West Ham Utd 1-2 Bournemouth (18/08/18)

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Re: West Ham Utd v Bournemouth: match thread (18/8)

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Longaz wrote:———————————Fabianski
Fredericks——-Balbuena————Ogbonna——Masuaku
——————Obiang———————Sanchez
———————————Wilshere
Yarmolenko——————————————-Anderson
———————————Arnautovic


Don’t like to leave Rice out, but plenty of time for him to show what he can do. One thing Sanchez has is experience and it’s something we probably need in the DCM position. And with Sanchez and Obiang in there I think we can afford to have Masuaku at left back as they would provide better than what we’re used too in terms of cover.
This team would have offered more yest

Noble can’t be carried any longer
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all concern is the usual central midfield areas. Pelle wont drop noble after one game and I would think he will give rice another go there as well.

Antonio to be given another run out with yarmolenko replacing him on 60 mins

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fred Balbuena ogbonna masuaka
noble rice wilshere
Antonio arnie Anderson

subs Adrian zabaleta diop obiang sanchez yarmolenko perez Hernandez
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Awooga_Iron wrote:I'd like to see Anderson central. And I think, while he worked his socks off wide, he got a bit isolated, and he looks like he's got all the skills to play at 10.
Agree.

I fear he'll get the same problem as Arnie had first half of last season. With Lanzini out, we need that creative mind in the middle, where he'll see more of the ball.
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EastleighHammer16 wrote:If everyone is fit, it'll be the same starting 11 i would think. Only change i could see him making is Yarmolenko in for Antonio. We shouldn't start making whole sale changes after a defeat an Anfield.
Are you saying that

A - we are paying 7m a year for a manager to just pick the same 11 every week
B - The manager doesn't believe in changing or tinkering tactics & personnel for specific games?

If that's the case we wouldn't need much of a squad

Nobody is suggesting wholesale changes. For the most part the majority on here have expressed concern over Masuaku and the central midfield area. Nobody is saying have a new back 4
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Fabianski
Fredericks Balbuena Ogbonna Rice
Noble Wilshire
Arnautovic
Snodgrass Hernandez Anderson

Masuaku and Antonio out.
Snodgrass and Hernandez in.
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Rice at left back?
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HammerMan2004 wrote:Rice at left back?
Him or Zab...just cant have Masuaku. Liability
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West Ham to win by two clear goals - 3-1 would be my prediction .
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In my opinion there is no great need for wholesale changes.

I'd make just 2 : Sanchez ( or Obiang) for Rice or Noble
Yarmo (or Snodders) for Antonio

Those in brackets are in case Sanchez or Yarmo aren't 100% fit.
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mumbles87 wrote: Noble can’t be carried any longer
Noble certainly can't be carried by Rice in CM.

Likewise, Noble can't carry others at the same time as playing his own game to the best of his ability. We are asking and expecting far too much of him.

He hasn't had a decent partner in the middle sing Song, and that was arguably one of his best seasons for us.

Coincidence?
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Lets get back to basics in defence, I was surprised Pellegrini started with so many changes, particularly at the back.
We needed the experience and work ethic of Zabaleta on Sunday, Cresswell is an actual LB and I'm not sure what Adrian has done wrong to be dropped yet again.

Midfield is less clear, Wilshere plus any two from Noble, Rice, Obiang and Sanchez, it's all a bit Hobson's choice there!

Our lack of quality options at full back and centre mid are really quite glaring.

The front three pick themselves, if Yarmo isn't fully fit, start with Perez.

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Zabaleta Balbuena Ogbonna Cresswell
Noble Obiang
Wilshere
Yarmo Anderson
Arnie
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People suggesting we drop Fabianski who was our best player on Sunday :lol:

I thought we were trying to move away from chopping and changing keepers every week.
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get obiang back in, for the love of god just dont pair noble and rice again, it was horrific at newcastle away last season it was equally as bad on sunday, experiment over.
Bournemouth will also have runners from midfield namely ryan fraser so we will need people with the ability to track.
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Ladzini wrote:People suggesting we drop Fabianski who was our best player on Sunday :lol:

I thought we were trying to move away from chopping and changing keepers every week.
What did Adrian do wrong to be dropped in the first place.
Why was he immediately usurped by a relegated keeper?

Pellegini obviously knows best, and also you, I presume.
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What amazes me most about our fans, and this isn't directed at anyone in particular (might even be slightly off topic), is how loyal they are to some players who've under performed over the past couple of seasons, yet so quick to throw others under the bus so quickly.

Anyway, as for Bournemouth it's "In Pellegrini We Trust".. but I can't see how he'll make wholesale changes, and hope he doesn't. This is the team I think he'll go with.

Fabianski

Fredericks
Balbuena
Ogbonna
Masuaku

Noble
Obiang
Wilshere

Yarmolenko
Anderson

Arnautovic.
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Only player Id swap is Antonio for Yarmalenko, purely because pretty much every time he got the ball he lost it.

See him as an impact sub now when we need power and directness against tiring defenders.

Rice looked our best midfielder in pre season and deserves another chance. The combination with him Noble and Wilshere moved the ball best in pre season too.

Masuaku I thought defended very well using his pace and also didnt overplay and got his body between ball and man well. Fredericks struggled much more.

We need to give the side time and not tear up the script after the hardest game of the season (which it will be since theyve been demolishing teams all pre season and we're still trying to learn a new way of playing).
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Pretty much the same team but I would drop Antonio for Yarmolenko and move Rice into defence which means dropping Rocky for Obiang.
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To be honest I would probably put Zab in over Fredericks who was all over the place on Sunday.
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smuts wrote:To be honest I would probably put Zab in over Fredericks who was all over the place on Sunday.
So dropping him on the basis of coming up against one of the best forward lines in the PL, in his first game? Come on now... Same goes for people calling for Balbuena, Ogbonna and/or Masuaku to be dropped. Literally nonsensical. Let's try and build a successful back 4, and stick at it. But let's judge against opposition we "should" beat at least, before making a million changes. Continuity.

In my team guess, I drop Rice for the more experienced Obiang and bring in Yarmolenko who impressed me when coming on for Antonio. No knicker wetting or pulling the trigger too early for me.
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smuts wrote:To be honest I would probably put Zab in over Fredericks who was all over the place on Sunday.
Think our full backs were hugely let down by our wingers at Liverpool constantly allowing them to overlap and double up on us.

If their full back is having a crack at our full back and our midfield are nowhere to be seen, you have to ask questions.

This week should be a totally different game with us on the front foot a bit more.
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