EFLCR4: Tottenham Hotspur 2-3 West Ham Utd (25/10/17)

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Re: Tottenham Hotspur v West Ham Utd: match thread

Post by happy.hooker » Thu Oct 26, 2017 12:53 pm

Wembley1966 wrote: It was taken from the international live broadcast - here's the relevant bit on beIN:

https://youtu.be/AcSvE_v3OJM?t=580
Thanks Wembley. Nobes really is a leader. Interesting listening to a less biased analysis.

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Re: Tottenham Hotspur v West Ham Utd: match thread

Post by miketheloop » Thu Oct 26, 2017 1:05 pm

First goal was definitely down to Nobles poor marking, just let him run straight past him.

Second goal was a fluke, the Deflection took it past Adrian, you could see he had it covered till then.

Fantastic second half tho :D

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Re: Tottenham Hotspur v West Ham Utd: match thread

Post by Johnny Byrne's Boots » Thu Oct 26, 2017 1:08 pm

chuffster wrote:Well, The Mirror has now picked up the piss throwing video, let's see what 'outrage' we see from the press... :wink:
As Peter Alliss said when a streaker ran onto the course, "What a lot of fuss over a little thing like that"

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Re: Tottenham Hotspur v West Ham Utd: match thread

Post by SammyLeeWasOffside » Thu Oct 26, 2017 1:18 pm

miketheloop wrote:First goal was definitely down to Nobles poor marking, just let him run straight past him.
Gonna have to find a clip and watch it again I guess, thats not how I saw it at all.

From my (admittedly cloudy lol) memory. Kouyate charges upfield leaving a gap, Noble starts to go across to cover that gap, when he starts to go across he has lanzini in place covering sissoko. Where it breaks down is a combination of Noble not telling Lanzini to stay with the man and Lanzini not realising he should.

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Re: Tottenham Hotspur v West Ham Utd: match thread

Post by costa75 » Thu Oct 26, 2017 1:22 pm

When ever I've been in the home end at away matches I've always been very respectful, and nobody would have known I was West Ham, and that's the way it should be, but last night was different.......

I've never been so frustrated, and depressed by West Ham as I was after Brighton, and the first half last night. When that third goal went in, I'm ashamed to say that I lost all composure and totally lost it........Safe to say, my Spurs mate was not impressed, but I could not help it, and thankfully I wasn't the only one, but those last twenty minutes seemed to be running backwards. A magic night.......

Very happy for Slav........

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Post by miketheloop » Thu Oct 26, 2017 1:28 pm

Yeah have another look Sammy, don’t get me wrong Kouyate didn’t help
Matters charging in. But Noble let sissoko ghost
Past him and didn’t bust a gut to get back.

I’ve done it myself, actually did it Monday night in five a side!
You know you should track the run and feel guilty as f*** when they score.
But I’m not a pro footballer playing for the club I love.

Not trying to dig him out, I love the geeza. Just saying it how I saw it.

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Post by mattyD » Thu Oct 26, 2017 1:30 pm

miketheloop wrote:First goal was definitely down to Nobles poor marking, just let him run straight past him.
er... no, it was because Kouyate went AWOL into the midfield trying to win the ball, Rice had also pushed up and was taken out the game by Llorente's f***: two of your three CDs out the game, then Ogbonna allowed Son to move inside. I think Sissoko running past Nobes was the least of it, he'd run past any midfielder in the league given the opportunity like that.

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Post by miketheloop » Thu Oct 26, 2017 1:32 pm

Er yes it was.

Just because one of the boys has seen red and pulled people out of position doesn’t mean you turn off and say not my job.

He let him run past him plain and simple. Watch it again.

Like I said, love Nobes, just being honest.

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Post by Devils Advocate » Thu Oct 26, 2017 1:33 pm

The search outside the ground was nothing if not thorough...

Guy waves the wand over me
"What's in that pocket"
"Packet of mints" Had to get them out to show him

Guy waves the wand over another bit
"What's in that pocket"
"Keys" Had to get them out to show him

Guy waves the wand over another bit
"What's in that pocket"
"Earphones" Had to get them out to show him

Guy waves the wand over another bit
"What's in that pocket"
"Phone" Had to get it out to show him

Guy waves the wand over another bit
"What's in that pocket"
"Oyster card" Had to get it out to show him

Guy waves the wand over another bit
"What's in that pocket"
"Nothing"
"Wand says there is"
Had to open up pocket to prove it was empty

Then the pat down inside the ground, which was the complete opposite, finding nothing.

