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by Ironing Board
Sat Nov 16, 2019 4:47 pm
Forum: General Discussion
Topic: Manuel Pellegrini West Ham United’s 17th manager
Replies: 6937
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Re: Manuel Pellegrini West Ham United’s 17th manager

BondsoBob wrote:
Sat Nov 16, 2019 8:17 am
Boxing gloves for IB and Wilcko !
Bare knuckle!
by Ironing Board
Sat Nov 16, 2019 5:38 am
Forum: General Discussion
Topic: Manuel Pellegrini West Ham United’s 17th manager
Replies: 6937
Views: 400577

Re: Manuel Pellegrini West Ham United’s 17th manager

I suppose I just don’t think it’s unfair for there to be few British coaches. Saying that, there’s 9(?) in the Premier League. When we moved away from the bad ones, better ones were given a chance to progress. Newer generations have come along and succeeded since the cast of the Hughes era faded aw...
by Ironing Board
Sat Nov 16, 2019 4:23 am
Forum: General Discussion
Topic: Manuel Pellegrini West Ham United’s 17th manager
Replies: 6937
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Re: Manuel Pellegrini West Ham United’s 17th manager

They weren’t what they had been and nor were they what they are now, is my point. Until Klopp, they hadn’t reestablished as top, top tier like Manchester United were before your mate. Again, you appear to be purposefully representing my words, and continuing to be rude in doing so. All of the big p...
by Ironing Board
Sat Nov 16, 2019 2:00 am
Forum: General Discussion
Topic: Manuel Pellegrini West Ham United’s 17th manager
Replies: 6937
Views: 400577

Re: Manuel Pellegrini West Ham United’s 17th manager

Wilko1304 wrote:
Sat Nov 16, 2019 1:54 am
You realise this only supports my point? I was saying Ferguson didn’t work his way up through a tiny side as Aberdeen were a big deal?
The point was a young Ferguson would walk into a top side in England after being at Aberdeen nowadays, which is nonsense.
by Ironing Board
Sat Nov 16, 2019 1:57 am
Forum: General Discussion
Topic: Manuel Pellegrini West Ham United’s 17th manager
Replies: 6937
Views: 400577

Re: Manuel Pellegrini West Ham United’s 17th manager

Patronising tone aside, and calling others clueless, your point is not well made nor a strong one to stand aside so brazenly. Rodgers at the very least delivered a season better than any Premier League one Liverpool has mustered to that point. Context again is that Liverpool werent a behemoth at th...
by Ironing Board
Sat Nov 16, 2019 1:52 am
Forum: General Discussion
Topic: Manuel Pellegrini West Ham United’s 17th manager
Replies: 6937
Views: 400577

Re: Manuel Pellegrini West Ham United’s 17th manager

Aberdeen werent a tiny club then (or now) so it certainly wasn’t working his way up the leagues. British managers haven’t earned their shot. Rodgers did well but there was this one guy who had a go with a big club, the champions, and absolutely shat the bed. There were talks of his training methods...
by Ironing Board
Sat Nov 16, 2019 12:56 am
Forum: General Discussion
Topic: Manuel Pellegrini West Ham United’s 17th manager
Replies: 6937
Views: 400577

Re: Manuel Pellegrini West Ham United’s 17th manager

You’ve called me clueless then just gone and made up things I’ve said. Go and quote where I’ve said Rogers did well at Liverpool and Pellegrini did well at Man City. Go on find that quote. You can’t hack it that your points have been torn apart by various posters so instead of debating you resort t...
by Ironing Board
Sat Nov 16, 2019 12:41 am
Forum: General Discussion
Topic: Manuel Pellegrini West Ham United’s 17th manager
Replies: 6937
Views: 400577

Re: Manuel Pellegrini West Ham United’s 17th manager

No it doesn’t. It’s not just a coincidence that the season Moyes joined, they went from champions to mid table. He’s just not a big team manager. Mid table teams with a small budget who don’t care for the style of football. That’s his calling, he does a fine job there. Milan’s decline was a bit mor...
by Ironing Board
Sat Nov 16, 2019 12:22 am
Forum: General Discussion
Topic: Manuel Pellegrini West Ham United’s 17th manager
Replies: 6937
Views: 400577

Re: Manuel Pellegrini West Ham United’s 17th manager

I wish I could stop accidentally hitting quote instead of edit!
by Ironing Board
Sat Nov 16, 2019 12:18 am
Forum: General Discussion
Topic: Manuel Pellegrini West Ham United’s 17th manager
Replies: 6937
Views: 400577

Re: Manuel Pellegrini West Ham United’s 17th manager

“Moyes did well” - reality = 7th. “How did Rodgers do well?” - reality 2nd. We’ve got a manager there whose failures are down to the title winning squad he inherited, and one whose successes don’t count because a previous manager bought Suarez. Ferguson left Manchester United in first. Dalglish lef...
by Ironing Board
Sat Nov 16, 2019 12:01 am
Forum: General Discussion
Topic: Manuel Pellegrini West Ham United’s 17th manager
Replies: 6937
Views: 400577

