Arsenal 4-1 West Ham Utd (22/04/18)

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Re: Arsenal v West Ham United: Match Thread

Post by the pink palermo » Sun Apr 22, 2018 6:59 pm

westham,eggyandchips wrote:Not sure what your point is Pinky?
bubbles1966 wrote: Is it the same one that was being talked about on Talksport before the game?

Ultimately, it was the empty seats that did for Wenger. The huge no-show by the support.
Not the same point, but undoubtedly the empty seats did for Wenger, they fired him, be in no doubt.

My point was about how low we set the bar as supporters in terms of expectations yet we still cannot reach it .

Wenger has delivered their supporters in the past 4 years as many FA cups as we have won in our existence, yet it wasn't deemed acceptable by their support.

We're asking for a little more flair and a better attempt at winning some games ......and yet we seem content with our lot .

Just when will this Board of Directors start to feel real heat for their ineptitude ?

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Re: Arsenal v West Ham United: Match Thread

Post by Patito » Sun Apr 22, 2018 7:15 pm

I hadn’t thought of it that way before TPP but you’ve got a point...

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Re: Arsenal v West Ham United: Match Thread

Post by bubbles1966 » Sun Apr 22, 2018 7:17 pm

the pink palermo wrote:Just when will this Board of Directors start to feel real heat for their ineptitude ?
If we're still on the hook for relegation as we kick off against Everton, maybe even Man U.

Then as the ST renewal deadline approaches.

If Southampton beat Bournemouth next weekend, it's going to be a close run thing because Man City will beat us at a canter next week.
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Re: Arsenal v West Ham United: Match Thread

Post by westham,eggyandchips » Sun Apr 22, 2018 7:18 pm

the pink palermo wrote:
My point was about how low we set the bar as supporters in terms of expectations yet we still cannot reach it .

Wenger has delivered their supporters in the past 4 years as many FA cups as we have won in our existence, yet it wasn't deemed acceptable by their support.
They just spent £50m on a striker in the last window and sold their best player. I think they have every right to feel a little aggrieved.
the pink palermo wrote:We're asking for a little more flair and a better attempt at winning some games ......and yet we seem content with our lot .
I think thats called being a West Ham fan Pinks. We've had flair in years gone by and still been gubbed by the bigger teams.
the pink palermo wrote:Just when will this Board of Directors start to feel real heat for their ineptitude ?
As soon as we see thousands of those beautiful white seats not being filled at the OS. On that point, are you renewing next season?

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Re: Arsenal v West Ham United: Match Thread

Post by Beavis Danzig » Sun Apr 22, 2018 7:19 pm

imagine the bowl if we go down on the last day. would make burnley look a cordial introduction.

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Re: Arsenal v West Ham United: Match Thread

Post by Boom Kid » Sun Apr 22, 2018 7:21 pm

I hadn’t thought of it that way before TPP but you’ve got a point...[/quote]

Absolutely right he's got a point - imo one ****ing hell of a point.

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Re: Arsenal v West Ham United: Match Thread

Post by the pink palermo » Sun Apr 22, 2018 7:24 pm

westham,eggyandchips wrote: On that point, are you renewing next season?
Still have one year left on my BB ticket.

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Re: Arsenal v West Ham United: Match Thread

Post by DaveWHU1964 » Sun Apr 22, 2018 7:25 pm

the pink palermo wrote:Just when will this Board of Directors start to feel real heat for their ineptitude ?
When 20,000 of season ticket holders don’t renew. If people aren’t up for that then they’ll need to keep sucking this all up.

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Re: Arsenal v West Ham United: Match Thread

Post by jacko » Sun Apr 22, 2018 7:29 pm

the pink palermo wrote:


Every substitution was 10 mins too late.

Every one of them.
Exactly...this seems to be a feature of Moyes

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Re: Arsenal v West Ham United: Match Thread

Post by jacko » Sun Apr 22, 2018 7:30 pm

Would be great if we could spend some time in training practicing how to defend the corners that we take!

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Re: Arsenal v West Ham United: Match Thread

Post by MrHammer73 » Sun Apr 22, 2018 7:31 pm

Was it me or did Ogbonna look injured?

Just another example of the incompetence of our board letting Fonte go and playing a injured centre half.

