Rangers in administration (Non WHU)

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Re: Rangers in administration (Non WHU)

Postby Happyhammer52 on Thu Apr 26, 2012 2:33 pm

And the above is why the general Scottish fan would welcome the Old Firm leaving. They really are a bunch of idiots. The worrying thing is most of them believe they are still a 'Big Lure'.
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Re: Rangers in administration (Non WHU)

Postby Antwerp_Lad on Thu Apr 26, 2012 2:57 pm

Happyhammer52 wrote:And the above is why the general Scottish fan would welcome the Old Firm leaving. They really are a bunch of idiots. The worrying thing is most of them believe they are still a 'Big Lure'.


Erm... what ?
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Re: Rangers in administration (Non WHU)

Postby York Ham(mer) on Fri Apr 27, 2012 9:59 am

Now Ticketus has withdrawn funding from any takeover bid, presumably that's the Blue Knights, which makes a takeover more remote, I guess.
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Re: Rangers in administration (Non WHU)

Postby Antwerp_Lad on Fri Apr 27, 2012 10:57 am

York Ham(mer) wrote:Now Ticketus has withdrawn funding from any takeover bid, presumably that's the Blue Knights, which makes a takeover more remote, I guess.


probably, but on the other hand the two main bidders (Brian Kennedy and The Blue Knights consortium) have been having talks about putting in a joint bid.
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Re: Rangers in administration (Non WHU)

Postby QuintonNimoy on Fri Apr 27, 2012 11:04 am

York Ham(mer) wrote:Now Ticketus has withdrawn funding from any takeover bid, presumably that's the Blue Knights, which makes a takeover more remote, I guess.

As far as I know Ticketus have been trying to get themselves positioned as creditors (I'm not sure if they've succeeded) but their withdrawal from backing a takeover bid might indicate that they're confident they'll get that status (or something similar) and therefore expect to get a slice of whatever is left of the club even if it goes out of business or that they expect the club to survive in some form with their agreement intact. In those cases they wouldn't need to be part of a takeover to realise some return on their investment even if it's just to minimise losses. Of course there's no reason to assume that a takeover involving them wouldn't just gut the club to recoup losses anyway.

It's not likely they're just walking away from the whole thing.
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Re: Rangers in administration (Non WHU)

Postby vietnammer on Fri Apr 27, 2012 11:07 am

Happyhammer52 wrote:And the above is why the general Scottish fan would welcome the Old Firm leaving. They really are a bunch of idiots. The worrying thing is most of them believe they are still a 'Big Lure'.



Antwerp_Lad wrote:Erm... what ?


Makes perfect sense according to a couple of Scots fans I know. They reckon people got sick to death of the whole thing years ago.
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Re: Rangers in administration (Non WHU)

Postby Antwerp_Lad on Fri Apr 27, 2012 11:09 am

vietnammer wrote:Makes perfect sense according to a couple of Scots fans I know. They reckon people got sick to death of the whole thing years ago.


I know, but I fail to see what 'the above' has anything to do with it.
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Re: Rangers in administration (Non WHU)

Postby Wembley1966 on Fri Apr 27, 2012 11:15 am

No-one is going to put in a successful bid for the club - until it goes into liquidation.

Ticketus are just stalling any bid that comes along - they would be happy with liquidation and just want any club to play at Ibrox until they get their 100,000 season ticket sales to make their money, or get their money through the guarantees they have off Whyte when he sells Ibrox. They need Whyte still owning the club when it liquidates and that's why they'll talk to any potential bidder and then stop talking to them - they want to stall any potential bidder so that liquidation occurs before a successful bid can be made.

The American is rapidly backtracking and has realised the mess the club is in and also the problems he'll have with the fans if he liquidates first. Paul Murray is not serious - he doesn't have the money - where was he with the money before Whyte took over - all he is doing is posturing and trying to be seen as the good guy trying to save Rangers. He's trying to deflect the enormous sh*t that's going to hit any previous board member when the Big Tax Case verdict is announced.
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Re: Rangers in administration (Non WHU)

Postby Happyhammer52 on Fri Apr 27, 2012 11:46 am

Antwerp_Lad wrote:
I know, but I fail to see what 'the above' has anything to do with it.


Just the endless drivel, about threats etc. What in the name of Christ has it got to do with football? This situation is now boring, no one will take them over not a hope in hell.
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Re: Rangers in administration (Non WHU)

Postby Antwerp_Lad on Fri Apr 27, 2012 1:35 pm

The Blue Knights consortium have put in a bid, according to SSN.
Backed by Bill Kennedy.
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Re: Rangers in administration (Non WHU)

Postby Wembley1966 on Fri Apr 27, 2012 1:53 pm

Ally McCoist football video game contains 'tax dodge'

Game released ten years ago contains bizarre option for game players to avoid paying tax.