Re: Manuel Pellegrini West Ham United’s 17th manager

That’s all well and good but it doesn’t negate the below! :D Of course it doesn't, but it makes the drop off understandable. That team was done. It was a similar dropoff to the great AC Milan team, which just seemed to suddenly collapse. Getting back on topic, perhaps Pellers could have done better...
by Ironing Board
Fri Nov 15, 2019 11:32 pm
Forum: General Discussion
Topic: Manuel Pellegrini West Ham United’s 17th manager
Replies: 6937
Views: 400577

Re: Manuel Pellegrini West Ham United’s 17th manager

:lol: Man Utd 06/07 - 1st 07/08 - 1st 08/09 - 1st 09/10 - 2nd 10/11 - 1st 11/12 - 2nd 12/13 - 1st Enter Moyes. 13/14 - 7th And what did Van Gaal do as soon as he arrived? Gutted the squad because it was not fit for purpose. Note the fact pretty much the entire defense was released. 28 June 2014 DF ...
by Ironing Board
Fri Nov 15, 2019 10:52 pm
Forum: General Discussion
Topic: Manuel Pellegrini West Ham United’s 17th manager
Replies: 6937
Views: 400577

Re: Manuel Pellegrini West Ham United’s 17th manager

Aberdeen werent a tiny club then (or now) so it certainly wasn’t working his way up the leagues. British managers haven’t earned their shot. Rodgers did well but there was this one guy who had a go with a big club, the champions, and absolutely shat the bed. There were talks of his training methods...
by Ironing Board
Fri Nov 15, 2019 9:12 pm
Forum: General Discussion
Topic: Manuel Pellegrini West Ham United’s 17th manager
Replies: 6937
Views: 400577

Re: Manuel Pellegrini West Ham United’s 17th manager

S-H wrote:
Fri Nov 15, 2019 1:22 pm
Why?
Because that midfield is truly abysmal!
by Ironing Board
Fri Nov 15, 2019 9:12 pm
Forum: General Discussion
Topic: Manuel Pellegrini West Ham United’s 17th manager
Replies: 6937
Views: 400577

Re: Manuel Pellegrini West Ham United’s 17th manager

Granted it doesn't tell the story you want tell... a story where the best managers in the game pootle around mid table and the relegation zone and dine out on the few good seasons they had a decade ago. :wink: You're right in that Fergie would struggle to win silverware without being at one of the ...
by Ironing Board
Fri Nov 15, 2019 1:15 pm
Forum: General Discussion
Topic: Not so Super Mario
Replies: 33
Views: 2060

Re: Not so Super Mario

A man with zero Premier League experience recruiting all the players alongside his old pal, who is used to buying players for top dollar - what could possibly go wrong ?!?
by Ironing Board
Fri Nov 15, 2019 1:10 pm
Forum: General Discussion
Topic: Manuel Pellegrini West Ham United’s 17th manager
Replies: 6937
Views: 400577

Re: Manuel Pellegrini West Ham United’s 17th manager

My biggest issue with Pelle is his stubborn persistence with playing a flat back 4: • It’s been proven time & again our CBs are far more comfortable playing in a 3 • Fredericks and Arthur are perfectly suited to playing as Wing-Backs, but get exposed as Full-Backs • Our midfield desperately needs t...
by Ironing Board
Fri Nov 15, 2019 1:09 pm
Forum: General Discussion
Topic: Manuel Pellegrini West Ham United’s 17th manager
Replies: 6937
Views: 400577

Re: Manuel Pellegrini West Ham United’s 17th manager

Sloop John B wrote:
Fri Nov 15, 2019 9:31 am
Yes... Quality managers win trophies. End of.
It’s a crude measurement that does not tell the whole story, especially in the modern game. Even the likes of Fergie would struggle to win silverware in this era without one of the top teams due to the concentration of talent.
by Ironing Board
Fri Nov 15, 2019 7:33 am
Forum: General Discussion
Topic: Manuel Pellegrini West Ham United’s 17th manager
Replies: 6937
Views: 400577

Re: Manuel Pellegrini West Ham United’s 17th manager

There were numerous errors in the post, more than one. I’ve pointed them out and you’ve ignored them. There’s no point discussing a post when the whole thing is based on lies. Try again. Only if you count his career as only consisting of his European years, and even then you have to do some mental ...
by Ironing Board
Fri Nov 15, 2019 7:29 am
Forum: General Discussion
Topic: David Gold
Replies: 48
Views: 2554

Re: David Gold

S-H wrote:
Fri Nov 15, 2019 5:07 am
They both need to dye asap.
Just For Men?