Filed: Monday, 8th October 2012
By: Staff Writer
Arsenal supporters reflect upon Saturday's derby at the Boleyn Ground - and despite the win, some still aren't happy...
"Decisions that went against us in just one game: Diame second yellow - clear yellow offence, no card given, West Ham avoid going down to ten men early on in the game; Gervinho booking - clear dive, absolutely zero contact, yellow card given and West Ham nearly score from the subsequent free kick; Ramsey penalty appeal - a definite foul, you could debate it being in the box or not but the fact is Dowd didn't even give the foul; Nolan offside chance - fortunately for us he didn't score. The more these things happen, the more I start to believe there is some corruption in the league as there is clear bias all over the place. It's now at the point where there are too many games like this to list."
"A great win. West Ham will give a lot of teams a serious workout this season, if not more, especially at home. Let's be honest, Carroll can consider himself fairly unlucky not to have scored yesterday. Hearts in mouths when he outjumped Mannone in the second half. Very pleased for Giroud. Great striker's run and finish, exactly what we've been missing. Offered us an outlet as well. Also feel that Theo showed why he should be given a crack centrally. Best finisher at the club along with Podolski."
"West Ham provided us with our most physically demanding test to date. However, they ran out of ideas in the last 20 mins. It was a next goal wins at 1-1. Not many teams will win, let alone get points at the Boleyn Ground. West Ham will be safe but Big Sam's got to get more varied in his approach at times. His Bolton teams mixed, skill, graft, physique and belief to present a formidable challenge to all and sundry in their pomp. West Ham for me are short of a few artists but full of artisans. At the death when they needed a goal it became just hit and hope and that style will only get you so far."
"I was really surprised to see West Ham play into our hand like that. Instead of parking the bus and frustrating us like they did for large periods of the first two thirds of the game, they decided to all of a sudden keep possession and attack leaving themselves exposed to counters - even though at that point the score was still tied. Oh well, good for us I suppose."
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"Although he skinned us for the goal, I'm glad Diame is getting the recognition he deserves. Quite an underrated player, not a complete player to be in the Toure category, but is reminiscent of the Ivorian's style."
"Positives: Defence's control of ground play; Our attacking play once West Ham started tiring; Theo's finishing and movement and Cazorla's last 30 minutes. Negatives: Our defence wasn't good enough to handle Carroll and West Ham's general aerial play; We couldn't break down their defence and continued to pass the ball around pointlessly; We relied on luck to keep the game at 1-1; West Ham's dominance in the air all over the pitch."
"I thought we played very well, West Ham away won't be an easy match for many this season. Some really shaky moments defensively and at times it looked like only Arteta was doing his defensive job in midfield. Some of our play was sublime going forward, Cazorla is just so good. Absolute gem of a player."
"A great result and a deserved victory. We weren't amazing by any standards, but were clearly the better side throughout. They had two plans: kick it to Carroll for a knockdown and let Diame do things. Thats about it. Giroud and Cazorla were excellent.Giroud's pass to Walcott was very nice and thats the kind of play he can bring as a CF. Cazorla is simply different class when he's on his game."
"Thank God Nolan didnt bring his shooting boots today as he generally does against us, his two chances were crucial. They could have gone 2-1 up if he hadn't cut back (great tackle by Merte btw) and at 2-1 to us just after we scored, Nolan blazed over. Everyone played pretty well. I thought Vermaelen, Cazorla, Giroud and Podolski were the standout performers."
"There's no manager who has contributed to the growth and the popularity of the Premier League more than Arsène and yet every upstart, be it manager or a reporter, takes a cheap shot at him and nobody says or does anything about it. Same goes for those morons at Upton Park today who wouldn't dare hurl foul language at Fungus or 'Arry simply because they're Brits whilst Arsène is French whom most people in the UK aren't fond of and don't even try to hide it."
* Comments originally posted at arsenal-mania.com and goonersworld.co.uk.
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by g portugal
02:14PM 8th Oct 2012
''SomeGooner is an extraordinary moron even by Arsenal standards. No wonder the UK is in recession with idiots like him.''
by John Pritchard
10:23AM 8th Oct 2012
''Some reasonable comments in large from our Gooner friends - but for "Illusion" let's point out that from the moment Diame was booked for daring to celebrate a fine goal in front of his own fans, Arteta was on at him, little kicks at the back of the ankles etc just to wind him up and get a reaction - is that what you want to see? The tackle that followed would almost certainly have been a booking (though well-milked by Arteta who did it again second half yet seemed to survive two apparently life threatening tackles) but Dowd seemd to realise that dismissal was harsh whilst clearly warning Diame one more and you're off.
Given that Diame and Walcott both were booked for celebrating with their own I was surprised Cazorla got away with pointedly running straight at the West Ham fans after his super strike, a far more dangerous situation.
For "somgooner" - first, let me reassure you that 'Arry gets considerably more stick than Wenger, also that Sir Alex and his team are hardly our favourites. That notwithstanding the chants at Mr Wenger were a disgrace and we decent fans can only apologise - let's face it, all crowds sing appalling stuff at times, yours included - it's a sad part of our game. Even though he spent about 70 of the 90 minutes moaning to the 4th official (as usual) no-one deserves such libellous inaccuracies.
No doubt who was the better side - but 2-2 would have been fairer on chances created, I thought we played pretty well, we just need to ensure that level is maintained against the poorer sides when we so often slip up and don't perform.
ps - we must sign Carroll in January - and secondly, as noted above, we didn't park the bus, we tried to play, the criticism of Sam and his supposed style of play is grossly inaccurate and unfair - give the guy the credit he is due, we are playing damn well.''