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Re: Jesse Lingard

Post by Billy Hunt » Thu Nov 25, 2021 12:21 pm

Albie Beck wrote:
Thu Nov 25, 2021 11:09 am
We were Declan's PLAN B. Is that not alright now?
Surely Rice is more Vanilla Ice than Plan B isn't he ... ?

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Re: Jesse Lingard

Post by Sloop John B » Thu Nov 25, 2021 12:36 pm

I'd be amazed if Lingard came back and recaptured his previous form so in one one he's on a hiding to nothing by coming back from some fans.

However, it's clear he's got something we need and will make a positive contribution to the team. His form did tail off but I'd put that down to general exhaustion rather some of the conspiracy ideas being floated.

Signing a younger player for the future is a decent argument, but the reality is we need someone for THIS Season, to strengthen our position...Just think what regular european qualification will do for our recruitment options!

In an ideal world we'd be letting Yarmo go and replacing him with Lingard.

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Re: Jesse Lingard

Post by hammerman11 » Thu Nov 25, 2021 12:38 pm

Bring in lingard and holzek. Present and future covered!

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Re: Jesse Lingard

Post by S-H » Thu Nov 25, 2021 12:39 pm

hammerman11 wrote:
Thu Nov 25, 2021 12:38 pm
Bring in lingard and holzek. Present and future covered!
What about the past?

Zamora?
Harewood?

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Re: Jesse Lingard

Post by Ozza » Thu Nov 25, 2021 12:40 pm

I'll say it again for what feels like the hundredth time, his club said he wasn't for sale, he is under contract there, so he didn't have a decision to make 6 months ago, they also gave him the view point that he would be included in games.

Makes me laugh, those of you that think he should have kicked off ripped his contract up and stropped off, the bloke is a professional, if he had done im pretty sure most of you would have been saying that we shouldn't be anywhere near a disloyal trouble maker...

Plan B.... not if you never had the choice to make

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Re: Jesse Lingard

Post by Ozza » Thu Nov 25, 2021 12:45 pm

Turtlecharityracer wrote:
Thu Nov 25, 2021 10:33 am

The downsides: Badly tailed off. Gave the impression of thinking he is bigger than the club. Lazy at tines in games. Made clear we are very much a second choice. Signing players from bigger clubs rarely works. Age means he is clearly not a young, hungry signingvthat Moyes claimed he wanted when he joined.

Overall, would.prefer we steer clear and use the scouting knowledge we have allegedly employed in Newman to find a younger player with his best years ahead of him rather than behind him.
what a load of old bowlocks, you should go and look at the stats he was producing right up until the end of his loan period, still contributing with assists and goals, still running further than anyone else on the pitch, and when exactly did he give it that he was bigger than the club?

So glad we have the manager that we have who knows more than some of the drivel on here.

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Re: Jesse Lingard

Post by LeonRivers » Thu Nov 25, 2021 12:45 pm

Surrey Supporter wrote:
Thu Nov 25, 2021 10:15 am
Do we really want to sign someone who IMO thinks of our beloved West Ham merely as his PLAN B ?
I can only imagine your horror that we're still entertaining Declan Rice who is only with us because Chelsea, his plan A, rejected him as a child.

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Re: Jesse Lingard

Post by BigFatSam » Thu Nov 25, 2021 12:52 pm

Danny's Dyer Acting wrote:
Thu Nov 25, 2021 12:20 pm
I don't want to worry you without cause but you realise the vast majority of our squad are only here because we were the best option available at the time we signed them and not because DEMBA BA LOVE WEST HAM?
No they’d clearly all turn down Manchester United as they love walking out the tunnel with all those bubbles. Come on you eye Ron’s.

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Re: Jesse Lingard

Post by Lars Jacobsen » Thu Nov 25, 2021 1:14 pm

For me, it's simple. If the lad wants to come back, and the deal is right, it's a no-brainer.

If we're dragging him kicking and screaming with a £150k p/w contract for the next 5 years, no thank you.

He will help us to push on and cement our place in the top four, if he joins. But only if he's fit, firing and up for it. Which he was last time!

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Re: Jesse Lingard

Post by Sloop John B » Thu Nov 25, 2021 1:26 pm

Lars Jacobsen wrote:
Thu Nov 25, 2021 1:14 pm
If we're dragging him kicking and screaming with a £150k p/w contract for the next 5 years, no thank you.
I imagine Newcastle will act as a natural filter for any quality players looking to move clubs in the next few windows... they'll be tabling offers for people left right and centre so it will be much easier to see where players priorities lie.

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Re: Jesse Lingard

Post by Estuary » Thu Nov 25, 2021 1:32 pm

Sloop John B wrote:
Thu Nov 25, 2021 1:26 pm
I imagine Newcastle will act as a natural filter for any quality players looking to move clubs in the next few windows... they'll be tabling offers for people left right and centre so it will be much easier to see where players priorities lie.
Very perceptive. They will also push the wage demands up a tad.

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Re: Jesse Lingard

Post by Lars Jacobsen » Thu Nov 25, 2021 2:57 pm

Sloop John B wrote:
Thu Nov 25, 2021 1:26 pm
I imagine Newcastle will act as a natural filter for any quality players looking to move clubs in the next few windows... they'll be tabling offers for people left right and centre so it will be much easier to see where players priorities lie.
Good point, although I'd hope that most people wouldn't see it as a straight shoot-out between megabucks but relegation-threatened Newcastle, and high-flying West Ham!

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Re: Jesse Lingard

Post by hammers92 » Thu Nov 25, 2021 2:59 pm

The constant questioning of Lingard is starting to really irk me. He was never for sale in the summer, that’s very plainly clear.

There’s nothing wrong with his attitude and to spend the day chatting about his priorities shows some of you might want to get out more.

All aboard the Lingard bus, can’t wait to see him back.

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Re: Jesse Lingard

Post by hammerman11 » Thu Nov 25, 2021 4:11 pm

Can we park the lingard bus until Jan 1st; when he signs !

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Re: Jesse Lingard

Post by HammerAl » Thu Nov 25, 2021 4:44 pm

Every player is not for sale until the club gets an offer that matches their valuation. And even when that happens, the player has to want to go.

If we had offered Man Utd £30m (not saying he was worth that) in the summer then they would have accepted, 100%. Whether Lingard would have agreed to come is another story.

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