Crystal Palace 2 v West Ham Utd 2 (01/10/11)

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Re: Crystal Palace FC v West Ham United - match thread

Post by The Rebirth » Sun Oct 02, 2011 8:14 pm

Romford wrote:I agree....but there are too many out there these days that are just expecting a result
Romford that I have to agree with a bloke in the pub at the end of the game was like 'you don't expect us to win the league!' he was baffled when I said no!

One question I have to ask though is does Carlos Tevez actually want to come home? I mean we must of sung it a hundred times!

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Re: Crystal Palace FC v West Ham United - match thread

Post by Gnome » Sun Oct 02, 2011 8:35 pm

The Rebirth wrote:One question I have to ask though is does Carlos Tevez actually want to come home? I mean we must of sung it a hundred times!
Of course he does.

Trouble is home to him is Buenos Aires.

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Re: Crystal Palace FC v West Ham United - match thread

Post by Romford » Sun Oct 02, 2011 8:41 pm

Had he seen you scoff those jellied eels last night...he'd want to come here 8-)

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Re: Crystal Palace FC v West Ham United - match thread

Post by the pink palermo » Sun Oct 02, 2011 8:46 pm

Romford wrote:I agree....but there are too many out there these days that are just expecting a result
Thought we bossed the second half of the first half yesterday - playing some decent stuff .

The first half of the second half was hard to watch - and yes, Palace were very adept at stopping us playing by then .

I've said before about our home form , nobody has yet parked the bus , but I expect Leicester to do just that when they come along .

Four draws on their travels this season , they'll come for a point , let's see if we see a different line up then .

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Re: Crystal Palace FC v West Ham United - match thread

Post by prophet:marginal » Sun Oct 02, 2011 9:21 pm

I think Papa Wardrobe Diop is a likely feature of our midfield, after his display for the 90 at Selhurst. Noble's place might be in jeopardy.

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Post by stubbsy07 » Sun Oct 02, 2011 9:24 pm

prophet:marginal wrote:I think Papa Wardrobe Diop is a likely feature of our midfield, after his display for the 90 at Selhurst. Noble's place might be in jeopardy.
Rightly so in my opinion. Diop is a much better defensive midfielder than Noble, it's natural too him. Noble isn't disciplined enough and isn't good enough in the tackle. Having said that, Noble hasn't provided one assist either this season. I think he will be on the bench for the visit of Blackpool.

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Post by Gerblatz » Sun Oct 02, 2011 9:30 pm

prophet:marginal wrote:I think Papa Wardrobe Diop is a likely feature of our midfield, after his display for the 90 at Selhurst. Noble's place might be in jeopardy.
That's fair enough; he should be made to compete for his place - after a decent start to the season, he's lost it a bit. Jack Collison is in a similar situation; both need to up their games.

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Post by prophet:marginal » Sun Oct 02, 2011 9:33 pm

I may be wrong, but every likely permutation of the team in it, with both Wardrobe and Nolan, suggests a lone front man - with the repeated issues of insufficient support.

Team's crying out for some lengthy Baldock pitch time, imo.

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Post by TheGavnor » Sun Oct 02, 2011 9:38 pm

prophet:marginal wrote:Team's crying out for some lengthy Baldock pitch time, imo.
:thup:

Yesterday when he came on he was chasing everything down, putting himself about and was making a nuisance of himself to the Palace defenders. He offers something different up top that we need very desperately at the moment.

Ok, it didn't work against Ipswich, but to be fair to him in that game we were still lobbing in long balls when he was crying out for some time on the ball.

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Re: Crystal Palace FC v West Ham United - match thread

Post by The Rebirth » Sun Oct 02, 2011 9:39 pm

prophet:marginal wrote:I may be wrong, but every likely permutation of the team in it, with both Wardrobe and Nolan, suggests a lone front man - with the repeated issues of insufficient support.

Team's crying out for some lengthy Baldock pitch time, imo.
No I actually think Diop means we can play 4-4-2 in a diamond formation utilising our full backs (demel/faubert) and Macca

We played that way when Baldock and Carew were on Palace defended quite narrowly and Linda got forward a lot more.

We could use Bentley, Lansbury, Collison or Noble in the 2 in the middle slot. Nolan tracks back anyway.

