COCSF2: West Ham Utd 0-3 Manchester City (21/01/14)

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Re: West Ham United Vs Man City COC sf 2nd leg MT

Post by James P » Wed Jan 22, 2014 1:00 pm

Billy, what you are describing is Christian Dailly Syndrome

When you are bad enough for long enough, doing the bare minimum with no monumental f*** ups garners completely inappropriate levels of praise.

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Post by Billydinho » Wed Jan 22, 2014 1:06 pm

James P wrote:Billy, what you are describing is Christian Dailly Syndrome

When you are bad enough for long enough, doing the bare minimum with no monumental **** ups garners completely inappropriate levels of praise.
That's exactly it.

Though now it applies to the whole team.

We're paying amongst the highest prices to watch footballers earning more money a week than most of us earn a year and we get excited by the fact they complete a pass or win a tackle or, as I've seen in some Nolan apologists' comments, "closing down the opposition".

50k a week is justified by closing down the opposition? My word. Please tell me some you aren't business owners. If you are, can I have a job?

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Re: West Ham United Vs Man City COC sf 2nd leg MT

Post by bubbles1966 » Wed Jan 22, 2014 1:11 pm

FWIW, Diarra's pass accuracy last night was 89% (above our norm), he won more headers than anyone on the pitch other than Woger and he made the same number of tackles and interceptions that Noble normally does. :|

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Re: West Ham United Vs Man City COC sf 2nd leg MT

Post by vind » Wed Jan 22, 2014 1:20 pm

I went last night, it wasnt as bad as I imagined but felt like a pre-season friendly.

I thought Man City were very good , their movement, passing and pressing was exceptional. Overall there were some glimpses from us that made me positive e.g. Carroll, C Cole, Joe Cole and Morrison and even Diame. Diame didn't look like he was playing to get out

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Re: West Ham United Vs Man City COC sf 2nd leg MT

Post by bobbymooresbracelet » Wed Jan 22, 2014 1:22 pm

The only bright spark from an otherwise usual toothless performance was Carroll doing 45 mins

Our defence wouldn't look out of place at f*cking Billy Smarts circus.

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Post by beckton » Wed Jan 22, 2014 1:30 pm

bubbles1966 wrote:FWIW, Diarra's pass accuracy last night was 89% (above our norm), he won more headers than anyone on the pitch other than Woger and he made the same number of tackles and interceptions that Noble normally does. :|


The commentator on Sky last night was constantly getting Diarra, Diame and Carlton mixed up. Any chance that the person compiling those stats did as well?

From my armchair Diarra looked bloody awful.

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Post by bobbymooresbracelet » Wed Jan 22, 2014 1:35 pm

He must have been pissed Diarra was absolute dogshit

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Post by Aceface » Wed Jan 22, 2014 1:44 pm

James P wrote:Billy, what you are describing is Christian Dailly Syndrome

When you are bad enough for long enough, doing the bare minimum with no monumental **** ups garners completely inappropriate levels of praise.
We can re-name it Gary O'Neil syndrome now. Although that particular affliction also includes elements of a reputation improving by not being around. It's a potent mix

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Re: West Ham United Vs Man City COC sf 2nd leg MT

Post by bubbles1966 » Wed Jan 22, 2014 2:06 pm

beckton wrote:The commentator on Sky last night was constantly getting Diarra, Diame and Carlton mixed up. Any chance that the person compiling those stats did as well?

From my armchair Diarra looked bloody awful.
Personally, I felt he kept it pretty simple and didn't give it away much. Our passing was actually a bit tidier than usual - especially Nolan's in the first half, though Diame was shocking out wide in the second half.

The bigger problem from my perspective was the midfield and defence parting like the red sea on occasion.

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Re: West Ham United Vs Man City COC sf 2nd leg MT

Post by the pink palermo » Wed Jan 22, 2014 2:22 pm

bubbles1966 wrote: The bigger problem from my perspective was the midfield and defence parting like the red sea on occasion.
We've had that problem all season .

A positionally disciplined DM would solve it .

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Post by bobbymooresbracelet » Wed Jan 22, 2014 2:25 pm

the pink palermo wrote:
We've had that problem all season .

A positionally disciplined DM would solve it .
As would decent defenders.

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Post by Hampshire Hammer » Wed Jan 22, 2014 2:26 pm

Ok, thanks I wondered who the latest player was who could do nothing right; now I know that I must slag off Diarra I'm sorted. ;)

He had a reasonable game, doing nothing special in a role that is overlooked by most fans it seems.

The guy behind us constantly got Diarra and Diame mixed up.

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Post by sanchoz » Wed Jan 22, 2014 5:42 pm

Just wondering why does Rat play like he is wearing one of those onsies being advertisied on the big screens during the match?

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Post by Crouchend_Hammer » Wed Jan 22, 2014 5:46 pm

Diarra should play next game. He wasn't great but he was far from rubbish.
He has hardly played in two seasons but doesn't seem to get the same slack that Carroll gets in terms of being rusty after returning from serious injury

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Post by Hammer83 » Wed Jan 22, 2014 5:52 pm

bubbles1966 wrote: The bigger problem from my perspective was the midfield and defence parting like the red sea on occasion.
the pink palermo wrote:We've had that problem all season .

A positionally disciplined DM would solve it .


Nigel De Jong :wink:

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Post by beckton » Wed Jan 22, 2014 6:34 pm

the pink palermo wrote:
We've had that problem all season .

A positionally disciplined DM would solve it .

Where was Diarra meant to be playing?

I was watching on tele, I just presumed that's what he was meant to be doing.

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Post by delbert » Wed Jan 22, 2014 6:37 pm

Some people are having a moan about some of our players lack of ability/skill which is fair enough. A bigger problem for me is that it doesn't take a mass of skill to close down the opposition or correctly position your self, what's the excuse for that?

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Re: West Ham United Vs Man City COC sf 2nd leg MT

Post by bubbles1966 » Wed Jan 22, 2014 7:14 pm

beckton wrote:Where was Diarra meant to be playing?

I was watching on tele, I just presumed that's what he was meant to be doing.
He was in the right place to do the "professional" thing to Lopes on the 2nd goal but didn't. I'm not sure why? Our fear of free kicks 25-30 yards out?

For the third the replays show him tracking Fernandinho who laid the ball off to Negredo.

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Post by Welling » Wed Jan 22, 2014 7:53 pm

I really do wonder what Julian Dicks and Stuart Pearce would make of our Left Back (The rugged, Romanian with 94 caps), wearing gloves! :thdn:

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Post by Romford » Wed Jan 22, 2014 7:58 pm

Welling wrote:I really do wonder what Julian Dicks and Stuart Pearce would make of our Left Back (The rugged, Romanian with 94 caps), wearing gloves! :thdn:
I'm more worried about him not being able to pass a ball or mark a player.....Romania must be cack these days

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