West Ham United 1-4 Liverpool (04/11/17)

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Re: West Ham United v Liverpool match thread

Post by jacko » Sat Nov 04, 2017 8:30 pm

Hugh Jargon II wrote: We've had it by the way. Nobody can revive this lot. Awful bunch. Payet was right to abandon ship.
Exactly right. The board engineered it very well to make an enemy of the best player we have had for a while. The joke is on us

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Re: West Ham United v Liverpool match thread

Post by costa75 » Sat Nov 04, 2017 8:35 pm

We started each half o.k, but when you concede goals in the manor that we do, you have no chance. Truly woeful defending, and as bad as it gets.

We have players with no fight, no confidence, no fitness, no motivation, and they look tactically clueless.

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Re: West Ham United v Liverpool match thread

Post by simon1982 » Sat Nov 04, 2017 8:42 pm

Peaches wrote:Can't believe how bad Obiang has been. Starting to make Noble look good.
He played On his own in the middle for large chunks of the game.

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Re: West Ham United v Liverpool match thread

Post by Sloffy » Sat Nov 04, 2017 8:51 pm

Ive seen some poor Hammers sides over the years but this one is awful

Today, basic errors from all the players. Tactics and formation was all wrong. The only player with any 'legs' in that starting 11 was Kouyate. He should've been the midfield general, in place of Noble, and Rice brought in at CB. No pace at all in the team. None. Without Antonio, it has to be the slowest West Ham team in history.

Obiang and Fernandes couldn't have played worse if they tried. They were dreadful. Noble is clearly finished at this level.

But the biggest disappointment for me was Reid. He was absolutely terrible, but just seems to blame everybody else.

The players were awful, the manager got it wrong, and if we were playing Man City today I honestly believe they'd have scored 10
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Re: West Ham United v Liverpool match thread

Post by Crouchend_Hammer » Sat Nov 04, 2017 8:51 pm

If I was Obiang I woukd be on the blower to my agent to get him out of here
Pretty much asked to play as a sole central midfielder week in week and out.
Yes, he could break out in a sprint now and again, but he is being left hanging out to dry week in week out

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Re: West Ham United v Liverpool match thread

Post by hammers92 » Sat Nov 04, 2017 8:52 pm

Sack the board

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Re: West Ham United v Liverpool match thread

Post by Humbug » Sat Nov 04, 2017 8:53 pm

Awful amateurish defending again. I thought I'd never see this 'swarm of bees' type defending since infant footballing days. Wow , talk about ball watching !!! This took it to another extreme. We deserved nothing from that game.

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Re: West Ham United v Liverpool match thread

Post by Sloffy » Sat Nov 04, 2017 8:55 pm

Crouchend_Hammer wrote:If I was Obiang I woukd be on the blower to my agent to get him out of here
Pretty much asked to play as a sole central midfielder week in week and out.
Yes, he could break out in a sprint now and again, but he is being left hanging out to dry week in week out
Change 'Obiang' to 'Lanzini' and I'd agree with you.

Pedro was rubbish mate. Awful.

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Re: West Ham United v Liverpool match thread

Post by kenthammer1984 » Sat Nov 04, 2017 8:56 pm

Come on guys. We were up against Liverpool, one of the big 5 or 6 teams.
We did as well as we could considering the circumstances. Slav to stay and we will pick up soon!

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Re: West Ham United v Liverpool match thread

Post by hammer1975 » Sat Nov 04, 2017 8:56 pm

Crouchend_Hammer wrote:If I was Obiang I woukd be on the blower to my agent to get him out of here
Pretty much asked to play as a sole central midfielder week in week and out.
Yes, he could break out in a sprint now and again, but he is being left hanging out to dry week in week out
:thup:

Reid, Fernandes, Cresswell comfortably worse too.

Imagine if we actually had someone like Carvalho to play alongside Pedro - we may not have a midfield that is utterly porous.