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Re: Tottenham Hotspur v West Ham Utd: match thread

Post by Denzil » Thu Oct 26, 2017 1:35 pm

miketheloop wrote:First goal was definitely down to Nobles poor marking, just let him run straight past him.
mattyD wrote:
er... no, it was because Kouyate went AWOL into the midfield trying to win the ball, Rice had also pushed up and was taken out the game by Llorente's f***: two of your three CDs out the game, then Ogbonna allowed Son to move inside. I think Sissoko running past Nobes was the least of it, he'd run past any midfielder in the league given the opportunity like that.
Yep, first goal definitely down to Kouyate. As soon as I saw him press high I thought "wtf is he doing there", once the ball was played forward it was harder not to score.

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Re: Tottenham Hotspur v West Ham Utd: match thread

Post by miketheloop » Thu Oct 26, 2017 1:39 pm

Well I ain’t the only one to spot it. It’s a team game at end of the day.

Personally I feel if Nobes has tracked him and put him under more pressure he wouldn’t of had so much time to pick his spot.

Again I already mentioned Kauyates rashness. But ultimately you can’t let someone just run past you without even making the effort to get back.

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Post by szola » Thu Oct 26, 2017 1:45 pm

Very good, Wembley :thup:

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Re: Tottenham Hotspur v West Ham Utd: match thread

Post by StackerJJ » Thu Oct 26, 2017 1:46 pm

Devils Advocate wrote:The search outside the ground was nothing if not thorough...

Guy waves the wand over me
"What's in that pocket"
"Packet of mints" Had to get them out to show him

Guy waves the wand over another bit
"What's in that pocket"
"Keys" Had to get them out to show him

Guy waves the wand over another bit
"What's in that pocket"
"Earphones" Had to get them out to show him

Guy waves the wand over another bit
"What's in that pocket"
"Phone" Had to get it out to show him

Guy waves the wand over another bit
"What's in that pocket"
"Oyster card" Had to get it out to show him

Guy waves the wand over another bit
"What's in that pocket"
"Nothing"
"Wand says there is"
Had to open up pocket to prove it was empty

Then the pat down inside the ground, which was the complete opposite, finding nothing.
You got searched by Harry Potter?

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Re: Tottenham Hotspur v West Ham Utd: match thread

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Post by k-r-c » Thu Oct 26, 2017 1:48 pm

I just wandered past them all and no one even attempted to stop me to search me.

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Post by k-r-c » Thu Oct 26, 2017 1:49 pm

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Good to hear he is alright. Was right next to me as i was going in.

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Post by bristolhammerfc » Thu Oct 26, 2017 1:50 pm

miketheloop wrote:Well I ain’t the only one to spot it. It’s a team game at end of the day.
Agree. Noble actually looks to his right at the player as he passes him and continues to jog back.

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Post by SammyLeeWasOffside » Thu Oct 26, 2017 1:55 pm

miketheloop wrote:Yeah have another look Sammy, don’t get me wrong Kouyate didn’t help
Matters charging in. But Noble let sissoko ghost
Past him and didn’t bust a gut to get back.

I’ve done it myself, actually did it Monday night in five a side!
You know you should track the run and feel guilty as **** when they score.
But I’m not a pro footballer playing for the club I love.

Not trying to dig him out, I love the geeza. Just saying it how I saw it.
Ok had a look. I think it looks worse than it was. He is definitely drawn across to the gap Kouyate left (at that point both Noble and Lanzini are in the vicinity of Sissoko). Noble leaves Sissoko to go towards where Llorente is (I assume thinking Lanzini can cover), Sissoko runs into the gap he leaves, Noble looks over his shoulder and sees nobody went with Sissoko.

sissoko runs a straight diagonal, Noble runs a > shape and can't make up the gap. With hindsight he should have tracked the runner rather than be drawn to Llorente but at the moment he makes the decision Llorente is the bigger danger.

More than one thing went wrong and tbf to them Spurs executed perfectly.

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Post by Up the Junction » Thu Oct 26, 2017 1:56 pm

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Post by sutts07 » Thu Oct 26, 2017 2:05 pm

I was cursing Ogbonna in the stands for playing everyone onside for the first goal.

Watching it today there was a string of errors...

Kouyate is our 3rd furthest forward player when the ball breaks to Spurs! Not ideal from a CB. Fernandes was also off the pitch having just crossed it and totally out of the game. Rice gets totally sold by the f*** on and is also out of the game. Sissoko powers past Noble who should have done more to go with him. Ogbonna plays everyone onside.

Basically we just hadn't settled into the game and adapted to wing backs. Very harsh to single out Noble.

Also full credit to Spurs, great counter attack.

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