West Ham Utd 3-0 Southampton (31/03/18)

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Re: West Ham United v Southampton Match Thread

Post by the bubble hammer » Sun Mar 18, 2018 7:42 pm

Hugh Jargon II wrote:We have no chance. Hughes will know exactly what to do. It's not too hard.
He didn't for Stoke earlier in the season

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Re: West Ham United v Southampton Match Thread

Post by Vic_Watson » Sun Mar 18, 2018 8:50 pm

Vic_Watson wrote:A bit early, I know, but I can't help wondering if the appointment of Hughes is a good thing or a bad thing as far as we're concerned. The kind of guy who could whip a bunch of underachievers into shape?
Well today's result kind of answers that question.

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Re: West Ham United v Southampton Match Thread

Post by Samba » Sun Mar 18, 2018 8:53 pm

I can't see how Moyes should be getting too much blame. We lost Arthur for 6 games & Obiang for the season. That was pure bad luck, if not an assault, on one, stupidity on the other. It has had a negative impact.
We all know whose fault it is that half of our defense has been assembled from Age UK.
If we go down, it's entirely down to our (not so) beloved trio. Even though us fans will get the blame..
Having said all that, Moyes has got to get his tactics right for this one. For Southampton to win away at Wigan was no mean feat. Perhaps Wigan had started to think about their league position..
Soton have won just 5 to our 7 all season, scoring just 29 to our 36. They have drawn 4 more than us though & it would be tempting to expect a draw in this game. That would be less good for them than us, so we should expect that they'll be going for it.
There's no getting away from the fact that our last 3 games results have been nailed on relegation form.
Who am I kidding, our whole season has been.

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Re: West Ham United v Southampton Match Thread

Post by Status Kev » Sun Mar 18, 2018 8:56 pm

the celestial insect wrote:If we can match Wigan's guile in the first half, we'll win. Therein lies the problem. We're going to need 100% desire.
...and a crowd united behind us.

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Re: West Ham United v Southampton Match Thread

Post by Graza » Sun Mar 18, 2018 9:20 pm

Status Kev wrote: ...and a crowd united behind us.
Samba wrote: If we go down, it's entirely down to our (not so) beloved trio. Even though us fans will get the blame..
Well done Brady

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Re: West Ham United v Southampton Match Thread

Post by Westbourne Bill » Sun Mar 18, 2018 10:54 pm

I’m travelling to this game with 2 Saints ST holders. I’m already dreading the train
journey back with them.

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Re: West Ham United v Southampton Match Thread

Post by Humbug » Sun Mar 18, 2018 11:37 pm

Can't see anything but a big win for Soton to be honest because Hughes has a much better squad at his disposal than at Stoke. They have a lot of pace and also Gabbiadini who seems to enjoy scoring against us. Prowse is a good crosser and free kick specialist, Long, Boufal, Redmond, Bertrand are all every quick and will leave our lot struggling to catch up with them. Can only hope for a draw at most but will be pleasantly shocked if we actually win.

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Re: West Ham United v Southampton Match Thread

Post by goa127 » Mon Mar 19, 2018 12:12 am

Having watched the game today I saw little improvement from Southampton to what I've seen (on TV) for the last couple of months. Wigan would have won easily if their front men didn't play like league 1 strikers. Oh, yes that's actually what they are. Saints front players still failed to score even from a penalty. Of course any player on a goal drought scores against us. We shouldn't lose this game but we probably will

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Re: West Ham United v Southampton Match Thread

Post by TheHandOfDog » Mon Mar 19, 2018 1:41 am

Status Kev wrote: ...and a crowd united behind us.
Thing is and I hate saying it but the way Moyes sets up his teams really makes it hard for fans not to fall asleep, let a known really getting behind the team. It was the same under Big Sam, some managers just don't get it, hence the ear cupping etc. It takes the players showing some passion at the minimum for fans to get behind them, it's a 2 way street and unfortunately in the last 3 games our players haven't deserved any support. I mean how do you get behind your team when you are getting smashed by Brighton, Newcastle, Swansea and Burnley week in week out? It's up to the players in my opinion to show they are up for it and earn the crowds respect and support.

Just my opinion of course.

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Re: West Ham United v Southampton Match Thread

Post by Status Kev » Mon Mar 19, 2018 3:32 am

TheHandOfDog wrote: Thing is and I hate saying it but the way Moyes sets up his teams really makes it hard for fans not to fall asleep, let a known really getting behind the team. It was the same under Big Sam, some managers just don't get it, hence the ear cupping etc. It takes the players showing some passion at the minimum for fans to get behind them, it's a 2 way street and unfortunately in the last 3 games our players haven't deserved any support. I mean how do you get behind your team when you are getting smashed by Brighton, Newcastle, Swansea and Burnley week in week out? It's up to the players in my opinion to show they are up for it and earn the crowds respect and support.

