Idiot Amnesty Pt.II

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Re: Idiot Amnesty Pt.II

Postby Burningaham on Wed Apr 11, 2012 12:56 pm

should have gone to specsavers. I have no idea what to do about it.
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Re: Idiot Amnesty Pt.II

Postby Dover KUMB fan on Wed Apr 11, 2012 1:00 pm

You need a garage to drain out your tank. Fuel system probably needs a good flushing out (Unless you never started the car). Not a cheap fook up I'm afraid if you did.
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Re: Idiot Amnesty Pt.II

Postby BSB1 on Wed Apr 11, 2012 1:01 pm

Burningaham wrote:should have gone to specsavers. I have no idea what to do about it.


If you've got the AA they do a call out service for about £180. Drain, flush and off you go. It's done by the normal repair men so you shouldn't have to wait too long.

Had to do the same when my missus put unleaded in our diesel, and managed to drive it 20 odd miles.
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Re: Idiot Amnesty Pt.II

Postby White Goodman on Wed Apr 11, 2012 1:04 pm

Standing at Fenchurch St station last night around 6pm with it absolutely hosing down.

Are not the overhead wires live and certain of the rails on various lines? If so, why don't they react quite badly when rained upon?
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Re: Idiot Amnesty Pt.II

Postby RichieRiv on Wed Apr 11, 2012 1:07 pm

BSB1 wrote:In theory you could turn up at the BOE and exchange your paper for gold.


Yes, you're right, in the beginning, banknotes were effectively receipts, however not any more. No major international currency is backed by a precious metal. So the BofE would tell you to do one.

There is also a school of thought that says that if all those that have invested their money in gold, but leave the bullion deposited in a vault, were to claim their gold, there wouldn't be enough to go around. Effectively you're buying a piece of paper that says you own gold that doesn't exist.
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Re: Idiot Amnesty Pt.II

Postby BSB1 on Wed Apr 11, 2012 1:17 pm

RichieRiv wrote:
Yes, you're right, in the beginning, banknotes were effectively receipts, however not any more. No major international currency is backed by a precious metal. So the BofE would tell you to do one.

There is also a school of thought that says that if all those that have invested their money in gold, but leave the bullion deposited in a vault, were to claim their gold, there wouldn't be enough to go around. Effectively you're buying a piece of paper that says you own gold that doesn't exist.


Bit like the conspiracy theory that the Fed doesn't have any gold in it's vaults. :lol:
The same thing can and does happen in most physical markets though where the sellers don't hold what they are selling. They either bust themselves covering the short or default on the position. Had a couple of such instances when working for an LME firm.
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Re: Idiot Amnesty Pt.II

Postby Kent Bubble Blower on Wed Apr 11, 2012 1:23 pm

White Goodman wrote:Standing at Fenchurch St station last night around 6pm with it absolutely hosing down.

Are not the overhead wires live and certain of the rails on various lines? If so, why don't they react quite badly when rained upon?

Because the rain isn't enough to either short the cables/rails to earth or each other. This would only happen if the rain was a continuous stream of water, in which case you'd probably have more to worry about than just the power lines.
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Re: Idiot Amnesty Pt.II

Postby White Goodman on Wed Apr 11, 2012 1:26 pm

Kent Bubble Blower wrote:Because the rain isn't enough to either short the cables/rails to earth or each other. This would only happen if the rain was a continuous stream of water, in which case you'd probably have more to worry about than just the power lines.


Oh right, so it would actually have to be one continuous stream of water like you'd get from a tap say?
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Re: Idiot Amnesty Pt.II

Postby Kent Bubble Blower on Wed Apr 11, 2012 1:34 pm

Theoretically you could have a complete circuit to ground through the wet poles or supports that hold the cables/rails in place but the are supported by insulators that are designed to keep the chances of a flashover to a minimum so, yes, in order for water to have a detrimental effect on power lines, third rails, etc, it would need to be a continuous body between the conductor and earth or another conductor.

