebody has suggested that they are going to change the design of the stadium.
It apparently is like a massive meccano kit that can be reconfigured to downsize it.
Make of it what you will.. Prob just idle chit chat.
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by The Rebirth on Mon Feb 20, 2012 12:29 am
hadleighhammer wrote: What would be the unviable criteria in your view?
1st thing is if absolutely nothing can be done with track. I've always maintained that they would do something with it and it is perfectly possible to make it work, but if they don't the club have always said they wouldn't move there anyway. 2nd thing would be the strict rules set out by the OPLC making the stadium unviable with naming rights and just being able booting us out whenever they like.
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by paulhs1 on Mon Feb 20, 2012 12:24 pm
The Rebirth wrote:1st thing is if absolutely nothing can be done with track. I've always maintained that they would do something with it and it is perfectly possible to make it work, but if they don't the club have always said they wouldn't move there anyway.
2nd thing would be the strict rules set out by the OPLC making the stadium unviable with naming rights and just being able booting us out whenever they like.
Well we know that retractable seating is possible but the problem will be the cost and who pays, also the situation re naming rights is not looking to good, mainly down to the fact that (and this is what will annoy our owners) we will probably not be involved in the negotiations with the new sponsor and will not be able to dictate any terms and instead may have to just take what we are given by the OPLC, who could be dealing with a number of tenants! Should our owners decide to build a fit for purpose football stadium at Stratford (that we own) which gives us sole access to naming right, events money and all other revenue streams then I think it will have the full backing of 99% of fans, infact I would be leading the campaign to get us there!
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by WHURS on Mon Feb 20, 2012 3:47 pm
Paulhs1
"also the situation re naming rights is not looking to good, mainly down to the fact that (and this is what will annoy our owners) we will probably not be involved in the negotiations with the new sponsor and will not be able to dictate any terms and instead may have to just take what we are given by the OPLC, who could be dealing with a number of tenants!"
I dont think there is any chance the OPLC negotiating a sponsorship deal without a main tennant already signed up, if that ends up being us I expect that we would have agreed a deal that would fit the revised (tennant based) business plan. To expect any sponsor esp a Blue chip one to buy into a goverment "legacy" is fanciful.
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by paulhs1 on Mon Feb 20, 2012 4:05 pm
WHURS wrote:Paulhs1
"also the situation re naming rights is not looking to good, mainly down to the fact that (and this is what will annoy our owners) we will probably not be involved in the negotiations with the new sponsor and will not be able to dictate any terms and instead may have to just take what we are given by the OPLC, who could be dealing with a number of tenants!"
I dont think there is any chance the OPLC negotiating a sponsorship deal without a main tennant already signed up, if that ends up being us I expect that we would have agreed a deal that would fit the revised (tennant based) business plan. To expect any sponsor esp a Blue chip one to buy into a goverment "legacy" is fanciful.
Fair point although they are advertising the naming rights now with a view to finding a sponsor by May with the decision for who will be tenant being announced at the same time, if the OPLC find a willing sponsor now then the negotiations would be taken out of our hands, which was the point I was making!
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by Luke (THFC) on Mon Feb 20, 2012 5:07 pm
paulhs1 wrote:On that basis, Seb Coe and co have truelly fucekd up any real chance of legacy at Stratford then...UKA can always sod off to the Terence Macmillan stadium?!
Unless the hockey pitch can be made into the warm up track!
Some of the ideas on here are starting to sound remarkably like the one that THFC outlined in their bid.... You know the bid that was completely unacceptable as it involved the Olympic stadium losing it's athletics legacy and this was something that Gold, Sullivan and Brady dearly wanted to protect! 
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by paulhs1 on Mon Feb 20, 2012 5:11 pm
Luke (THFC) wrote:Some of the ideas on here are starting to sound remarkably like the one that THFC outlined in their bid.... You know the bid that was completely unacceptable as it involved the Olympic stadium losing it's athletics legacy and this was something that Gold, Sullivan and Brady dearly wanted to protect! 
Personally I have never given a s#it about the athletics legacy, I just want us to play in a football stadium!
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by Georgee Paris on Mon Feb 20, 2012 5:44 pm
Luke (THFC) wrote:Some of the ideas on here are starting to sound remarkably like the one that THFC outlined in their bid.... You know the bid that was completely unacceptable as it involved the Olympic stadium losing it's athletics legacy and this was something that Gold, Sullivan and Brady dearly wanted to protect! 
THFC's bid was mainly unacceptable because it involved your bunch of hypocrites up rooting your North London club and plonking itself slap bang in East London. No one would deny your plans for a stadium looked terrific all be it with a stupid cock on a ball emblazoned all over the shop. As for starting to sound...I'm sure a fair few of the anti move brigade would still prefer your lot to take over the site rather than us move and most of them have had this view since day one.
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by uptonparkhurst on Mon Feb 20, 2012 8:17 pm
Luke (THFC) wrote:Some of the ideas on here are starting to sound remarkably like the one that THFC outlined in their bid.... You know the bid that was completely unacceptable as it involved the Olympic stadium losing it's athletics legacy and this was something that Gold, Sullivan and Brady dearly wanted to protect!
The Spuds' wizard scheme involved demolishing a brand new multi-million pound stadium - the politicians were never going to stand for that because it would highlight how thoroughly they have mismanaged the stadium project from start to finish. Also IIRC Sir Ian Blair voiced concerns about hooliganism that would arise from one team moving into another team's heartland. Only scumbag owners would ever consider such a move in the first place; I am sure you are right when you suspect that Levy never ever intended to properly consult the Spud fans.
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by taffhammer on Tue Feb 21, 2012 12:20 pm
Luke (THFC) wrote:Some of the ideas on here are starting to sound remarkably like the one that THFC outlined in their bid....! 
you quite right apart from the fact that your club wanted to demolish ,rebuild and screw the legacy where as our club wants to adapt for football.IMO If it's not adaptable due to cost we won't go there. Maybe it could have been with a little help from Boris or Newham but that would be unfair to the other clubs we compete with. So best to leave it to chance and potentially the country could waste what could be a great stadium.
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by Hindley Hammer on Tue Feb 21, 2012 12:30 pm
There must be something wrong with my PC as I cannot see the pictures.
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by Wembley1966 on Tue Feb 21, 2012 1:10 pm
Here you go Hindley - they've nearly finished the accommodation for the Dale Farm folks on the outside concourse: 
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by Hindley Hammer on Tue Feb 21, 2012 1:12 pm
Thanks very much. I was thinking I had a problem as the title implies that it is a picture thread 
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