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by GingerJohn on Fri Jun 22, 2012 10:36 am
Up the Junction wrote:Farewell and good luck with everything, Mr Green - both on and off the field. The second best goalkeeper I've had the pleasure to watch at West Ham.
England could do a lot worse than stick you in goal should Sunday's game go to penalties. 
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by bspur1 on Fri Jun 22, 2012 12:13 pm
Ercans wrote:I think the people saying **** him, he's a **** etc are embarrassing. Green had no loyalty to the club- that went when he was playing out of his skin week in week out whilst the likes of ljungberg, dyer, McCarthy etc where picking up more than him for doing f all. If my employer were to do the same, I too would would be pissed off. 
on the other hand , he is on or more than double Noble, Collison,Cole and Tomkins if everyone has a cry because someone somewhere is on more than them, fact is we had the 6th or 7th highest paid team and were the worst in the league. The lot of them were overpaid, Green was on a lot more than keepers from other teams doing a lot better in the league than us. So he shouldnt be feeeling to sorry for himslef
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by markmc on Fri Jun 22, 2012 12:43 pm
Would have loved him to be there next season but he had other ideas and has now joined a club competing against us, doesn't make sense at all, thanks for the last 6 odd years and we all move on...would be a wish come true to do the double on the QPR which I think we are capable of and then have the last laugh... 
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by Hockley Hammer on Fri Jun 22, 2012 1:59 pm
bspur1 wrote:on the other hand , he is on or more than double Noble, Collison,Cole and Tomkins
if everyone has a cry because someone somewhere is on more than them, fact is we had the 6th or 7th highest paid team and were the worst in the league. The lot of them were overpaid, Green was on a lot more than keepers from other teams doing a lot better in the league than us. So he shouldnt be feeeling to sorry for himslef
Not digging you out specifically bspur1 but you responded to one of my posts in a similar way, you claim to know the figures here and if you are speaking from authority then fair play, but I do tend to treat information about player contracts with a bit of cynicism. I was told by somebody who really could know that Greeno was on a ridiculously low salary and I didn't believe that either. However I was told at the game where Tomkins contract extension was announced (Millwall at home?) that that was the straw that broke the camel's back with Green as he had been told there would be no contract extensions discussed during the season , everything would wait till the end of the season. He saw that as another slight by the board. I noticed a distinct change in his demeanour since that game. I happen to agree that in our current state Paying Green £50k a week is excessive, but I don't believe he was adequately rewarded for his contribution in the last few seasons compared to a fair number of players and more importantly that must have been how he felt.
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by Iron Heart on Fri Jun 22, 2012 2:44 pm
Like it or not 6 years is up there as long service in this day and age, especially at a club that isn't winning trophies. I for one am sad to see Green go and think he's one of the better keepers in the country. I wish him all the best for the rest of his career and will look back on his time with us fondly.
That said, I do think it's an odd move. It's certainly not an upward move, which begs the question money? Maybe, or maybe he and his family are settled and this is an option that gives him a change of scenery without the upheaveal of moving house too.
I think the error at the 2010 world cup made other potential bidders at that time think twice, which has benefitted us over the last two years. He will no doubt benefit QPR now and earn them a few extra points next season. I hope it's enough for them to survive, for his sake.....but not at our expense.
Good luck Greeno, thanks for the memories.
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by hadleighhammer on Fri Jun 22, 2012 5:21 pm
Wish the bloke well on his move. Gave his all in 6 years. Could have conceivably been HOTY last season.
For whatever reason we couldn't hold onto him, it will be interesting to see if we bring in an at least equal replacement as we step up a division. So far I'm concerned we haven't and his loss is being far too easily shrugged off on here, but time will tell.
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by speculator on Fri Jun 22, 2012 5:48 pm
Thanks Rob Green, on his day the best shot stopper I've seen. I don't blame him for leaving as the club has never paid him what he's worth. I can't see this new keeper being fit to tie his boots, but there you go - West Ham always a one step forward two back club.
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by cockney hammer on Fri Jun 22, 2012 7:46 pm
West Ham always a one step forward two back club.
and sadly it will never change
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by wintz on Fri Jun 22, 2012 7:53 pm
speculator wrote:Thanks Rob Green, on his day the best shot stopper I've seen. I don't blame him for leaving as the club has never paid him what he's worth. I can't see this new keeper being fit to tie his boots, but there you go - West Ham always a one step forward two back club.
To be fair I don't think he is worth 50k a year, I am disappointed in him as he moves to QPR. All about money for our Robert, thought more of him than that. We have fans complaining of high wages then complain when club don't bend over a barrell for him. Never win
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by Gator_Hammer on Sat Jun 23, 2012 4:00 am
wintz wrote: We have fans complaining of high wages then complain when club don't bend over a barrell for him.
Never win
That's not fair. We complain about people like Bennie McCarthy coming in on the wages he was on. Big difference between those type of contracts and one that would go to someone who has proven themselves up to the task for this club for six years.
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by ereford ammer on Sat Jun 23, 2012 6:49 am
That's not fair. We complain about people like Bennie McCarthy coming in on the wages he was on. Big difference between those type of contracts and one that would go to someone who has proven themselves up to the task for this club for six years.[/quote]
Well said. We will regret the departure of Rob, this affair was not handled well by the club.