Just my opinion of course.
Fair point but I thought we played quite well in the first half against Burnley and but for some poor finishing should have been a couple of goals to the good. Then came the goal which was their first (or maybe second) attack and it all went tits up.

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Re: West Ham United v Southampton Match Thread

Post by IronworksDave » Mon Mar 19, 2018 4:45 am

Why all the gloom and doom we are above Southampton the pressure is all on them ....

If our players don't realize they are looking at serious loss of income, and no more holidays in Miami should we go down, then they're feckin' stupid ... if staying in the EPL can't get them motivated what can?

If we come out firing the fans will get behind the team, we always do ... this game is ours to lose we won't ...
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Re: West Ham United v Southampton Match Thread

Post by Billydinho » Mon Mar 19, 2018 6:26 am

Motes will go for a draw, being the Sam Allardyce wannabe that he is.

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Re: West Ham United v Southampton Match Thread

Post by rciron » Mon Mar 19, 2018 6:58 am

Happy days, really looking forward to this now, another great value day out in sunny Stratford, an underfunded squad, with a confused manager, devoid of options and tactics, an overpaid, unintelligent, demoralised, lazy squad, who are teetering, like a drunken man into the abyss, but hey at least there is the iconic, UEFA cat 4 ****hole running track to look forward to, next level, my arse, living the dream

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Re: West Ham United v Southampton Match Thread

Post by goa127 » Mon Mar 19, 2018 9:49 am

although 'six pointers' rarely turn out to be that, there's no doubt this is a pivotal game for both clubs. A home win gives us one foot over the line an away win throws everything into the melting pot. Especially us A draw could be even more confusing as it would probably maintain the staus quo.

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Re: West Ham United v Southampton Match Thread

Post by Puff Daddy » Mon Mar 19, 2018 11:03 am

Our players will be ****ing petrified as Southampton start the match on the front foot and before we know it, we'll concede and that will be the cue for vitriol from the fans as they start the abuse towards Dildo Daves sitting stoney faced in the stands

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Re: West Ham United v Southampton Match Thread

Post by sutts07 » Mon Mar 19, 2018 11:14 am

Samba wrote:I can't see how Moyes should be getting too much blame.
His in game management (or lack of) against Burnley was as much to blame as anything that any fan did or didn't do on the day. We played well for an hour, they were not in the game at all and it was crying out for someone who could stick the ball in the net.

Had he acted first and thrown a second striker on (or better yet, started Hernandez), there is little doubt in my mind that game would have turned out very differently and we would be going into this game thinking a draw wouldn't be the worst as it keeps Southampton at bay.

Obviously it is easy with hind sight, but there were thousands of us at the game saying the same there and then. As it is, this game is now an absolutely MUST win game.

Too early to think about line ups etc, we will no doubt get 8 injuries playing against the Daggers!

Would like to see Masuaku back in though and Ideally with Lanzini, Arnautovic and Herandez all starting.

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Re: West Ham United v Southampton Match Thread

Post by Briggsy » Mon Mar 19, 2018 12:24 pm

If we don't get a min of 4 points vs Stoke & Southampton, then we will 100% go down.

I think we'll beat Stoke as Lambert is an absolutely terrible manager. Can see this one finishing 1-1 & both managers being happy with the point.

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Re: West Ham United v Southampton Match Thread

Post by TheHandOfDog » Mon Mar 19, 2018 2:06 pm

Status Kev wrote: Fair point but I thought we played quite well in the first half against Burnley and but for some poor finishing should have been a couple of goals to the good. Then came the goal which was their first (or maybe second) attack and it all went tits up.
Agreed, just a shame we didn't score first. You need luck in football and we sure as hell have had none for a long time.

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Re: West Ham United v Southampton Match Thread

Post by 3Dicks » Mon Mar 19, 2018 3:06 pm

Taking my 6yo son to this one. the last game he came with me to was the cup mauling vs. Man city last season... lets hope this one will be less one sided!

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Re: West Ham United v Southampton Match Thread

Post by Row X » Mon Mar 19, 2018 3:10 pm

Arnie will be up for this more now Hughes is there... they didn't see eye to eye back when we played Stoke... plus he'll be up for the Stoke game as well.... our 2 big games :scarfer:

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