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Re: Crystal Palace FC v West Ham United - match thread

Post by Gnome » Sun Oct 02, 2011 9:41 pm

Romford wrote:Had he seen you scoff those jellied eels last night...he'd want to come here 8-)
Of course - in fact if Messi knew about jellied eels he'd ditch Barcelona like a shot. I'm surprised that we don't stick it in player contracts!

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Re: Crystal Palace FC v West Ham United - match thread

Post by the pink palermo » Sun Oct 02, 2011 9:41 pm

Proph

I agree Diop shored us up yesterday , and Noble may be under threat .

An option for Sam could be

------------------------------------------------Green-------------------------------------------

JoB---------------------Faye------------------Tomkins----------------McCartney

-------------------------------------------Diop-------------------------------------------------

Faubert------------Nolan--------------------------Noble--------------------Taylor


----------------------------------------Cole-----------------------------------------------

With Nolan getting forward to support Cole , safe in the knowledge that Diop will cover the defence - which has not been Nobles purpose either .

Game changers off the bench to go to 4-4-2 could be Baldock, Carew, Reid, Lansbury / Bentley , with Noble and Cole going off for Cole and Noble .

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Re: Crystal Palace FC v West Ham United - match thread

Post by Gerblatz » Sun Oct 02, 2011 9:43 pm

prophet:marginal wrote:I may be wrong, but every likely permutation of the team in it, with both Wardrobe and Nolan, suggests a lone front man - with the repeated issues of insufficient support.

Team's crying out for some lengthy Baldock pitch time, imo.
Spot on, we do...which is what we saw when Sam switched it and went 442.

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Re: Crystal Palace FC v West Ham United - match thread

Post by The Rebirth » Sun Oct 02, 2011 9:53 pm

the pink palermo wrote:Proph

I agree Diop shored us up yesterday , and Noble may be under threat .

An option for Sam could be

------------------------------------------------Green-------------------------------------------

JoB---------------------Faye------------------Tomkins----------------McCartney

-------------------------------------------Diop-------------------------------------------------

Faubert------------Nolan--------------------------Noble--------------------Taylor


----------------------------------------Cole-----------------------------------------------

With Nolan getting forward to support Cole , safe in the knowledge that Diop will cover the defence - which has not been Nobles purpose either .

Game changers off the bench to go to 4-4-2 could be Baldock, Carew, Reid, Lansbury / Bentley , with Noble and Cole going off for Cole and Noble .
I think Collison when fitter for Taylor and Noble for Baldock plus I seem to think that Faubert prefers RB but I reckon Demel will be our wide man on the right.

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Re: Crystal Palace FC v West Ham United - match thread

Post by prophet:marginal » Sun Oct 02, 2011 9:54 pm

the pink palermo wrote: Game changers off the bench to go to 4-4-2 could be Baldock, Carew, Reid, Lansbury / Bentley , with Noble and Cole going off for Cole and Noble .
That's either a plan so cunning that other teams would be dumb-struck, or

You're pissed.

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Re: Crystal Palace FC v West Ham United - match thread

Post by the pink palermo » Sun Oct 02, 2011 10:06 pm

prophet:marginal wrote: You're pissed.

:D
b*llocks - it was a typo , I meant cole off and Carew on - as you well know, just checking to see if you were paying attention .... .

Smileything .

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Post by prophet:marginal » Sun Oct 02, 2011 10:13 pm

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Re: Crystal Palace FC v West Ham United - match thread

Post by Romford » Sun Oct 02, 2011 10:53 pm

I think our biggest problem at the moment is getting players forward....we just don't push players up enough.

Watching Chelsea earlier...every time they scored they had half a dozen bods in the box.

Apart from set pieces...when do we EVER have even 3 players up that far.

Its boring, its cowardly and most seriously...its not bloody working Headbanger

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Re: Crystal Palace FC v West Ham United - match thread

Post by irving boleyn » Sun Oct 02, 2011 10:56 pm

A slight glimmer of hope..the defensive qualities of Dioup allowing the full backs to bomb, well perhaps not bomb, get forward more.

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Re: Crystal Palace FC v West Ham United - match thread

Post by the pink palermo » Sun Oct 02, 2011 10:58 pm

Romford wrote: Its boring, its cowardly and most seriously...its not bloody working
Where were you 3 hours ago ? :lol:

I think Sam does not yet know his best team - the price we pay for late additions in the transfer window .

I think he may risk getting a few more forward with Diop as a DM.

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