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Re: Captain Kevin Nolan

Postby Cuenca 'ammer on Thu Mar 29, 2012 9:06 pm

Reckon you had better slow down a bit mate......

:lol:

Me ? I am having a cuppa (Te Ingles) watching the Schalke/Bilbao game on the laptop....

That beer sounds mighty tempting but I'm off alcohol for 3 months, docs orders. Just as I'm going back to the land of Micro Brews !!

waa !! waaaaaaaaaaaaaaa !!
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Re: Captain Kevin Nolan

Postby Tonto on Thu Mar 29, 2012 9:09 pm

I would play Cole and Nolan up front and have a more traditional midfield. Nolan offers nothing as a midfielder but he does as a leader and goalscorer and he can do both as a striker. Cole might even learn how to attack and head the ball with Nolan as a partner. They are our leading scorers so play them up front together. We have a quality midfield without Nolan.
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Re: Captain Kevin Nolan

Postby Hockley Hammer on Fri Mar 30, 2012 8:54 am

Cuenca 'ammer wrote:Reckon you had better slow down a bit mate......


Should have listened to you. Lost track of time, left pub in a rush, fell sound asleep on the train and got home and found i'd lost my mobile

I can't help holding Captain Kev responsible :D
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Re: Captain Kevin Nolan

Postby rare as rockinghorse shat on Fri Mar 30, 2012 9:23 am

Ouston

People on here were praising Nolan for a good game and a world class effort on goal.

Why did you bring up the fact he didn't score and give some comical analogy that a great effort means nothing without a goal?
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Re: Captain Kevin Nolan

Postby Yea Why Not on Fri Mar 30, 2012 9:36 am

rare as rockinghorse shat wrote:Why did you bring up the fact he didn't score?


Probably because its all he does 8-)
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Re: Captain Kevin Nolan

Postby Cuenca 'ammer on Fri Mar 30, 2012 3:10 pm

RARS

You missed the smiley and the irony that unfortunately we didn't see it because it was on the radio. And I'm about 10K miles away from watching you disappear under the weight of celebrating fans.....

:wink:

You lost your sensayuma there the other day I reckon. Hope you found it again....
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Re: Captain Kevin Nolan

Postby rare as rockinghorse shat on Fri Mar 30, 2012 3:43 pm

There's always the dig, the pop, then the wink though, isn't there?
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Re: Captain Kevin Nolan

Postby RM6 on Fri Mar 30, 2012 3:50 pm

Cuenca 'ammer wrote:You missed the smiley and the irony that unfortunately we didn't see it because it was on the radio. And I'm about 10K miles away from watching you disappear under the weight of celebrating fans.....


http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/17542151#asset

Around 1 min 57 if you can watch it there.
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Re: Captain Kevin Nolan

Postby Cuenca 'ammer on Fri Mar 30, 2012 4:24 pm

RM

Cheers but available to UK viewers only.

RARS

I have made a point of saying that no, I don't think he's the dogs bollcks and no I don't think the team should be set up around him etc. etc. etc. For someone of his "quality" playing in the position he does, with the amount of "chances" we create (a la BFS) 10 goals is a piss poor return. He isn't asked to do much more than get up alongside Cole (or whomever) and put the ball into the net. That's it.

So no, sorry, as I said to Carnage, he's obviously a good skipper from the other players perspective, BFS bought him and will play him come Hell or High Water no matter. I have stated when he plays well I give him grudging credit, but credit him I do. As you know I was in your camp with BFS early doors and got into many arguments with others who didn't want him. Can I change my mind or is that not a possibility. I'm all for giving people time, I never once begged for AG to be sacked nor do I BFS. I admit I was hoodwinked. I actually believed in his "two formations" "knows the history of the club" etc. etc. etc. bollcks. I should have known better. But that's fine, I admit he is where his remit says we should be. I have stated that many times. I don't know what else I can do. I am not going to suddenly jump on the Kevin Nolan is the dogs danglies bandwagon. Our team isn't a great fit for him and we need to buy 2 wide players with decent crossing ability and/or an attacking midfield player with creativity. All to suit his playing preferred position. Oh and a decent lump of a forward who can win the ball in the air. So let's get 3 or 4 new players in to accommodate the skipper.
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Re: Captain Kevin Nolan

Postby rare as rockinghorse shat on Fri Mar 30, 2012 4:28 pm

Ouston

I'm not interested in all that or what you think of him as a player and his role in the team.
We know.


Again, all I'm asking is why did you feel the need to - when everyone was praising his brilliant effort on goal - bring something negative up and make it a disguised pithy dig at him, by stating that he didn't score and that scratching an arse is not the same as pulling a lump out of it... as if to say 'what's the use of great efforts when he didn't score'.

Wink/smileywinkything/lolz or whatever at the end of the post as usual, or not.
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Re: Captain Kevin Nolan

Postby upton o'good on Fri Mar 30, 2012 4:32 pm

Cuenca 'ammer wrote:RM

Cheers but available to UK viewers only.

RARS

I have made a point of saying that no, I don't think he's the dogs bollcks and no I don't think the team should be set up around him etc. etc. etc. For someone of his "quality" playing in the position he does, with the amount of "chances" we create (a la BFS) 10 goals is a piss poor return. He isn't asked to do much more than get up alongside Cole (or whomever) and put the ball into the net. That's it.

