Burnley 1-1 West Ham Utd (14/10/17)

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Re: Burnley v West Ham Utd: match thread

Post by MikeNewell'sOldBoys » Tue Oct 03, 2017 8:40 am

Back to the formation that worked well in Bilic's first season.

----------------Hart--------------
Zabaleta-Reid-Ogbonna-Masuaku
---------Kouyate-Noble---
Antonio----Lanzini----------Arnautovic
------------Hernandez

We have enough physicality and height in Kouyate, Antonio and Arnie to justify not starting Carroll.
Would be tempted to put Rice in instead of Noble to cover for Kouyate wandering off after about 65 mins.

If Bilic wants to stay with 5 a the back then...

----------------------Hart--------------
Zabaleta-Fonte-Reid-Ogbonna-Masuaku
--------------Kouyate-Lanzini---
--------Antonio--------------Arnautovic
-----------------Hernandez

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Re: Burnley v West Ham Utd: match thread

Post by seaside hammer » Tue Oct 03, 2017 9:37 am

Burnley are undefeated in 5 ( All of Sept) and lets be honest have been excellent so far this season, this game shouldn't be taken lightly.

WH have a decent record up there and have the squad capable of getting a result just depends on Slav's selection / tactics.

I think it works in our favour the International break because after their win at Everton they will be buzzing and wanting to go and play this week to keep the momentum so the break will be a frustration to them.

being a betting man I am gonna go for a 1-0 win - yes another clean sheet! but a boring as **** game as Slav seems to be setting up his teams this way recently.

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Re: Burnley v West Ham Utd: match thread

Post by Burnley Hammer » Tue Oct 03, 2017 9:54 am

They ping a lot of balls into the box. Vokes is very good in the air and they'll feed off loose balls caused by his aerial challenges. They all work hard and will press us. They're also very well organised positionally. The second they lose the ball, their players are quickly back in their defensive positions which make them hard to break down with a slow build up.

Best way to beat them is to match them for work and aggression, stay very solid, organised, and no nonsense at the back with plenty of height in there (Collins would have been useful for this one), and hit them with pace when we do have the ball. I would certainly be looking at the likes of Sakho and Hernandez for this one ahead of Carroll. As organised as Burnleys defence is, it's not the quickest.

If we go 4-2-3-1 then I'd have a front 4 of Masuaku, Lanzini, Antonio, and hernandez

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Re: Burnley v West Ham Utd: match thread

Post by fmgod » Tue Oct 03, 2017 9:57 am

This is going to be hard, tough, probably boring game, ultra well drilled side, really rate Dyche, with the money we've spent, you would hope the likes of Arnie will provide a bit of spark to make the difference, Lanzini back. Worse thing that can happen is we concede first, they barely let in any goals.

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Re: Burnley v West Ham Utd: match thread

Post by YorksHammer » Tue Oct 03, 2017 10:05 am

Only just realised how far off this one. If I was basing the team on last weekend, I'd go as follows

------------------------- Hart ----------------------------
Zabaleta ------ Fonte --- Reid ---------- Masuaku
Antonio - Noble - Obiang - Lanzini - Arnautovic
------------------------ Sakho ---------------------------

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Re: Burnley v West Ham Utd: match thread

Post by only1post » Tue Oct 03, 2017 11:29 am

Crosses, corners, shots on target put their young keeper under pressure and he will make mistakes.
Everton did not do this.
Plus, I know it's a bit radical, but why don't we try and get Hernandez more than one touch in their box.
We will win this.

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Re: Burnley v West Ham Utd: match thread

Post by simon hammer » Tue Oct 03, 2017 11:46 am

3-4-1-2

Hart

Kouyate, Reid, Fonte

Zabaleta, Noble, Obiang, Masuaku

Lanzini

Hernandez, Sakho.

Subs: Adrian, Antonio, Ayew, Arnie, Carroll, Cresswell, Rice.

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Re: Burnley v West Ham Utd: match thread

Post by Puff Daddy » Tue Oct 03, 2017 12:31 pm

only1post wrote:Crosses, corners, shots on target put their young keeper under pressure and he will make mistakes.
Everton did not do this.
Plus, I know it's a bit radical, but why don't we try and get Hernandez more than one touch in their box.
We will win this.
Not only that mate, lots of good old fashioned hoofing too. I have a strong feeling, this lot wouldn't like it up 'em

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Re: Burnley v West Ham Utd: match thread

Post by mumbles87 » Tue Oct 03, 2017 1:49 pm

----------------Hart

Zabs---Reid------Fonte---Maskuku

----------Obiang--Kouyate

---------------Lanzini

Sahko----Hernandez----Antonio


CHARGE

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Re: Burnley v West Ham Utd: match thread

Post by fmgod » Tue Oct 03, 2017 2:01 pm

Pope the keeper is 25 not 18, he may not be Lev Yashin but he's not a kid.

