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Re: Andy Carroll

Post by Estuary » Fri Aug 09, 2019 1:22 pm

The end of a frustrating time for the club, it’s supporters and the player. Haller May be the answer to our perpetual injury jinx, or like Dean Ashton, he may be another “if only” player.
But let’s get this straight, in all my 50 years of watching West Ham I have never seen a player dominate a whole defence like Carroll did v the likes of Fulham, Swansea and Arsenal, he had it all, but was let down by a fragility that belied his physic.
I wish him all the best at his home town club, but expect a similar outcome, your body doesn’t improve with wear and tear, and the rigours of remedial physio therapy put huge strain on you, add to that he has a full pre-season to cover, sadly for him it’ll end as it always did, out after five games and two goals not to return until April. He will be done with football in summer 2020.

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Re: Andy Carroll

Post by YorksHammer » Fri Aug 09, 2019 1:35 pm

The difference between us and Newcastle is writ large by this transfer, in my opinion.

We spent big on a frontline striker and then went out and got a younger prospect as a second choice.

They spent big on a frontline striker and then went out and got Andy Carroll on the footballing equivalent of a zero hours contract.

Wish him the best. I suspect there will always be the air of 'what if?' around his time here.

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Re: Andy Carroll

Post by Spammy The Vee » Fri Aug 09, 2019 2:19 pm

Entertaining ? Yes ! Value For Money ? No !
I'm glad to see him go.

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Re: Andy Carroll

Post by Jedi Al Khalaas » Fri Aug 09, 2019 2:24 pm

Hpoefully he will be injured by the time we play Newcasltle , would hate to see hi score against us.

but you know it will happen

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Re: Andy Carroll

Post by Cuenca 'ammer » Fri Aug 09, 2019 2:30 pm

he's also just coming off two ankle surgeries on the same ankle iirc....

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Re: Andy Carroll

Post by ballantine » Fri Aug 09, 2019 2:33 pm

That goal against Palace.
That hat trick against Arsenal.
That tackle on De Gea.

All good memories! The rest was mostly six years of frustrations. Really happy he will now be Newcastle's "like a new signing" every three months for the next year.

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Re: Andy Carroll

Post by thespider » Fri Aug 09, 2019 2:52 pm

It must be brilliant to have a job where you can earn an absolute fortune even though you achieve none of the things in your job description, only to move onto another job where you can continue to earn huge sums with the most likely probability being that you won't achieve much.
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Re: Andy Carroll

Post by Crouchend_Hammer » Fri Aug 09, 2019 2:53 pm

Estuary wrote: But let’s get this straight, in all my 50 years of watching West Ham I have never seen a player dominate a whole defence like Carroll did v the likes of Fulham, Swansea and Arsenal, he had it all,
i appreciate that the beauty of football is that it is all about opinions, but this is just madness, IMHO of course!

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Re: Andy Carroll

Post by Estuary » Fri Aug 09, 2019 3:03 pm

Crouchend_Hammer wrote:
i appreciate that the beauty of football is that it is all about opinions, but this is just madness, IMHO of course!
As you say, it’s all about opinions.

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Re: Andy Carroll

Post by OohAahButler » Fri Aug 09, 2019 3:25 pm

I can’t make up my mind about him - and it all depends on whether the rumours about his supposed poor attitude are true or not.

If they aren’t, then I actually feel sorry for the bloke. Imagine having all that talent and being made of glass, spending all your time in recovery and watching your career pass you by.

If they are, then I have zero sympathy and a large well of resentment that someone blessed with an ability that most of us could only dream about spunked it all away. And he can f*** right off.

There is no in between for me - I just don’t know which it is.

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Re: Andy Carroll

Post by fjthegrey » Fri Aug 09, 2019 3:34 pm

Carroll has made more money from football than he should have in my opinion.

Whilst an effective player in certain situations, the £100k or so per week he was drawing for however many years, is a salary level he never would have reached if it weren't for Liverpool employing a footballing dinosaur as their manager back in 2011. And then another one being our manager a year or two later.

