Idiot Amnesty Pt.II

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Re: Idiot Amnesty Pt.II

Postby Dyer's Leg on Mon Apr 23, 2012 7:51 am

Mushy,

it's to prevent another storm surge going up-stream like there was back in 1953, which flooded as far up as the capital, and left 58 people dead on Canvey Island.

The report following the North Seads flood as it is known, was what prompted the design and building odf the worlds 2nd largest movable flood barrier.
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Re: Idiot Amnesty Pt.II

Postby sendô on Tue Apr 24, 2012 5:24 pm

Here's one, although I suspect I know the answer.

Die Hard 2:Die Harder. Great film I'm sure we'll all agree, brilliant storyline, believable from start to finish with completely plausible actions and reactions from the main characters.

However one thing bugs me. The bit where the planes are circling overhead and Alan Rickman's cousin or whoever he is pretends to be the tower to one of the planes (You remember, the British plane, Windsor Airways or some other such annoying stereotypical wanky posh name. "We're just like British Rail love". **** off. Anyway I digress). He resets ground level at -200m (or feet most likely as the septics are backwards and can't compute in fractions of 10) in order to cause the plane to crash. Anyway, I always thought that all aircraft, large passenger planes especially (even back then) had altimeters etc on them so that they knew themselves just how high up they were whilst flying blind in a storm? If this is the case then how can it come as a surprise when the ground suddenly jumps up at them?

Is it possible that the makers of Die Hard 2 Die Harder took some liberties with certain facts of aviation?
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Re: Idiot Amnesty Pt.II

Postby pablo jaye on Tue Apr 24, 2012 5:47 pm

Sendo ...are you suggesting that some artistic licence shenanigans was at play here?
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Re: Idiot Amnesty Pt.II

Postby BSB1 on Tue Apr 24, 2012 7:29 pm

sendô wrote:Here's one, although I suspect I know the answer.

Die Hard 2:Die Harder. Great film I'm sure we'll all agree, brilliant storyline, believable from start to finish with completely plausible actions and reactions from the main characters.

However one thing bugs me. The bit where the planes are circling overhead and Alan Rickman's cousin or whoever he is pretends to be the tower to one of the planes (You remember, the British plane, Windsor Airways or some other such annoying stereotypical wanky posh name. "We're just like British Rail love". **** off. Anyway I digress). He resets ground level at -200m (or feet most likely as the septics are backwards and can't compute in fractions of 10) in order to cause the plane to crash. Anyway, I always thought that all aircraft, large passenger planes especially (even back then) had altimeters etc on them so that they knew themselves just how high up they were whilst flying blind in a storm? If this is the case then how can it come as a surprise when the ground suddenly jumps up at them?

Is it possible that the makers of Die Hard 2 Die Harder took some liberties with certain facts of aviation?


It's because the plane was being flown by Leslie Nielsen and a blow-up co-pilot.
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Re: Idiot Amnesty Pt.II

Postby ageing hammer on Wed Apr 25, 2012 7:33 pm

sendô wrote:Here's one, although I suspect I know the answer.

Die Hard 2:Die Harder. Great film I'm sure we'll all agree, brilliant storyline, believable from start to finish with completely plausible actions and reactions from the main characters.

However one thing bugs me. The bit where the planes are circling overhead and Alan Rickman's cousin or whoever he is pretends to be the tower to one of the planes (You remember, the British plane, Windsor Airways or some other such annoying stereotypical wanky posh name. "We're just like British Rail love". **** off. Anyway I digress). He resets ground level at -200m (or feet most likely as the septics are backwards and can't compute in fractions of 10) in order to cause the plane to crash. Anyway, I always thought that all aircraft, large passenger planes especially (even back then) had altimeters etc on them so that they knew themselves just how high up they were whilst flying blind in a storm? If this is the case then how can it come as a surprise when the ground suddenly jumps up at them?

Is it possible that the makers of Die Hard 2 Die Harder took some liberties with certain facts of aviation?


Easily explained:
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Re: Idiot Amnesty Pt.II

Postby James P on Thu Apr 26, 2012 8:38 am

Do any countries still have non-decimalised currencies?
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Re: Idiot Amnesty Pt.II

Postby mushy on Thu Apr 26, 2012 8:48 am

Dyer's Leg wrote:Mushy,

it's to prevent another storm surge going up-stream like there was back in 1953, which flooded as far up as the capital, and left 58 people dead on Canvey Island.

The report following the North Seads flood as it is known, was what prompted the design and building odf the worlds 2nd largest movable flood barrier.


Yes I get this, but if the barrier is raised to prevent a storm surge going towards London, wont the barrier just push it all back towards the estuary-thus making it worse for those that live there?
I thought the barrier was there to prevent the City and the rest of London from flooding, or have I got this completely wrong?
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Re: Idiot Amnesty Pt.II

Postby Kent Bubble Blower on Thu Apr 26, 2012 10:07 am

sendô wrote:Die Hard 2:Die Harder...

The bit where the planes are circling overhead and Alan Rickman's cousin ... resets ground level at -200m in order to cause the plane to crash. Anyway, I always thought that all aircraft, large passenger planes especially (even back then) had altimeters etc on them so that they knew themselves just how high up they were whilst flying blind in a storm? If this is the case then how can it come as a surprise when the ground suddenly jumps up at them?

Is it possible that the makers of Die Hard 2 Die Harder took some liberties with certain facts of aviation?

