Now Hearn wants to ground share

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Re: Now Hearn wants to ground share

Postby HamburgHammer on Thu May 31, 2012 8:48 pm

So, let bloody Hearn groundshare if need be - he'll just sell Brisbane Road to fill his pockets and Orient will be finished as a club in 2-3 years time, as I cannot see them paying the rent for the OS, they may have to pay less than us, still I cannot imagine how the OS can work financially for Orient and their fanbase.

I now wish they would just announce their decision whatever it may be so we can then move on...
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Re: Now Hearn wants to ground share

Postby Doc H Ball on Thu May 31, 2012 8:48 pm

No, no end in sight.

2 years, 4 months 3 weeks and counting...
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Re: Now Hearn wants to ground share

Postby York Ham(mer) on Thu May 31, 2012 8:55 pm

From the Premier League Handbook Season 2011/12

SECTION I

GROUND CRITERIA

Ground Sharing
4. No Club shall have or enter into a ground-sharing agreement unless the agreement contains a legally enforceable provision to the effect that the playing of the Club’s League Matches shall always take precedence over the activities of the other party to the agreement.
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Re: Now Hearn wants to ground share

Postby the bubble hammer on Thu May 31, 2012 10:08 pm

My cousin's an O's season ticket holder! Lives in Barking.[/quote]

I know 5 season ticket holders for the O's. two live in canterbury, two live in rainham kent and the other now lives in dubai but still pays for a season ticket so the club gets funds. All from the same family they are fervant supporters. They do get brainwashed by Hearn though and have all spouted to me about us killing their club and no football club should be allowed in the stadium because of the track and all that. piss myself when i read that hearn now wants the O's in there as well and got straight on the blower to my mate to rip the s##t out of him.
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Re: Now Hearn wants to ground share

Postby Iron-worx on Thu May 31, 2012 10:35 pm

York Ham(mer) wrote:From the Premier League Handbook Season 2011/12

SECTION I

GROUND CRITERIA

Ground Sharing
4. No Club shall have or enter into a ground-sharing agreement unless the agreement contains a legally enforceable provision to the effect that the playing of the Club’s League Matches shall always take precedence over the activities of the other party to the agreement.


Right, that's the premier league....

If the football league have the equivalent of that in their rules then a ground share with Orient is totally impossible whoever might be in favour of it because it's simply not possible for both parties to have legal precedence over one another.

For that same reason it definitely rules out premier league teams sharing, so it totally rules out any possibility of sharing with Tottenham as has recently been suggested in this forum, and it raises the question of even if football league rules allowed Orient to share what would happen in the admittedly unlikely event that they ever won promotion to the premier league.

It might well be that our Barry hasn't thought this through very well at all :think:
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Re: Now Hearn wants to ground share

Postby paulhs1 on Fri Jun 01, 2012 9:53 am

Johnny Byrne's Boots wrote:The LLDC wouldn't care, but West Ham would. They can't dictate what each individual organisation puts in its bid, they can only decide which of the submitted bids they prefer. If West Ham don't submit a groundshare bid, it can't be forced on them.


But it's not West hams decision. The LLDC have been promoting the stadium as a community arena to be used for a number of uses and they are asking for interested parties to submit applications as such and so even if West Ham object, then I can't see that swaying the LLDC's decision. But if it does then can you imagine the fun that Hearne will have in the courts with us and the LLDC?

In any case im still not sure about the governments real intentions now, as other posters have said....after the olympics all bets are off!
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Re: Now Hearn wants to ground share

Postby HamburgHammer on Fri Jun 01, 2012 10:19 am

West Ham are not interested in ground sharing, so that means NO ONE can force us to do it. If the LLDC like Orient's application, plus a Cricket or Rugby team, then that's all very well. But I just wonder if it could work financial-wise with the OS if we pull out.

Leyton Orient, Essex Cricket, London Wasps or another Rugby side - will those clubs be in a position as tenants to provide the authorities with the kind of rent money that's needed to keep this stadium going ? I doubt it. The LLDC will have to walk the tightrope and make a very serious decision. If they want us in, fine, but on our terms. I cannot imagine Gold and Sullivan sitting down with Hearn and some rugby and cricket people discussing design of the stadium and sort out who's allowed to play there at what date...

The LLDC may yet mess this whole thing up (again), but I reckon Gold and Sullivan will tell them in no uncertain terms what to do when they ask us to move in together with Orient (plus maybe Essex Cricket and London Wasps).
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Re: Now Hearn wants to ground share

Postby paulhs1 on Fri Jun 01, 2012 10:27 am

HamburgHammer wrote:The LLDC may yet mess this whole thing up (again), but I reckon Gold and Sullivan will tell them in no uncertain terms what to do when they ask us to move in together with Orient (plus maybe Essex Cricket and London Wasps).