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by hongkonghammer on Sat Jun 23, 2012 7:35 am
Goo luck to Green. Really liked him as a keeper and also seems like a decent bloke to. Disappointed he wanted to go and even more so that it's to QPR who are not a step up in my opinion. I don;t hold it against him. People on here slagging him for lack of loyalty or saying he is greedy should take a look at themselves. 6 years is a pretty good stint, not only in football but in general business. For example I have just left my previous employers after 5 years service because I 've been offered 15% more money for essentially he same money. I left as better for me and my family. Green is in the last few years of his playing career so I have no problem with him trying to get the best deal he can in what essentially could be his last contract.
Good luck Greeno
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by ageing hammer on Sat Jun 23, 2012 8:05 am
I think ( This is my own personal opinion and I could be wrong before I am ridiculed ) that Green called the Daves bluff. He was a long time trying to get what he thought was the proper recognition for his service to the club and I think because he had such a great rapport with the fans and was here so long, the Daves thought that they could play on the heart strings and that he would never leave us. The daves must have thought towards the end that they were going to keep him as it was ONLY QPR that wanted him and surely he wouldn't leave us for them. At that stage Green HAD to go or HE would have had his bluff called and looked a fool if he stayed 
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by Rightback on Sat Jun 23, 2012 8:25 am
Personally, I see it as a real loss. I'm surprised that a 'bigger' club than QPR didn't come in for him. Some might say that the fact he hasn't is a sign he wasn't really that good. I disagree. What I fear is that his ability has more or less been defined by that one cock-up in South Africa. For some of the bigger clubs that might be a sign that he can't hack it at the very top level, that on the big European nights he might not be good enough. What people forget is that after that mistake, Green produced a very good second half performance including one fantastic save. He subsequent treatment by Capello was an indication of why the team spirit was so poor.
All keepers are prone to the odd mistake. Green was no different. But the sign of a good keeper is if he earns you on balance more points than he costs you. Robert Green always earnt us points.
I don't go to the games very often but one of the few I did go to last season (Doncaster at home) I remember Green pulled off an incredible save that was, in my opinion, world class. If we'd have lost that game (which on balance we probably deserved to after trouncing Doncaster for the opening 20) it's hard to imagine how we'd have overcome that.
He goes with my blessing. I've no idea what salary he was on (the values seemed to change wildly) but it strikes me he's probably deserved better contractually for his years of excellent service. But I suppose once it came to a point where us contract ran down he was always going to get offered a better financial deal.
I for one will be sad to see him go. And UTJ reckons he's the second best keeper he's seen at the Boleyn, I'd happily second that.
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by scousehammerette on Sat Jun 23, 2012 9:01 am
I'll say much the same now as I said when I first barged into this forum a while back. Any West Ham fan slating Green needs a kick in the pants and several slaps with a wet fish.Twitter in particular is full of whining and howling. He's given loyal service for 6 years and has given his all for the club, remember him being blatantly ill and chucking up in goal at Old Toilet, carrying on regardless? The man has been a top professional, and has played behind a fairly weak back line for much of his time here. Yes he's made some clangers, but he's saved your arses on countless occasions. He feels it is time to move on, and in doing so, he hasn't disrespected the club or the fans in any way. He never stated that West Ham was the only club he'd play for for the rest of his career when he joined. His tribute to the fans was classy and is exactly the sort of thing that makes us Liverpool fans still so fond of Xabi Alonso and Luis Garcia (alongside their performances for us, obviously.  ) IMO he has left in the correct way. It's sad to see a fair few people turn on Greeno after he's given so much to West Ham. I think it'll be really very sad if people give him abuse when he comes back to play at UP.
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by beckton on Sat Jun 23, 2012 9:10 am
hadleighhammer wrote:For whatever reason we couldn't hold onto him, it will be interesting to see if we bring in an at least equal replacement as we step up a division. So far I'm concerned we haven't and his loss is being far too easily shrugged off on here, but time will tell.
I've seen it said repeatedly on here that Green's not irreplacable. Well of course he's not but how often do we see our better players leaving and being replaced by someone as good or better? Youtube clips of Jaaskelainen from 5 or 6 years ago hasn't convinced me that we're not worse off.
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by MB on Sat Jun 23, 2012 9:34 am
beckton wrote: I've seen it said repeatedly on here that Green's not irreplacable. Well of course he's not but how often do we see our better players leaving and being replaced by someone as good or better?
Youtube clips of Jaaskelainen from 5 or 6 years ago hasn't convinced me that we're not worse off.
Like for like we are probably worse off (based on performance last season), but the money saved can be spent on another player. So I see it as Jussi + another defender vs just having Green. And of course the wildcard in all of this is that none of us know how good Henderson is/can be.
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by Up the Junction on Sat Jun 23, 2012 9:49 am
MB wrote:And of course the wildcard in all of this is that none of us know how good Henderson is/can be.
Well, we know he's not considered to be as good as Rob Green by the management, for one, else he'd have replaced him for the second half of last season. And FWIW it seems that a few of our members are not the only ones looking to smear Greeno's name, according to an email I have received within the past 24 hours.
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by scousehammerette on Sat Jun 23, 2012 9:52 am
Up the Junction wrote:Well, we know he's not considered to be as good as Rob Green by the management, else he'd have replaced him for the second half of last season.
And FWIW it seems that a few of our members are not the only ones looking to smear Greeno's name, according to an email I have received within the past 24 hours.  Sounds ominous.
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by The Moth on Sat Jun 23, 2012 9:58 am
I really think were going to regret losing Rob
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