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Re: OGS gone [non WHU]

Post by jastons » Mon Nov 22, 2021 6:41 pm

If Carrick is half as good a manager as he was a player then they will be OK

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Post by Ozza » Mon Nov 22, 2021 6:43 pm

What a cluster f*** of a club, said it at the time that signing Ronaldo was a bad move, it’s unsettled the plans they had in place, and you can’t drop him without all hell breaking loose….

And then you sack the manager who got you to second last season, who only signed a new contract 4 months earlier AND have no replacement…..

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Post by Ozza » Mon Nov 22, 2021 6:45 pm

jastons wrote:
Mon Nov 22, 2021 6:41 pm
If Carrick is half as good a manager as he was a player then they will be OK
No way Pogba, Ronaldo et all are respecting the interim fella who’s never been a manager

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Post by WCpete » Mon Nov 22, 2021 6:51 pm

Carrick is as complicit in rubbishing their side as OGS was. Ipso facto, I love this appointment.

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Post by 61dicksey » Mon Nov 22, 2021 7:16 pm

WCpete wrote:
Mon Nov 22, 2021 6:51 pm
Carrick is as complicit in rubbishing their side as OGS was. Ipso facto, I love this appointment.
He is and i am glad they are going to limp on until the summer, i guess they must have somebody in mind , but i suspect being managing Manchester United is like herding cats.

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Post by norse » Mon Nov 22, 2021 8:45 pm

prophet:marginal wrote:
Mon Nov 22, 2021 2:17 pm

I honestly believe Zouma is better than Maguire.
Would Maguire start for France? I doubt it.


Re: Man Utd, it's important to remember that like AC Milan, they've had two dynasties. Of the 20 titles in the top league, 18 of them was one by either Busby or Ferguson. There's no guarantee they'll get a third one like that, in fact it will never happen. Only thing they can really do is a proper rebuild but they don't have the owners nor the time to say spend 5-10 years on it. Man City was bought in what, 2008ish? They have been building the whole time and it's not until now their academy is beginning to produce top quality for their first team, for example

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Post by pablo jaye » Mon Nov 22, 2021 10:07 pm

One of my pals supports ManU and reckons that nothing will change until the owners get tired of their vanity project.

One of the amusing things is that it will take some while before they fix the rudder.

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Post by r99c » Mon Nov 22, 2021 10:16 pm

Honestly think it's their players not performing more so than the manager.

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Post by goa127 » Mon Nov 22, 2021 11:46 pm

OGS was a prisoner of his attacking football phylosophy. Game after game their midfield was overrun,. He swapped about who played there without realising it was a numbers game. Leave out one of the forwards and put another midfielder in. That way Maguire won't be constantly exposed, Luke Shaw won't keep running after the ball and leaving his runner and the opposition won't cut through the team at will. 4 2 4 hasn't worked since about 1963, if he can't work that out he really is a useless manager

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Re: OGS gone [non WHU]

Post by HammerJammer » Tue Nov 23, 2021 6:03 am

I'll miss that unique Mancswegian accent on MOTD…
:crylol: :crylol: :crylol:

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Post by ageing hammer » Tue Nov 23, 2021 10:19 am

prophet:marginal wrote:
Mon Nov 22, 2021 2:17 pm


I honestly believe Zouma is better than Maguire.
So is Dawson :grin:

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Re: OGS gone [non WHU]

Post by chalks » Tue Nov 23, 2021 10:27 am

I dont get this 'OGS is a nice guy' crap.

I've found him to be one of the most dislikeable characters in football ever since he got the job at Cardiff. Arrogant, usually talks utter ***** in interviews and for me always comes across as a smarmy prick

So out of his depth its embarrassing. The equivalent of giving a Junior Doctor the job of Chief Brain Surgeon. Villa sacked Dean Smith and he was instantly in demand. Not even Norwich would have had any interest in OGS

I feel better after that rant

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Post by S-H » Tue Nov 23, 2021 10:29 am

chalks wrote:
Tue Nov 23, 2021 10:27 am
I dont get this 'OGS is a nice guy' crap.

I've found him to be one of the most dislikeable characters in football ever since he got the job at Cardiff. Arrogant, usually talks utter ***** in interviews and for me always comes across as a smarmy prick

So out of his depth its embarrassing. The equivalent of giving a Junior Doctor the job of Chief Brain Surgeon. Villa sacked Dean Smith and he was instantly in demand. Not even Norwich would have had any interest in OGS

I feel better after that rant
Spot on!

It infuriates me, that we didn't beat them more, whilst he was in charge.

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Post by 1966 » Tue Nov 23, 2021 10:51 am

Croydon wrote:
Mon Nov 22, 2021 12:25 pm
I'd go for Bielsa for a season if I were them. Get the players running, scare the **** out of them and maybe set them up right for the next "project".
I believe it's a myth that any manager can come in and give concern to foreign mercenary millionaires with 'I'll be in my trailer' attitudes.

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Post by jastons » Tue Nov 23, 2021 10:58 am

Zola did better with West Ham than OGS did with Manchester United...

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Post by Puff Daddy » Tue Nov 23, 2021 11:21 am

Steve Bruce v. interested, apparently

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Re: OGS gone [non WHU]

Post by MB » Tue Nov 23, 2021 11:23 am

r99c wrote:
Mon Nov 22, 2021 10:16 pm
Honestly think it's their players not performing more so than the manager.
One follows the other IMO. At that level of management it is as much about getting a tune out of the players as it is tactical.

You won't have the togetherness like Moyes has produced here (or at least not for a long spell) that is why it is so hard to maintain success at these clubs year after year and for all his failings (at times) why someone like Pep should get a lot of credit.

Certain players were bigger than Ole. He didn't, or couldn't, drop them when they didn't perform even with ready made replacements waiting in the wings. They smelt that weakness and exploited it to the maximum.

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Re: OGS gone [non WHU]

Post by Bucksexile » Tue Nov 23, 2021 11:24 am

Shall be watching the Villa Real game with interest.

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Re: OGS gone [non WHU]

Post by lincolnhammer1963 » Tue Nov 23, 2021 11:24 am

I would be shocked if OGS ever gets the chance to manage in English football again.

Extremely poor decision maker during games, and totally ruined once Ronaldo arrived.

His next managerial destination ( if there is to be one)
Will be Norway or an emerging country trying to establish a professional league system such as
Australia
China
India
Or the USA
And he will only be offered a job there because he's a name

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Re: OGS gone [non WHU]

Post by Surrey Supporter » Tue Nov 23, 2021 11:38 am

Mark Hughes might be looking for a new job, I'm sure he'd do a great job there :grin:

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