He didn't look after his body how he should have.

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Re: Andy Carroll

Post by szola » Fri Aug 09, 2019 4:53 pm

Carroll's twitter account announced his Newcastle contract with a video showing him scoring against us, as a Newcastle player from back when he was on the up.

:lol:

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Re: Andy Carroll

Post by Cuenca 'ammer » Fri Aug 09, 2019 5:26 pm

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Having completed 90 minutes in just four Premier League matches over the past two seasons, the fear is the Geordie will not be fit enough regularly to make a significant impact at his boyhood club.

Andy Townsend: "I think he has to have a change of mentality in the way he thinks and the way he prepares. If he is available for 25 games - set yourself a target - it could be a good bit of business."

he has made 25 starts in the last 3 seasons - is Townsend having a Steffi ?

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I suppose he means able to come on the field for 25 appearances total - 3 starts 9 subs last season, 7 starts 9 subs season before...even so Andy T.

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Re: Andy Carroll

Post by Ludeksgloves » Fri Aug 09, 2019 5:39 pm

I loved Big Andy when he was fit. Complete monster who bullied even the strongest defenders. Sadly, it didn’t work out with injuries ruining a career that should have been more. Part of me is sad to see him go, as I always had the (naive) dream that suddenly he would put his injuries behind him and become consistent. Sadly, it was not to be.

Good luck big man.

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Re: Andy Carroll

Post by Hammer1972 » Fri Aug 09, 2019 6:02 pm

You know how you just have an irrational hatred for some people?

I think I have the opposite for Carroll - I should hate him for all the money he's had from us and the poor return, but I find myself hoping he does well at Newcastle...

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Re: Andy Carroll

Post by mushy » Fri Aug 09, 2019 6:08 pm

Couldnt keep up with me in the boozing stakes the other week, shows he is not match fit.
Needs to train a bit more, work up slowly from 8 pints a night to 14.
He will be fine.

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Re: Andy Carroll

Post by The Old Man of Storr » Fri Aug 09, 2019 6:33 pm

ballantine wrote:That goal against Palace.
That hat trick against Arsenal.
That tackle on De Gea.

All good memories! The rest was mostly six years of frustrations. Really happy he will now be Newcastle's "like a new signing" every three months for the next year.

The one against Swansea weren't half bad either , I know he scored more than one against them , the goal when he beat about 3 players before slotting it into the roof of the net .

This one -

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Re: Andy Carroll

Post by eastsider » Fri Aug 09, 2019 8:47 pm

Ludeksgloves wrote:I loved Big Andy when he was fit. Complete monster who bullied even the strongest defenders. Sadly, it didn’t work out with injuries ruining a career that should have been more. Part of me is sad to see him go, as I always had the (naive) dream that suddenly he would put his injuries behind him and become consistent. Sadly, it was not to be.

Good luck big man.
^^^^^^This sums it up for me! ^^^^^^. :thup:

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Re: Andy Carroll

Post by GaryP » Sat Aug 10, 2019 1:39 am

OohAahButler wrote:I can’t make up my mind about him - and it all depends on whether the rumours about his supposed poor attitude are true or not.

If they aren’t, then I actually feel sorry for the bloke. Imagine having all that talent and being made of glass, spending all your time in recovery and watching your career pass you by.

If they are, then I have zero sympathy and a large well of resentment that someone blessed with an ability that most of us could only dream about spunked it all away. And he can **** right off.

There is no in between for me - I just don’t know which it is.
My thoughts exactly. I enjoyed watching him when he was on it but that obviously was never often enough.

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Re: Andy Carroll

Post by Rays Rock » Sat Aug 10, 2019 8:18 am

szola wrote:Carroll's twitter account announced his Newcastle contract with a video showing him scoring against us, as a Newcastle player from back when he was on the up.

:lol:
Cheers Andy, ungrateful kunt !
We’ll just pay your high wages and health bills while you spend your time out on the jolly.

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