You're not alone...
Plot hole: The terrorists some how raise the elevation of the airport in relation to the ILS (instrument landing system). This causes one of the jets to crash. The ILS glide slope is broadcast from a fixed antenna beside the runway, 1000 feet from the approach end. The glide slope is fixed at (usually) 3 degrees. Even if someone changed the slope (ie, degrees of slant), it would still terminate on the runway at the touchdown zone. Besides, the pilots have charts that give all pertinent information about the ILS and also have altimeters, radar altimeters, ground proximity warning systems (GPWS), and brains (duh). All of those systems listed are on board the aircraft, independent of the ground based systems. They would not have descended into the ground even if the terrorists had tampered with the ILS.

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Re: Idiot Amnesty Pt.II

Postby shammy on Thu Apr 26, 2012 10:12 am

James P wrote:Do any countries still have non-decimalised currencies?



Madagascar and Mauritania apparently. Also The kings Head in Islington still uses "Old money" tills.
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Re: Idiot Amnesty Pt.II

Postby Dyer's Leg on Thu Apr 26, 2012 11:38 am

Mushy, I think the flood defenses down river allow over-spill on to canvey marshes, purfleet, rainham etc. And also, places up stream are for more expendable if you like, than the centre of the economy and the government.
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Re: Idiot Amnesty Pt.II

Postby White Goodman on Thu Apr 26, 2012 11:43 am

If I drank loads of water until my bladder was full and I was dying for a piss and then exercised for hours in a hot room.

Would my body eventually take the water from my bladder to use (and hence I wouldn't feel like I needed a piss anymore) or once it's there can it not be utilised to hydrate the body?

I don't expect anyone to know the answer to this, just popped into my head last night.
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Re: Idiot Amnesty Pt.II

Postby Hammers Dad on Thu Apr 26, 2012 12:17 pm

White Goodman wrote:If I drank loads of water until my bladder was full and I was dying for a piss and then exercised for hours in a hot room.

Would my body eventually take the water from my bladder to use (and hence I wouldn't feel like I needed a piss anymore) or once it's there can it not be utilised to hydrate the body?

I don't expect anyone to know the answer to this, just popped into my head last night.


The bladder is designed to stop the re-absorbtion of urine, so I would suggest the answer is No
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Re: Idiot Amnesty Pt.II

Postby BSB1 on Thu Apr 26, 2012 12:29 pm

White Goodman wrote:If I drank loads of water until my bladder was full and I was dying for a piss and then exercised for hours in a hot room.

Would my body eventually take the water from my bladder to use (and hence I wouldn't feel like I needed a piss anymore) or once it's there can it not be utilised to hydrate the body?

I don't expect anyone to know the answer to this, just popped into my head last night.


What is it with you and water recently? :lol:

Hammers Dad wrote:The bladder is designed to stop the re-absorbtion of urine, so I would suggest the answer is No


So how comes if you were caught somewhere without water (lost at seas/desert) it's advisable to drink your own piss?
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Re: Idiot Amnesty Pt.II

Postby dodgy dave on Thu Apr 26, 2012 12:37 pm

BSB1 wrote:

So how comes if you were caught somewhere without water (lost at seas/desert) it's advisable to drink your own piss?


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Re: Idiot Amnesty Pt.II

Postby sendô on Thu Apr 26, 2012 12:39 pm

BSB1 wrote:So how comes if you were caught somewhere without water (lost at seas/desert) it's advisable to drink your own piss?

Urine is water plus all the nasty stuff your body doesn't want. Normally you don't want that stuff in your system so your body expels it via your bladder. If you are stranded with no water, it's either drink your own urine - nasty tasting water with added nasties - or dehydrate.

Of course it is up to you but making your kidneys work harder and having to suffer the taste of your own piss is probably preferable to dying of thirst?
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Re: Idiot Amnesty Pt.II

Postby Hammers Dad on Thu Apr 26, 2012 12:46 pm

Hammers Dad wrote:The bladder is designed to stop the re-absorbtion of urine, so I would suggest the answer is No

BSB1 wrote:
So how comes if you were caught somewhere without water (lost at seas/desert) it's advisable to drink your own piss?


Actually, it's not a good idea.
The urine contains numerous waste products. With a name such as "waste" it's stuff the body doesn't want or need. The best use for urine is as an external coolant (piss in a shirt and wrap it around your head for instance). Unless of course, you have a way of purifying the urine to rid is of the bad stuff and just leave the water behind. If you have a purifying method whilst lost at sea, use it for sea water.

For a desert situation, if you can find pebbles or small smooth rocks, and had some sort of non-absorbant material, you could place the stones/rock on it and wait until the early morning when condensation would gather on the stones and drip off into a puddle and use whatever gathers to hydrate. At least that's what I was told (or something similar) during one of my survival weekends playing soldiers.
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Re: Idiot Amnesty Pt.II

Postby White Goodman on Thu Apr 26, 2012 1:20 pm

What if I'm not stuck in a desert and just want to drink my own piss?
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Re: Idiot Amnesty Pt.II

Postby Monkey Mike on Thu Apr 26, 2012 1:27 pm

What if I'm sat at home and just want to drink my own piss?
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Re: Idiot Amnesty Pt.II

Postby Hammers Dad on Thu Apr 26, 2012 1:30 pm

Feel free, but I suggest you piss first, drink plenty of fluid (preferably water) and then piss and drink as it won't taste so bad as it will be hydrated properly. The darker the piss, the more dehydrated you are, the stronger the flavour it will have.
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Re: Idiot Amnesty Pt.II

Postby Dover KUMB fan on Thu Apr 26, 2012 1:42 pm

Cross your arms and make.....yourself a drink!
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