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Re: Arsenal v West Ham United: Match Thread

Post by Rocketron » Sun Apr 22, 2018 7:33 pm

the pink palermo wrote:
Not the same point, but undoubtedly the empty seats did for Wenger, they fired him, be in no doubt.

My point was about how low we set the bar as supporters in terms of expectations yet we still cannot reach it .

Wenger has delivered their supporters in the past 4 years as many FA cups as we have won in our existence, yet it wasn't deemed acceptable by their support.

We're asking for a little more flair and a better attempt at winning some games ......and yet we seem content with our lot .

Just when will this Board of Directors start to feel real heat for their ineptitude ?
How many years were you telling us all that you would never set foot inside Stratford? :wink:

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Re: Arsenal v West Ham United: Match Thread

Post by SammyLeeWasOffside » Sun Apr 22, 2018 7:36 pm

Arsenal fans got the manager out, we were months ahead of them on that.

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Re: Arsenal v West Ham United: Match Thread

Post by the pink palermo » Sun Apr 22, 2018 7:37 pm

Very good Ron

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Re: Arsenal v West Ham United: Match Thread

Post by sussexhammer74 » Sun Apr 22, 2018 7:41 pm

Koyaute.

I just don't understand him as a central (defensive?) midfielder.

He can't control the ball. The ball seems to be bouncing up around him and struggles to get it back under control. If he does pass, 9 times out of 10 it goes to opposition or it's backwards. He doesn't track back. He seems to meander back. Times he was on the floor watching the play going on. Took an age to get up off of the floor.

They (arsenal) were so so poor at the back it was unbelievable. We should (and better teams will) have exploited that more.

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Re: Arsenal v West Ham United: Match Thread

Post by prophet:marginal » Sun Apr 22, 2018 7:45 pm

jacko wrote:Would be great if we could spend some time in training practicing how to defend the corners that we take!
I had a chuckle reading that, but its too accurate, really.

It's the same as it used to be, under Avram; how many times did we concede a goal and then nearly another, because we screwed up kicking off again, once the game re-started?

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Re: Arsenal v West Ham United: Match Thread

Post by preston » Sun Apr 22, 2018 7:48 pm

MrHammer73 wrote:Was it me or did Ogbonna look injured?

Just another example of the incompetence of our board letting Fonte go and playing a injured centre half.
He certainly looked sluggish and not up to his usual performance. There were a couple of instances later intake game where he looked slower than Noble.

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Re: Arsenal v West Ham United: Match Thread

Post by flysohigh » Sun Apr 22, 2018 8:27 pm

We have lost any sense of ambition. It’s all about survival at any cost. So much fear but what is there to fear? We get relegated the tickets will be cheaper and the board will be having sleepless nights. Sounds good to me. As for entertainment it’s far easier to go to the cinema or watch armchair football than a Moyes borefest. They just don’t get it but they will when the ground is empty. There will be plenty of empty seats next week for sure.

We need to up the pressure on the board and remind them “ world class stadium with a world class team “

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Re: Arsenal v West Ham United: Match Thread

Post by Ironing Board » Sun Apr 22, 2018 8:45 pm

It’s an old point, but Moyes is playing with the cards he has. I doubt he is happy with the squad, and if he is signing Allen and Butland it shows where his priorities lie.

The team is in dire need of defensive and midfield reinforcements. A couple of centre halfs, with Rice protected as the first reserve behind an experienced paring so he can build experience without being hung out to dry, seem crucial

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Re: Arsenal v West Ham United: Match Thread

Post by flysohigh » Sun Apr 22, 2018 8:51 pm

Ironing Board wrote:It’s an old point, but Moyes is playing with the cards he has. I doubt he is happy with the squad, and if he is signing Allen and Butland it shows where his priorities lie.

The team is in dire need of defensive and midfield reinforcements. A couple of centre halfs, with Rice protected as the first reserve behind an experienced paring so he can build experience without being hung out to dry, seem crucial
Sorry mate absolute rubbish. Carroll Lanzini & Chicharito on the bench so no need to start with that eleven. Holland and Browne should be on the bench as they are in form and deserve their chance over a bunch of unambitious slow overpaid salary theives. No excuse not to try and attack in the last few games. The managers fear has now infected the players and we can all see the results. Show some confidence is the players and get rid of the shackles. Also get rid of the midfield in the summer.

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