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Re: Europa league logistics

Post by bubbles1966 » Fri Nov 12, 2021 8:31 pm

bubbles1966 wrote:
Sat Aug 28, 2021 10:06 am
UPDATED

11 Sept Southampton D
16 Sept Dinamo Zagreb A W
19 Sept Man U L
22 Sept Man U (LC Rd 3) W
25 Sept Leeds W
30 Sept Rapid Vienna H W
03 Oct Brentford L
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INTL BREAK
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17 Oct Everton W
21 Oct Genk H W
24 Oct Spurs W
27 Oct Man C (LC Rd 4) W
31 Oct Aston Villa W
04 Nov Genk A D
07 Nov Liverpool W
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INTL BREAK
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20 Nov Wolves
25 Nov Rapid Vienna A
27 Nov Man City
30 Nov Brighton
04 Dec Chelsea
09 Dec Dinamo Zagreb H
11 Dec Burnley
14 Dec Arsenal
18 Dec Norwich
21 Dec Spurs (LC QF)
Great run - the two in red are a chance to rotate if we do Vienna away.

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Re: Europa League 2021/22

Post by prophet:marginal » Fri Nov 12, 2021 8:45 pm

17 Oct Everton W
21 Oct Genk H W
24 Oct Spurs W
27 Oct Man C (LC Rd 4) W
31 Oct Aston Villa W
04 Nov Genk A D
07 Nov Liverpool W

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Re: Europa League 2021/22

Post by backhouse21 » Fri Nov 19, 2021 9:54 am

With Austria now locked down, hopefully they don't roll over our ban for the away leg of the knockouts - they can't do that, can they?! :cry:

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Re: Europa League 2021/22

Post by S-H » Fri Nov 19, 2021 9:55 am

I very much doubt they can do that.

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Re: Europa League 2021/22

Post by Danny's Dyer Acting » Fri Nov 19, 2021 10:45 am

prophet:marginal wrote:
Fri Nov 12, 2021 8:45 pm
17 Oct Everton W
21 Oct Genk H W
24 Oct Spurs W
27 Oct Man C (LC Rd 4) W
31 Oct Aston Villa W
04 Nov Genk A D
07 Nov Liverpool W

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Considering that loss to Brentford sent a lot of us into the last international break on a bit of a downer..... :scarfer:

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Re: Europa League 2021/22

Post by prophet:marginal » Tue Nov 23, 2021 10:43 pm

Looks like a few of the better countries' clubs are coming our way*, from 3rd place in CL, after the 5th round of matches tonight.

Atalanta or Villareal (from Man U's group).

Possibly Sevilla and Benfica, too.

Zenit are surely also definites, given Malmo's single point and terrible g/d


*if we finish top of course.

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Re: Europa League 2021/22

Post by dodger » Tue Nov 23, 2021 10:48 pm

prophet:marginal wrote:
Tue Nov 23, 2021 10:43 pm
Looks like a few of the better countries' clubs are coming our way*, from 3rd place in CL, after the 5th round of matches tonight.

Atalanta or Villareal (from Man U's group).

Possibly Sevilla and Benfica, too.

Zenit are surely also definites, given Malmo's single point and terrible g/d


*if we finish top of course.
Doesn’t matter if we finish top or second, these teams will drop into the round of 32 playoff round. We are certain to play them if we finish second and may face them if we finish first. 

Also I’d say it’s more likely Barcelona drop into the EL than Benfica.
Barca are two points ahead of Benfica with one game left to play.
Final fixtures: Bayern vs Barca, Benfica vs Dynamo Kiev (bottom, out, nothing to play for)
If Benfica win, Barca would have to win away to Bayern to progress. A draw wouldn’t be enough as Benfica beat them on head-to-head.

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Re: Europa League 2021/22

Post by Collison Theory » Tue Nov 23, 2021 10:54 pm

Call me an idiot but I'd love a crack at this Barca side, knocking them out of Europe would be a legendary moment in the clubs history.

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Re: Europa League 2021/22

Post by prophet:marginal » Tue Nov 23, 2021 10:57 pm

dodger wrote:
Tue Nov 23, 2021 10:48 pm
Doesn’t matter if we finish top or second, these teams will drop into the round of 32 playoff round. We are certain to play them if we finish second and may face them if we finish first. 

Also I’d say it’s more likely Barcelona drop into the EL than Benfica.
Barca are two points ahead of Benfica with one game left to play.
Final fixtures: Bayern vs Barca, Benfica vs Dynamo Kiev (bottom, out, nothing to play for)
If Benfica win, Barca would have to win away to Bayern to progress. A draw wouldn’t be enough as Benfica beat them on head-to-head.
Good points; I was looking at it wrongly.

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Re: Europa League 2021/22

Post by prophet:marginal » Tue Nov 23, 2021 10:57 pm

Collison Theory wrote:
Tue Nov 23, 2021 10:54 pm
Call me an idiot but I'd love a crack at this Barca side, knocking them out of Europe would be a legendary moment in the clubs history.
I hate to say this, but I reckon they would thrash us, even this depleted version of themselves.

