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Re: Olympic Stadium Discussion and Questions

Post by YorksHammer » Tue Feb 11, 2020 12:14 pm

Realistically, the best thing that could happen (and I don't know whether is is something that would really work given the various interested parties) would be that the stadium gets taken apart and the lower tier gets put around the community marathon track that opened a couple of years ago. Keep it for community use but also as a UK athletics hub to replace Crystal Palace.

Then there is a whole new stadium built around the pitch at the OS, tailored to football and other sporting events.

That then maintains the athletic side of things, and reuses the OS site.

I suspect it's not viable for a host of reasons, but there's so much space around the ground that I'm pretty sure you could fit a smaller tier around that ground and still build a 52,000 football stadium around the pitch that exists. You could rotate the pitch to give a bit more space, too.

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Re: Olympic Stadium Discussion and Questions

Post by Up the Junction » Tue Feb 11, 2020 12:20 pm

spod wrote:
Tue Feb 11, 2020 12:11 pm
...incorporating commercial units around the outside in the space left when the stands are moved in towards the pitch.
That's it.

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Post by Beavis Danzig » Tue Feb 11, 2020 12:26 pm

easier and cheaper just to pull it down and relocate the stadium to where the community pitch/where they store the seats in the summer is if you want to go for the stratford route. leave the rest of it to be developed into whatever they want.

the plot at upton park was sold for £35m (then sold on for twice that within six months), developments on there will fetch the best part of a billion quid when all sold.

how a ruthless property developer such as david sullivan missed out on that i will never know. without saying anything i can't back up, i will just say it's extremely surprising. certainly surprising enough to warrant an investigation.

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Re: Olympic Stadium Discussion and Questions

Post by Vic_Watson » Tue Feb 11, 2020 3:12 pm

Maybe posted elsewhere. Safe standing at Old Trafford.

https://www.bbc.com/sport/football/51457337

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Re: Olympic Stadium Discussion and Questions

Post by Da Vinci » Thu Feb 13, 2020 3:18 pm

Just read a piece about Millwall redeveloping The Den. They are going to build around the existing stadium which will include an underground car park, hotel, community centre plus 3,500 new homes and get this a brand new London overground station next to the ground. No stop and go boards required :lol:

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Re: Olympic Stadium Discussion and Questions

Post by rossmundo » Thu Feb 13, 2020 8:01 pm

Da Vinci wrote:
Thu Feb 13, 2020 3:18 pm
Just read a piece about Millwall redeveloping The Den. They are going to build around the existing stadium which will include an underground car park, hotel, community centre plus 3,500 new homes and get this a brand new London overground station next to the ground. No stop and go boards required :lol:
They get about 10,000 in that ****hole if there lucky, what they gone fill it with cardboard cut outs? :lol:

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Re: Olympic Stadium Discussion and Questions

Post by War Pony » Thu Feb 13, 2020 8:06 pm

rossmundo wrote:
Thu Feb 13, 2020 8:01 pm
They get about 10,000 in that ****hole if there lucky, what they gone fill it with cardboard cut outs? :lol:
Better than away fans and tourist!!

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Re: Olympic Stadium Discussion and Questions

Post by rossmundo » Thu Feb 13, 2020 8:49 pm

War Pony wrote:
Thu Feb 13, 2020 8:06 pm
Better than away fans and tourist!!
Thats regardless... I'd still say say we get 45,00 plus what I would call proper west ham fans in the stadium.

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Re: Olympic Stadium Discussion and Questions

Post by Westbourne Bill » Thu Feb 13, 2020 9:25 pm

Millwall's plans ....and they already have a proper football ground.
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/footb ... pment.html

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Re: Olympic Stadium Discussion and Questions

Post by Georgee Paris » Thu Feb 13, 2020 9:30 pm

I was thinking of posting a new thread along the same lines as the Wolves one... anyone else jealous of Millwall? Not sure if that’s overstepping the mark though.

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Post by HammerMan2004 » Thu Feb 13, 2020 9:46 pm

Westbourne Bill wrote:
Thu Feb 13, 2020 9:25 pm
Millwall's plans ....and they already have a proper football ground.
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/footb ... pment.html
Looks fantastic. Can’t begrudge any football club a nice football stadium. The pain of ours outweighs the hatred I have for any other club.

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Re: Olympic Stadium Discussion and Questions

Post by Colours never run » Thu Feb 13, 2020 9:54 pm

Ben wrote:
Tue Feb 04, 2020 12:32 pm
It’s mad they don’t even try to hide the crappy scaffolding you see each time you enter the stadium
Image
.... "World Class Stadium" you say, Karren? :lol:

Lies, lies, lies.