Floods, obviously, cause problems where there are live rails because the water is at a high enough level to short the rail to earth.
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Re: Idiot Amnesty Pt.II

Postby BSB1 on Wed Apr 11, 2012 1:35 pm

White Goodman wrote:
Oh right, so it would actually have to be one continuous stream of water like you'd get from a tap say?


Yes. I learn't the hard way by pissing on an electric fence once. :lol:
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Re: Idiot Amnesty Pt.II

Postby White Goodman on Wed Apr 11, 2012 1:36 pm

Kent Bubble Blower wrote:Theoretically you could have a complete circuit to ground through the wet poles or supports that hold the cables/rails in place but the are supported by insulators that are designed to keep the chances of a flashover to a minimum so, yes, in order for water to have a detrimental effect on power lines, third rails, etc, it would need to be a continuous body between the conductor and earth or another conductor.

Floods, obviously, cause problems where there are live rails because the water is at a high enough level to short the rail to earth.


Ta :thup:
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Re: Idiot Amnesty Pt.II

Postby Burningaham on Wed Apr 11, 2012 7:23 pm

Dover KUMB fan wrote:You need a garage to drain out your tank. Fuel system probably needs a good flushing out (Unless you never started the car). Not a cheap fook up I'm afraid if you did.


£77 for the fuel in the first place
£185 plus VAT to take it out clean filters etc.
£105 to fill it back up again.

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Re: Idiot Amnesty Pt.II

Postby Pocket Pardew on Wed Apr 11, 2012 7:59 pm

orbital wrote:Have any of the poster's on this thread heard of Google??



I have. It's the worlds most popular Internet search engine. Try googling it if you need any further information.
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Re: Idiot Amnesty Pt.II

Postby Dyer's Leg on Wed Apr 11, 2012 8:01 pm

White Goodman wrote:
Oh right, so it would actually have to be one continuous stream of water like you'd get from a tap say?


BSB1 wrote:Yes. I learn't the hard way by pissing on an electric fence once. :lol:


That's just shocking.
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Re: Idiot Amnesty Pt.II

Postby mushy on Wed Apr 11, 2012 8:44 pm

White Goodman wrote:Oh right, so it would actually have to be one continuous stream of water like you'd get from a tap say?


So, why doesnt the electricity arc towards you when you are wet?
I heard of a bloke who was a good twenty feet away from a railway overhead wire, carrying a scafolding pole, the electricity arced onto the poll and killed him. Surely if you are soaking wet you are a better conductor of electricity then a metal pole?
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Re: Idiot Amnesty Pt.II

Postby WHU_Del on Wed Apr 11, 2012 8:48 pm

Twenty feet? :shock:
Regulations say that safe working distance is half of that (3m or ten feet).
If you look on a train that runs under overhead lines, just about where the roof curves down to meet the sides, you'll see a thin orange stripe. That's the safe working limit, no-one (or their tools) should be above that line when the current is on.
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Re: Idiot Amnesty Pt.II

Postby RM6 on Wed Apr 11, 2012 9:23 pm

White Goodman wrote:
Oh right, so it would actually have to be one continuous stream of water like you'd get from a tap say?


Basically, yes.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=y2pn9UsXWMk
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Re: Idiot Amnesty Pt.II

Postby RM6 on Wed Apr 11, 2012 9:25 pm

mushy wrote:So, why doesnt the electricity arc towards you when you are wet?
I heard of a bloke who was a good twenty feet away from a railway overhead wire, carrying a scafolding pole, the electricity arced onto the poll and killed him. Surely if you are soaking wet you are a better conductor of electricity then a metal pole?


As I understand it it's not how good the conductor is but rather the quickest route to ground.
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Re: Idiot Amnesty Pt.II

Postby dodgy dave on Wed Apr 11, 2012 9:28 pm

Pocket Pardew wrote:
I have. It's the worlds most popular Internet search engine. Try googling it if you need any further information.



Do not Google the word "Google" you will break the the internet
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Re: Idiot Amnesty Pt.II

Postby Welsh Iron on Wed Apr 11, 2012 10:15 pm

How do lesbians know when to stop? Is it when the batteries run out?
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