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Re: Burnley v West Ham Utd: match thread

Post by Ladzini » Tue Oct 03, 2017 3:22 pm

mumbles87 wrote:----------------Hart

Zabs---Reid------Fonte---Maskuku

----------Obiang--Kouyate

---------------Lanzini

Sahko----Hernandez----Antonio


CHARGE
Like the look of that one. However I would be surprised if Slav sticks with 4atb for an away game.

If he does I'd like what you've done there. If he doesn't I would go for this;

------------------ Hart

----------Zab Fonte Reid

------Antonio Kouyate Obiang Masuaku

------------------- Lanzini

---------- Sakho Hernandez


Antonio will be covered by zabaleta enough to bomb forward. We just need to ensure the wingbacks provide the width and kouyate and obiang are disciplined enough to get back. They have the athleticism between them to do so.

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Re: Burnley v West Ham Utd: match thread

Post by JLCABA » Tue Oct 03, 2017 5:16 pm

I rarely join in with this but here's my 2 penneth


Hart

Kouyate ......Reid .............Ogbonna ( is he fit ? not too many selecting him)

Zabaleta...............Noble ......Obiang .......................Masuako

Antonio.................Lanzini

Hernandez

Fonte for Ogbonna if the latter isn't fit ...Get Antonio close to Hernandez like an old Inside Right ?

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Re: Burnley v West Ham Utd: match thread

Post by Adam 'The Smudge' » Tue Oct 03, 2017 5:53 pm

Think a draw up there would be a decent result.
With only 7 goals in 7 games I'd go for a 1-1.

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Re: Burnley v West Ham Utd: match thread

Post by bowltorious » Tue Oct 03, 2017 6:17 pm

-------------------------Hart
--------Kouyate-----Reid----Ogbonna
Zabaleta----Lanzini-----Obiang-----Masuaku
------------Antonio--------Arnautovic
---------------------Hernandez

Against the lesser teams this would be my choice, plenty of pace and creativity to break teams down. Against the better ones I would put Kouyate back in the centre and move Lanzini into Arnies role.

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Re: Burnley v West Ham Utd: match thread

Post by dvincent » Tue Oct 03, 2017 6:25 pm

The only way that we will beat Burnley is if we match their workrate and determination. Dyche has created a very good atmosphere in the dressing room and you can see each and every player giving 110% for their manager. I would go with a 433 or 4231 formation for this game. This stops them doubling up on us on the wings and gives us pace to break on the counter. Bring on Arnie and one of Carroll/Sakho if we are having trouble unlocking their defence.

--------------Hart---------------------
Zaba Fonte Reid Cresswell
---------Noble Kouyate----------
Antonio Lanzini Masuaku
---------Hernandez---------------

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Re: Burnley v West Ham Utd: match thread

Post by brothernero » Tue Oct 03, 2017 6:32 pm

If we get a win up there, it would be our 6th straight win v Burnley. Not to many times we have done that v anyone. In fact we have a very good record of late versus them.

Last 19 games played against Burnley. P19 W14 D3 L2 F40 A17 GD +23

They are a hard team to break down and well drilled. Would be more than happy with a draw. 1-1 will do me.

Think at some point we have to be due an away Penalty, cant recall the last one we got.

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Re: Burnley v West Ham Utd: match thread

Post by Puff Daddy » Tue Oct 03, 2017 6:44 pm

This lot are our bunnies

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Re: Burnley v West Ham Utd: match thread

Post by HammerAl » Tue Oct 03, 2017 8:43 pm

bowltorious wrote:-------------------------Hart
--------Kouyate-----Reid----Ogbonna
Zabaleta----Lanzini-----Obiang-----Masuaku
------------Antonio--------Arnautovic
---------------------Hernandez

Against the lesser teams this would be my choice, plenty of pace and creativity to break teams down. Against the better ones I would put Kouyate back in the centre and move Lanzini into Arnies role.
That would be my starting XI but Fonte and Ogbonna is 50/50 for me.

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Re: Burnley v West Ham Utd: match thread

Post by szola » Wed Oct 04, 2017 5:28 am

I would respect the point.

Three at the back again.

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Re: Burnley v West Ham Utd: match thread

Post by TommyHammer » Wed Oct 04, 2017 6:25 am

They've been better away from home this season so far. They lost to WBA, drew to Huddersfield and beat a Palace side who I thought were unfortunate not to come away with anything from Turf Moor. So frustrating that with the quality we have in this side we still play some poor poor football. We should be beating this mob and anything less than a win is a bad result in my eyes, only due to the fact that 7 points from 7 games just is not good enough. But knowing West Ham and Bilic (though this is for another thread) it will probably be a 0-0 or a 1-1.

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