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Re: Europa League 2021/22

Post by bubbles1966 » Tue Nov 23, 2021 11:03 pm

prophet:marginal wrote:
Tue Nov 23, 2021 10:57 pm
I hate to say this, but I reckon they would thrash us, even this depleted version of themselves.
I think we'd beat them.

The team to avoid for the time being is Napoli.

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Re: Europa League 2021/22

Post by Bond Holder 59 » Tue Nov 23, 2021 11:11 pm

I agree with some, let’s have a go at Barcelona home and away. Then imagine our standing going into any transfer discussions?

Think big, act big, play big and everything will become ……..massive!
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Re: Europa League 2021/22

Post by prophet:marginal » Tue Nov 23, 2021 11:11 pm

I don't think we'd beat either Barca or Napoli over a two-legged tie, in all honesty.

I think we'd make every effort to do so, but there's something about Busquets, Jordi Alba and de Jong that makes me think that they would simply out-pass us and pick us off. The team they have out there at the moment doesn't appear to include that young kid, Pedri, who I think will replace Ronaldo and Messi as the single best player in the world, over the next few years.

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Re: Europa League 2021/22

Post by Collison Theory » Tue Nov 23, 2021 11:13 pm

prophet:marginal wrote:
Tue Nov 23, 2021 10:57 pm
I hate to say this, but I reckon they would thrash us, even this depleted version of themselves.
They're seventh in La Liga, the only team they've beaten in Europe is Dynamo Kiev, do you think they are a better team than us this year? Do you fear any particular players, or just think we'd bottle it?

I think the atmosphere at their club must be pretty bad right now, and it would only get worse if they end up in the Europa- a trophy which they'd quickly forget if they won. I'm not saying we'd be favourites, but I wouldn't say there's much in it .

I'd agree that Napoli are a better side, and probably by a reasonable margin.

Potential Champions League teams I'm most keen to avoid- Athletico, Dortmund and, to a lesser extent, Porto.

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Re: Europa League 2021/22

Post by 1966 » Tue Nov 23, 2021 11:13 pm

Collison Theory wrote:
Tue Nov 23, 2021 10:54 pm
Call me an idiot but I'd love a crack at this Barca side, knocking them out of Europe would be a legendary moment in the clubs history.
You're not an idiot at all. To be in a position to consider this or play them is in itself a sign of how far we've come and where we believe we are heading.

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Re: Europa League 2021/22

Post by prophet:marginal » Tue Nov 23, 2021 11:18 pm

Collison Theory wrote:
Tue Nov 23, 2021 11:13 pm
They're seventh in La Liga, the only team they've beaten in Europe is Dynamo Kiev, do you think they are a better team than us this year? Do you fear any particular players, or just think we'd bottle it?
I think I posted a reply to Bubbs' post when you were uploading these questions.

In summary, I think that they are set to improve after a terrible start to this season, that they will only possibly finish 3rd, but, if they do, they will see EL as their passport to CL, given their travails in La Liga and that there would still be enough experience of this type of football for them to not struggle to beat us.

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Re: Europa League 2021/22

Post by stu1 » Tue Nov 23, 2021 11:57 pm

prophet:marginal wrote:
Tue Nov 23, 2021 10:57 pm
I hate to say this, but I reckon they would thrash us, even this depleted version of themselves.
Why would they thrash us?

We haven't lost a game by 2 goals in almost a year (since Liverpool Jan 2021). During that time we've played far better sides like Chelsea, Liverpool, Man C and Man U (pre this season) on multi occasions and not been thrashed.

Barca would be favourites to beat us over two legs because of the experience of some of the players they have but we'd certainly have a decent chance. If it wasn't for that Benfica striker fluffing his lines twice when clean through in the last minute Barca would for all intents and purposes have been knocked out of the champs with a game to play.

Napoli would be a far more difficult assignment.

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Re: Europa League 2021/22

Post by sutts07 » Wed Nov 24, 2021 12:02 am

I wouldn't get too carried away about the demise of Barca, they are 2ns to Bayern in what looks on paper to be the toughest of all groups.

Slipping to 7th in the table hasn't been ideal for them, but again, two wins and they are top four again. I can't see them catching Madrid, but they will finish top four.

All of that said, I do think we could have a real good crack at them right now. Us fully fit and flying v them in their current state... I'd fancy it!

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Re: Europa League 2021/22

Post by Collison Theory » Wed Nov 24, 2021 12:12 am

prophet:marginal wrote:
Tue Nov 23, 2021 11:18 pm
I think I posted a reply to Bubbs' post when you were uploading these questions.

In summary, I think that they are set to improve after a terrible start to this season, that they will only possibly finish 3rd, but, if they do, they will see EL as their passport to CL, given their travails in La Liga and that there would still be enough experience of this type of football for them to not struggle to beat us.
That's a fair point :thup: So basically, if they drop into the Europa, we want them to start winning games domestically!

Still, Declan leading the boys out at the Camp Nou would be some moment.

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Re: Europa League 2021/22

Post by Ironing Board » Wed Nov 24, 2021 2:47 am

prophet:marginal wrote:
Tue Nov 23, 2021 10:57 pm
I hate to say this, but I reckon they would thrash us, even this depleted version of themselves.
I actually think we would beat them quite badly.

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