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Re: West Ham United v Liverpool match thread

Post by Samba » Sat Nov 04, 2017 9:00 pm

I trust many of you had a wager on the Ox scoring his first league goal for Liverpool, against us?
Nailed on really, wasn't it?

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Re: West Ham United v Liverpool match thread

Post by MB » Sat Nov 04, 2017 9:00 pm

hammer1975 wrote:.

Imagine if we actually had someone like Carvalho to play alongside Pedro - we may not have a midfield that is utterly porous.
It would have been better but it wouldn’t have solved the problem. We are dreadful without the ball. Soft and not interested in pressing.

We sat off and let them play tonight. If they have been bothered to get out of second gear then it would have been 7 or 8 tonight. You could put Kante in our line up and it wouldn’t matter if the whole team doesn’t play with energy or shape.

We were decent with the ball again tonight but not interested in doing the hard graft when they had it.

Has been like this for two years. A DMC on its own won’t solve this.
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Re: West Ham United v Liverpool match thread

Post by smuts » Sat Nov 04, 2017 9:00 pm

kenthammer1984 wrote:Come on guys. We were up against Liverpool, one of the big 5 or 6 teams.
We did as well as we could considering the circumstances. Slav to stay and we will pick up soon!
What about Brighton? Newcastle? 2nd half battering against Palace?

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Re: West Ham United v Liverpool match thread

Post by Crouchend_Hammer » Sat Nov 04, 2017 9:01 pm

If Lanzini gets the moves he obviously wants, he won't last five minutes unless he seriously ups his work rate and effort. He woukd not survive five minutes under Klopp, Mourinho, Pocchettino or Conte

The difference in effort and application between him and firmono/ salah/ sane was like night and day

These top players aren't where they are simply because of their ability, it is down to their effort and work rate.

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Re: West Ham United v Liverpool match thread

Post by prophet:marginal » Sat Nov 04, 2017 9:03 pm

A sad fact has emerged. Our old guard has had it.

Bilic inherited a handful of players who had done well before he arrived, in Reid, Kouyate, Noble and Cresswell. Carroll and Sakho were also around before him, but are obviously much less dependable. Still, with Adrian, that was half a team onto which Bilic could have built something.

To these eyes, he's added Lanzini as an evergreen of optimism, in three years.

Defensively, this team is week in, week out, at sixes and sevens. Reid's new contract is madness. Cresswell has faded.

People are moving around Noble too easily. He literally cannot keep up.

To concede our second and third so soon after other goals speaks of an utter absence of any leader on the pitch.

That was woeful.

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Re: West Ham United v Liverpool match thread

Post by Beavis Danzig » Sat Nov 04, 2017 9:03 pm

Samba wrote:I trust many of you had a wager on the Ox scoring his first league goal for Liverpool, against us?
Nailed on really, wasn't it?
did his best to **** it up too. hit it straight at the keeper twice in a row and got lucky it went through him the second time.
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Re: West Ham United v Liverpool match thread

Post by Lee_WHU » Sat Nov 04, 2017 9:03 pm

Positives:
- thought Ogbonna did alright.

Worst thing about today:
- we're about to hire David Moyes.

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Re: West Ham United v Liverpool match thread

Post by kenthammer1984 » Sat Nov 04, 2017 9:03 pm

Why does Lanzini obviously want a move away?

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Re: West Ham United v Liverpool match thread

Post by Sloffy » Sat Nov 04, 2017 9:09 pm

Samba wrote:I trust many of you had a wager on the Ox scoring his first league goal for Liverpool, against us?
Nailed on really, wasn't it?
Yep

Berahino next

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Re: West Ham United v Liverpool match thread

Post by Dalton » Sat Nov 04, 2017 9:10 pm

Time to get used to the Championship again folks as that is where we are heading back to. All bar Lanzini & Hart look like they are eyeing up next years' summer holiday already. Bilic for Moyes - haha :lol: From the board down the club is a shambles and then all the way back up again. Sad times.

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