So no, sorry, as I said to Carnage, he's obviously a good skipper from the other players perspective, BFS bought him and will play him come Hell or High Water no matter. I have stated when he plays well I give him grudging credit, but credit him I do. As you know I was in your camp with BFS early doors and got into many arguments with others who didn't want him. Can I change my mind or is that not a possibility. I'm all for giving people time, I never once begged for AG to be sacked nor do I BFS. I admit I was hoodwinked. I actually believed in his "two formations" "knows the history of the club" etc. etc. etc. bollcks. I should have known better. But that's fine, I admit he is where his remit says we should be. I have stated that many times. I don't know what else I can do. I am not going to suddenly jump on the Kevin Nolan is the dogs danglies bandwagon. Our team isn't a great fit for him and we need to buy 2 wide players with decent crossing ability and/or an attacking midfield player with creativity. All to suit his playing preferred position. Oh and a decent lump of a forward who can win the ball in the air. So let's get 3 or 4 new players in to accommodate the skipper.


But it just isnt true that Nolan is played that far up the pitch. He probably should be, but actually he plays a lot deeper, and that restricts his chances, and the no of goals. On Tues, the midfielder who appeared to have most licence to support Cole was O'Neill with Nobel and Nolan deeper - go figure... Piss poor return? Have you watched the guy's finishing - it is absolutely top-notch.

As for him requiring us to buy wingers - presumably you think investing in some wingers a bad idea? Surely that is importnat either way, when otherwise Jack Collison and Faubert are the answer?

What we really need because we have Nolan- is a really top defensive midfielder to give Nolan the freedom to get fwd more (and possibly get Noble in a position to play more damaging passes while we are at it).

I think you are just blaming Nolan for the fact that Sam has no desire to play 4-4-2.
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Re: Captain Kevin Nolan

Postby Cuenca 'ammer on Fri Mar 30, 2012 4:41 pm

10 goals in 35 odd games would seem to disprove that. Cole has 9 and check on the sell Cole thread. Most would get rid.
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Re: Captain Kevin Nolan

Postby Muddy on Fri Mar 30, 2012 4:44 pm

The new Scott Parker in terms of pictures, look at this haha :lol:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kevin_Nolan
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Re: Captain Kevin Nolan

Postby upton o'good on Fri Mar 30, 2012 4:45 pm

Tonto wrote:I would play Cole and Nolan up front and have a more traditional midfield. Nolan offers nothing as a midfielder but he does as a leader and goalscorer and he can do both as a striker. Cole might even learn how to attack and head the ball with Nolan as a partner. They are our leading scorers so play them up front together. We have a quality midfield without Nolan.


or certainly in the hole behind the striker... Would mean Nolan would be close enough to 2encourage" Cole / Maynard / whoever
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Re: Captain Kevin Nolan

Postby Cuenca 'ammer on Fri Mar 30, 2012 7:11 pm

Maybe Sam isn't getting the best out of his squad after all ????
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Re: Captain Kevin Nolan

Postby Pop Robson on Sat Mar 31, 2012 7:26 pm

The Captain that never took over when Noble went off today :thdn:

Bumped into an ex-WHU player after the game, he's not a fan of Nolan and don't like him anyway going back to 2003 and Nolan's behaviour after the 0-1 defeat to Bolton.
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Re: Captain Kevin Nolan

Postby Hockley Hammer on Sat Mar 31, 2012 7:34 pm

Cuenca 'ammer wrote:Maybe Sam isn't getting the best out of his squad after all ????


I just don't know anymore. We are the only team in football who could have gone in at half time the way we did from where we stood in the 43rd minute.

I wish he did make us play like Bolton. Because I never saw anything like that from Bolton. Bolton would have gone in 1-0 up and played the most boring 45 minutes ever and got a result.

Just when you think this club can't surprise you any more.
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Re: Captain Kevin Nolan

Postby hornsey on Sat Mar 31, 2012 7:37 pm

great work for the first goal
almost created a second if Taylor would have pulled his finger out

Battled hard second half must be hard when they pair you with a defender and ask you to push up to a donkey
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Re: Captain Kevin Nolan

Postby bubbles1966 on Sat Mar 31, 2012 7:41 pm

Hockley Hammer wrote:I just don't know anymore. We are the only team in football who could have gone in at half time the way we did from where we stood in the 43rd minute.


Some people seem reluctant to accept that we lost the game before half time. Those two goals - a succession of errors by heavily lauded players (and Faubert) - dictated all that followed.

Allardyce's big problems as far as I can see are:

a) Right Back - he's signed two injury prone ones. JOB has done a fair turn - but Demel has been a shocker. Faubert is a risk.

b) Defensive midfield - again....he needs the insurance because our technical players will eventually get overpowered - as they did this afternoon - by a more physical team.

c) Target Man -keeping Carew and shipping Piqionne is a mistake. Piq is more adept - for all his faults - at doing this job for us.
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Re: Captain Kevin Nolan

Postby Morocco Mole on Sat Mar 31, 2012 7:54 pm

Nolan was excellent first half....
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