The field of football computer games is a hugely competitive sector, with games like the Football Manager franchise attracting fanatical support.

There have been numerous games throughout the history of the genre which have fallen by the wayside: Sierra's Ultimate Soccer Manager, Elite's Complete Onside Soccer and... Ally McCoist's Director of Football.

Released in 2001, the game allows you to manage some of the less glamorous sides of the game, including the expansion of your stadium, negotiating contracts and finding sponsorship. If you ever wanted to be part of the decision making process on the number of car parking spaces by your stadium, you genuinely can in this simulation.

However, given the current state of Rangers, McCoist may regret his name appearing on a game which appears to offer the opportunity for wannabe Directors of Football to avoid paying tax. At the end of each in-game season your club is presented with a tax bill, but you can decide to risk further repurcussions by only paying a fraction of the money owed.

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The screen reads: "You can reduce the amount of tax by 50 percent, at the risk of being caught and facing a large fine. Do you wish to adopt this tax evasion?"
http://sport.stv.tv/blog/305161-ally-mccoist-football-video-game-contains-tax-dodge/
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Re: Rangers in administration (Non WHU)

Postby Cuenca 'ammer on Fri Apr 27, 2012 2:38 pm

^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^


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Re: Rangers in administration (Non WHU)

Postby Cuenca 'ammer on Fri Apr 27, 2012 2:50 pm

I'm just off over to FollowFollow ~ if it hasn't melted down..

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Re: Rangers in administration (Non WHU)

Postby QuintonNimoy on Fri Apr 27, 2012 5:28 pm

Wembley1966 wrote:Ticketus are just stalling any bid that comes along...

Which might be another reason for their sudden departure from a group of bidders.
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Re: Rangers in administration (Non WHU)

Postby Cuenca 'ammer on Fri Apr 27, 2012 5:38 pm

How does that help them in the long run ??

cheers boys cracking info....
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Re: Rangers in administration (Non WHU)

Postby Wembley1966 on Fri Apr 27, 2012 6:08 pm

Antwerp_Lad wrote:And yeah, I heard about the threats, but so far nobody knows what kind of threats, through what medium, who they were directed to,...

http://www.raithrovers.net/2938/official-statement.htm

Official Statement from Raith Rovers

As a result of the participation of one of our Directors on an SFA panel, this football club finds itself now having to contend with various threats in the form of emails and telephone calls, during the build-up to an important SFL league match.

This club, along with every other club in the SPL and SFL, voted for change at last year’s AGM. Part of that change involved the setting up of a panel of individuals who would give of their time to better facilitate and judge on football issues affecting the game in Scotland.

Individuals who agreed to an involvement in that process now find themselves chased by the media, vilified by sections of the press, subjected to abuse and hate. If this is the consequence of participation, it is more than likely that many will wish to consider whether or not such participation is worth such a price.

This football club remains supportive of our Director’s involvement in what has turned out to be a fiasco. It is, however, incumbent on us as a football club to point out that we are NOT directly involved in the process per se. Threats to our staff, our infrastructure and our reputation is something we could well do without. So far this week significant additional costs have been incurred here at Kirkcaldy. Equally, tomorrow’s important game against our friends from Dumfries, will be subject to greater security and police presence than would otherwise be the norm.
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Re: Rangers in administration (Non WHU)

Postby QuintonNimoy on Fri Apr 27, 2012 7:39 pm

Cuenca 'ammer wrote:How does that help them in the long run ??

cheers boys cracking info....

More a case of someone getting sick of Ticketus and doing their own thing without them than them leaving the partnership willingly perhaps. Ticketus want to be recognised as a creditor so they can potentially block any CVA which any bidder will want to get, which would obviously give them a lot of say over what happens to the club. Without that getting involved in bids gives them influence. So it was the Blue Knights and Ticketus, now it's the Blue Knights and A.N.Other. Maybe Ticketus didn't need the Blue Knights any more, maybe the Blue Knights wanted shot of Ticketus for their bid, maybe they reached some kind of agreement.

There's a lot stil pending court action and legal arguments, still a lot of positioning. Even if a bid is accepted and completed it wouldn't be the end of Rangers' problems by a very long way.
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Re: Rangers in administration (Non WHU)

Postby Cuenca 'ammer on Fri Apr 27, 2012 8:46 pm

QN

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Re: Rangers in administration (Non WHU)

Postby York Ham(mer) on Fri Apr 27, 2012 11:17 pm

Here's tomorrow's Scotsman, confirming that Kennedy and Murray are working together. They have apparently lodged a bid conditional on a CVA being approved by the creditors and Craig Whyte's shares being acquired.

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Re: Rangers in administration (Non WHU)

Postby Cuenca 'ammer on Fri Apr 27, 2012 11:34 pm

Wonder if they think he'll sell them for the same quid he paid for them.

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