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Re: Olympic Stadium Discussion and Questions

Post by Colours never run » Thu Feb 13, 2020 9:58 pm

Ps - On closer inspection, it doesn't exactly inspire confidence in it's safety either. Just from that one image it looks precarious in places and more of a 'hope for the best' attitude towards remaining in tact, rather than being 100% certain of it's safety. :shock:

Gos forbid it should collapse and potentially put lives at risk.

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Re: Olympic Stadium Discussion and Questions

Post by Denbighammer » Thu Feb 13, 2020 10:05 pm

If our fans ever had something to get excited about and actually jumped around a bit, that would definitely fall down...

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Re: Olympic Stadium Discussion and Questions

Post by Believer » Thu Feb 13, 2020 10:14 pm

Colours never run wrote:
Thu Feb 13, 2020 9:58 pm
Ps - On closer inspection, it doesn't exactly inspire confidence in it's safety either. Just from that one image it looks precarious in places and more of a 'hope for the best' attitude towards remaining in tact, rather than being 100% certain of it's safety. :shock:

Gos forbid it should collapse and potentially put lives at risk.
Not wrong. I wonder how often the HSE inspect those cable ties and those flimsy supports ?

When you see what clubs like Brentford and Millwall are doing let alone Tottenham, it just highlights what they’ve done to us. We’ve got arguably one of the biggest supports in the country and a new stadium or a transformation of the BG would have allowed that support to remain and flourish. However through sheer personal greed they’ve taken our dreams and destroyed them and killed the atmosphere that everyone admired.

It’s noted that Millwall have ensured that they will not lose the atmosphere at their new place. We couldn’t drum up an atmosphere anymore even if we wanted to as the crowds are so dispersed - families mixed with old school and other people who are in no way associated to our club.

It’ll not recover as long as we are in there and more so as long as they’re here.

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Re: Olympic Stadium Discussion and Questions

Post by Beavis Danzig » Thu Feb 13, 2020 10:18 pm

Da Vinci wrote:
Thu Feb 13, 2020 3:18 pm
Just read a piece about Millwall redeveloping The Den. They are going to build around the existing stadium which will include an underground car park, hotel, community centre plus 3,500 new homes and get this a brand new London overground station next to the ground. No stop and go boards required :lol:
all set for a ground share when we move out.

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Re: Olympic Stadium Discussion and Questions

Post by Pop Robson » Thu Feb 13, 2020 10:23 pm

As an ex-electrician cable ties are for tying cables to say metal tray work

Not to make sure the metal framework of a temp stand holding thousands of people doesn't come undone.

I have photo of way back when we moved to the bowl hole that shown some of the scaffolding is on blocks

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Re: Olympic Stadium Discussion and Questions

Post by bonzosbeard » Fri Feb 14, 2020 2:11 am

Pop Robson wrote:
Thu Feb 13, 2020 10:23 pm
As an ex-electrician cable ties are for tying cables to say metal tray work

Not to make sure the metal framework of a temp stand holding thousands of people doesn't come undone.

I have photo of way back when we moved to the bowl hole that shown some of the scaffolding is on blocks
No doubt if anything ever happened they would wriggle out of it and blame the contractors. However this obviously shoddy workmanship (and I'm sure some expert will argue with me) is on here now as public record. Karren Brady hang your head in shame. That is not world class retractable seating.

Not even retractable. Nor class.

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Re: Olympic Stadium Discussion and Questions

Post by Samba » Fri Feb 14, 2020 3:37 am

Denbighammer wrote:
Thu Feb 13, 2020 10:05 pm
If our fans ever had something to get excited about and actually jumped around a bit, that would definitely fall down...
See? Cable ties are perfectly safe there.

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Re: Olympic Stadium Discussion and Questions

Post by Colours never run » Fri Feb 14, 2020 4:26 am

bonzosbeard wrote:
Fri Feb 14, 2020 2:11 am
No doubt if anything ever happened they would wriggle out of it and blame the contractors. However this obviously shoddy workmanship (and I'm sure some expert will argue with me) is on here now as public record. Karren Brady hang your head in shame. That is not world class retractable seating.

Not even retractable. Nor class.
Brady's such a slippery, spin, spin, sugar type of gal she'd just say something along the lines of, "You all misunderstood me. What I meant by what I said was we all live in a world and in it there are different classes and this is a stadium. You see? World. Class. Stadium. I didn't lie!. I'm just sorry that all you billigerent morons didn't understand that." :arry:

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