I'm not so sure....The club have said publicly that they will not ground share with a rugby club but privately :think:

Also, what would be the clubs arguement...We want it all to ourselves during the football season or not at all? If so then legally the LLDC may no choice than to reject West Hams bid!
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Re: Now Hearn wants to ground share

Postby ForeverHammers on Fri Jun 01, 2012 11:50 am

Club have just responded. BBC's Dan Roan reports...

West Ham statement says club "has not held talks with Leyton Orient in respect of ground-sharing nor is it our intention to do so"

West Ham don't wish to comment on "ever-changing position" of Barry Hearn but say his statements "provide us with constant amusement"
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Re: Now Hearn wants to ground share

Postby Monkey Mike on Fri Jun 01, 2012 12:56 pm

ForeverHammers wrote:Club have just responded. BBC's Dan Roan reports...

West Ham statement says club "has not held talks with Leyton Orient in respect of ground-sharing nor is it our intention to do so"

West Ham don't wish to comment on "ever-changing position" of Barry Hearn but say his statements "provide us with constant amusement"


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Re: Now Hearn wants to ground share

Postby Awbis on Fri Jun 01, 2012 1:08 pm

Note to PP

Premier league does not allow groundsharing, either between clubs or with other sports (this was brought in recently as Big uproar for wigan and reading)

As such stop fishing, you are too well informed to be offering that kind of spureous information.
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Re: Now Hearn wants to ground share

Postby York Ham(mer) on Fri Jun 01, 2012 1:12 pm

Iron-worx wrote:If the football league have the equivalent of that in their rules.....

The Football League Regulations

13. Registration of Ground

13.4 Ground sharing will only be approved at the discretion of the Board. The Board will not generally approve any ground-sharing arrangement where the club plays its matches outside the conurbation, as defined by the Board, from which the Club takes its name or with which it is otherwise traditionally associated.

13.5 Except in cases where a Club seeks consent to enter into a ground-sharing agreement with another Club, it shall be a condition of any such consent that the ground-sharing agreement shall contain provision to ensure that:

13.5.1 the playing of any of the Club's first team matches will always take precedence over the activities of the other party to the agreement; and

13.5.2 the Club shall have the ability to postpone other activities scheduled to take place on the pitch in the immediately preceding 48 hour period where in the opinion of the Club, acting reasonably, there is a risk that such activity may result in the subsequent postponement or abandonment of a match to be played under the auspices of the League.
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Re: Now Hearn wants to ground share

Postby Napoleon Solo on Fri Jun 01, 2012 1:43 pm

I 'm quite amazed that not one single person on this message board has figured out what Hearn is up to.

Then on the other hand, if everyone here blindly beleives every single word that Gold/Sullivan/Brady tell them then why should I be amazed

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Re: Now Hearn wants to ground share

Postby Mike420 on Fri Jun 01, 2012 1:48 pm

So spill the beans then what is he up to...
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Re: Now Hearn wants to ground share

Postby paulhs1 on Fri Jun 01, 2012 1:49 pm

Napoleon Solo wrote:I 'm quite amazed that not one single person on this message board has figured out what Hearn is up to.

Then on the other hand, if everyone here blindly beleives every single word that Gold/Sullivan/Brady tell them then why should I be amazed

:lol:


Not sure your right with your assessment there mister Solo!
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Re: Now Hearn wants to ground share

Postby Johnny Byrne's Boots on Fri Jun 01, 2012 1:50 pm

He's behaving like the conservationists who stop an entire housing scheme because they find a lesser spotted turd warbler on the site. He's doing what he's doing because he can. His ultimate aim is to be paid a lot of money to go away and stop bothering the grown-ups.
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Re: Now Hearn wants to ground share

Postby paulhs1 on Fri Jun 01, 2012 2:19 pm

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Re: Now Hearn wants to ground share

Postby Me ol china on Fri Jun 01, 2012 2:53 pm

What a response, ****ing love it

I might even pay 5% for 4 years for that response :lol:
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Re: Now Hearn wants to ground share

Postby Pop Robson on Fri Jun 01, 2012 3:53 pm

paulhs1 wrote:http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/18297392" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;


Another professional reply then !!!!!!!!!
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Re: Now Hearn wants to ground share

Postby paulhs1 on Fri Jun 01, 2012 4:10 pm

Pop Robson wrote:Another professional reply then !!!!!!!!!


I seriously wonder how the LLDC will take these comments Pop;

"We do not wish to comment on recent statements made by Barry Hearn not least because we can't keep up with his ever-changing position.

"They continue, however, to provide us with a constant source of amusement.'

Joking aside, it's not very professional as you said!
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