West Ham Utd 1-1 Stoke City (11/04/15)
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Re: West Ham United v Stoke City: Match Thread.
Kouyate had another good game and fight better in both ends of the field, than anyone else.
Valencia had energy and a good first half.
Ginge does the things he can.
The rest disappointed us today, and Downing is a shadow of what he was earlier, played in the middle. Jenk and Cresswell have both lost momentum.
Really sad, sad changes from Sam! Song off to have Nolan on when we are one up. God help us...
Even if we conceded once again in overtime we should be pretty happy to go off the field with one point.
Having 35 percent possession at home against Stoke says it all...
Was this some sort of vengeance from Sam?
Valencia had energy and a good first half.
Ginge does the things he can.
The rest disappointed us today, and Downing is a shadow of what he was earlier, played in the middle. Jenk and Cresswell have both lost momentum.
Really sad, sad changes from Sam! Song off to have Nolan on when we are one up. God help us...
Even if we conceded once again in overtime we should be pretty happy to go off the field with one point.
Having 35 percent possession at home against Stoke says it all...
Was this some sort of vengeance from Sam?
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Re: West Ham United v Stoke City: Match Thread.
Sorry mate, we are just going to have to agreeto disagree. I've never played under or seen a manager make a double sub on 50mins at 1-0 up.WHU_Del wrote: Yes. If he wanted Morgan on, he should have put Morgan on. Or there's always the option of a double change. If he was going to put Morgan on for Valencia, but Sakho got injured, take them both off and put Morgan and Cole (or Nene) on at the same time.
I totally get that people are p!ssed off with Sam and I agree with those who say his time is up. But my point still stands, sometimes the players need to look at themselves. With the exception of Collins, Cresswell and Kouyate for his effort we looked like a team on the beach.
It was the players who didn't give a toss today, some will just heap that on Sam as well and say it is a reflection of him, but for me a pro player should put a shift in regardless.
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Re: West Ham United v Stoke City: Match Thread.
This is how I feel as well. To go from Champs league spot at Christmas to (probably) bottom half of the table is a disastrous half season. Watching every other team have bundles more desire to win is embarrassing and boring, and inevitably this lack of desire leads to us conceding late goals far too often.libero wrote:Thanks for everything Sam, but the last 2 matches have made me come off the fence
Time to go
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Re: West Ham United v Stoke City: Match Thread.
IMHO, I think Stoke have an overall better squad than us. Maybe not defensively, but up front and midfield they are more determined, quicker and creative. Yes, some of our players are better and cost more but overall , and I am sad to admit it, Stoke look stronger. Hughes seem to be motivating them to work really hard in every game, while some of ours are already in 3rd gear. Sam needs to kick a few backsides (ie. Downing) and threaten to drop them in the reserves - unacceptable. Looking at Burnley game and quite relieved that 2 of their players have been booked (we had 3 booked) so looks like we are still top of Fair Play League.
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Re: West Ham United v Stoke City: Match Thread.
Awful game . Worse result . Out muscled out fought out thought .
Re: West Ham United v Stoke City: Match Thread.
sullivan's lad isn't holding back his thoughts on why we were useless today:
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Re: West Ham United v Stoke City: Match Thread.
Heading back now. The good: Creswell's free kick. Some witty chanting. Spurs losing
The bad: holy crap what a sack of **** we were. If stoke had any kind of attack we'd have been slaughtered. Bad sub taking Song off - they had masses of space afterwards. Noble my god, delays and delays and delays and gives the pass when it's either the wrong pass or the right pass far too late. Hoofing the ball up front over and over again - I don't think we won the ball once the entire game. 2 shots on target all game, 1 of them a free kick. That ****ing arse of a ref. Our complete inabilty to mark or track players - repeatedly losr Stoke players in front of the box. The huge gap between attack and midfield
Did i mention that we were ****ing awful?
The bad: holy crap what a sack of **** we were. If stoke had any kind of attack we'd have been slaughtered. Bad sub taking Song off - they had masses of space afterwards. Noble my god, delays and delays and delays and gives the pass when it's either the wrong pass or the right pass far too late. Hoofing the ball up front over and over again - I don't think we won the ball once the entire game. 2 shots on target all game, 1 of them a free kick. That ****ing arse of a ref. Our complete inabilty to mark or track players - repeatedly losr Stoke players in front of the box. The huge gap between attack and midfield
Did i mention that we were ****ing awful?
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Re: West Ham United v Stoke City: Match Thread.
Some of that's a bit strong isn't it.Karlos wrote:sullivan's lad isn't holding back his thoughts on why we were useless today:
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Truely unprofessional.Karlos wrote:sullivan's lad isn't holding back his thoughts on why we were useless today:
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Re: West Ham United v Stoke City: Match Thread.
Oh give it a rest FFS. Cost us the game? Have a word with yourself.Puff Daddy wrote:Thought Carlton was unbelievably poor when he came on. Did absolutely the sum of nothing and also cost us the game
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Re: West Ham United v Stoke City: Match Thread.
On 90 minutes plus 4.5, all he had to do was control a ball played up to him wide right and keep it for around 10 seconds, but he couldn't, the ball was stolen off him, they broke down the right and you know the restkaybee15 wrote:
Oh give it a rest FFS. Cost us the game? Have a word with yourself.
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Re: West Ham United v Stoke City: Match Thread.
It's one part of the toxic environment. Not very good in this kind of situation.Iron Mark wrote: Why does a 12(?) year old kid need to be professional?
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Re: West Ham United v Stoke City: Match Thread.
That was shocking.
Stoke weren't great and they deserved to win.
Today was the first time ever I was at a West Ham game and wanted to f*** off home...yet still didn't and was rewarded by another late conceded goal :lol:.
Feel really disappointed. Be glad when the season ends.
Stoke weren't great and they deserved to win.
Today was the first time ever I was at a West Ham game and wanted to f*** off home...yet still didn't and was rewarded by another late conceded goal :lol:.
Feel really disappointed. Be glad when the season ends.
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Re: West Ham United v Stoke City: Match Thread.
Sadly Downing's September to early December spell looks like a purple patch and he's back to his normal form of the last 5 or so years.PrinceH wrote: Downing is a shadow of what he was earlier, played in the middle.
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Re: West Ham United v Stoke City: Match Thread.
I'm still here.richard99cook wrote:All the Allardyce fanboys seem to have gone quiet...
Stick.