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Re: Javier Hernandez Signs

Post by stu1 » Sun Sep 01, 2019 10:11 pm

The downfall of Bony is pretty staggering.

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Re: Javier Hernandez Signs

Post by Rocket » Sun Sep 01, 2019 10:16 pm

Does anyone remember when Di Canio and Kanouté both suffered long-term injuries and we were left with 20-year-old Jermain Defoe and Ian Pearce up front? That was fun.

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Re: Javier Hernandez Signs

Post by e17 » Sun Sep 01, 2019 10:32 pm

I remember for what seemed about 10 years we had Carlton and just literally every rubbish footballer who’d ever played as an option. Or players who had been good but now were rubbish.

Easy to forget that before Hernandez, we once called upon Benni Mac, Mido, Maiga...

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Re: Javier Hernandez Signs

Post by goof » Sun Sep 01, 2019 10:39 pm

Once again well and truly shafted by the owners, they have had all summer to get this done, just penny pinching, nothing less. We will never ever amount to anything with this lot at the helm. No progression what so ever since the move. I understand getting shot of a player that doesn't turn up most days & his contract is up soon but you can't deny he does score some goals when needed, the same can be said about Carroll. Haller will get injured we all no that, once again another season full of promise to a season of fighting relegation, thanks.

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Re: Javier Hernandez Signs

Post by ironilunga » Sun Sep 01, 2019 10:55 pm

tommythehammer wrote:A quick search throws up some interesting (albeit depressing) free agents:

- Wilfred Bony
- Modibo Maiga
- Emmanuel Emineke
- Victor Anichebe
- Emmanuel Reviere
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Worth remembering that if we sign another striker they would be third choice - they don’t have to be world beaters! I would try and sign Llorente until Jan/next summer. Fits the system.

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Re: Javier Hernandez Signs

Post by Cuenca 'ammer » Sun Sep 01, 2019 11:02 pm

think someone posted already - he's in Naples.....

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Re: Javier Hernandez Signs

Post by Billydinho » Sun Sep 01, 2019 11:50 pm

In true KUMB fashion, a massive overreaction by posters on here.

We have Haller, we have Ajeti, we have Yarmolenko and we have the youth if required.

If we whittle through those we’ll be in the sh*t, just like every club in the league.

Aguero/Jesus
Firmino/Origi
Kane/???
Aubamyang/Lacazette
Abraham/Giroud
Rashford/???
Vardy/Ianecho
Jimenez/Cutrone
Richarlison/Kean

How many clubs in the league actually have three senior out and out strikers?

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Re: Javier Hernandez Signs

Post by goa127 » Mon Sep 02, 2019 12:07 am

It's a bit of a gamble to have just two strikers in the squad, but if you only play one striker (as we do) It's not so much. Critics who say this should have been done earlier aren't being realistic. If the bids come in late what are you supposed to do? It's been obvious he's wanted away for some time and realistically recruiting a 3rd choice striker of any quality is not easy. I don't agree that the squad has been weakened. Last Tuesday we played a team with 10 changes from the previous game. That team was stronger than some of our first 11 in the not too distant past. Quantity may be down but quality is definitely up. Let's hope the injury curse leaves us alone for a while!

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Re: Javier Hernandez Signs

Post by Kialos » Mon Sep 02, 2019 12:17 am

steveyrockstar wrote:The thing with Hernandez is that he was a fantastic option of the bench if we're chasing games and need a goal, so great for cup games. With Antonio out, I don't know what secret weapons we'll have on our bench anymore. Even Diangana is on loan at West Brom.

It does leave us light up front, and God forbid Haller gets injured. A lot could rest on Ajeti's shoulders.
Exactly

Look at his PL record last season.

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Post by kitthehammer » Mon Sep 02, 2019 12:46 am

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Its all very well saying blame the owners but if a player takes advantage of a later european window and players simply don’t want to come to us because ww cant offer european football then what can they do?
if hugill carries on then see if we can recall him but then he might not want to and it doesnt help with antonio out.

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Re: Javier Hernandez Signs

Post by pezza20 » Mon Sep 02, 2019 4:06 am

Damed if they did and damned if they didn't.

Walks away for free end of the season, 2nd/3rd in line for a place

Largest earner at the club but a greta finisher who can score goals with the right service

Doesn't really fit our system of 1 up top, but would in a 2

Downside is 8m quid less 6.5m in wages wont be seen again - straight in those turnips pockets ...

I think its a good move for the club as it frees up a squad place for January if need be, and Silva may be back by December anyway.

Please don't anyone mention Hugill - will be sold end of the season if he has a good one this - not seen as premiership standard and certainly isn't.

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Re: Javier Hernandez Signs

Post by jastons » Mon Sep 02, 2019 6:20 am

Hernandez - 16 goals in 55 games

Arnautovic - 21 goals in 59 games

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Re: Javier Hernandez Signs

Post by Rays Rock » Mon Sep 02, 2019 6:51 am

I’m one of those who was in support of Hernandez getting more time ahead of others, but i have to admit the time he spent on the pitch he looked out of place and the team disjointed as a result. To be a striker in most sides in the premier league at this moment in time requires to be more than just a goal poacher.
It is for sure a massive attribute to possess, but if it comes at the frustration of your own teams tactics, you won’t be featuring very highly in the 1st 11.
Nobody in the league was in for Hernandez, which really demonstrates how useful he had become !

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Re: Javier Hernandez Signs

Post by Swiss Pauli » Mon Sep 02, 2019 7:29 am

I'd be ok with the idea of Hernandez leaving without a replacement, but if Husillos has lined up Llorente then it will have been great business.

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Re: Javier Hernandez Signs

Post by hammerman11 » Mon Sep 02, 2019 7:52 am

Glad he has gone but would have been nce if sevilla had bid earlier in our window but I guess they have used it as an advantage. so we have a bit more money and saved on stupid wages.
never quite worked here for him and he looked not bothered half the time. too many minor injuries to be genuine.

we want players who want to play for us. he is 31 now and not going to get any better. overall 10m for him is good business, no one in the premier league wanted him !


so we are left with haller and ajeti. silva is recovering from injury and wont be back fully until December.
Antonio out until January I reckon.

not sure I want a 34 year old llorente who is slow and only here for the money.

we have a couple of young strikers why not give them a chance ? kemp and dju spring to mind. you never know we might unearth a real gem.

we will need to buy another striker in january but that window is not a good one to buy in.

lets hope the injury curse doesnt retrun.

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Re: Javier Hernandez Signs

Post by sendô » Mon Sep 02, 2019 8:34 am

It does us a favour to get him off of the wage bill.

Sadly, Hernandez never seemed to properly fit into any system we played.

I'll mostly remember him for his lack of performance away to lower league opposition in the cups, sadly.

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Re: Javier Hernandez Signs

Post by Corney Beal » Mon Sep 02, 2019 8:53 am

Rocket wrote:Does anyone remember when Di Canio and Kanouté both suffered long-term injuries and we were left with 20-year-old Jermain Defoe and Ian Pearce up front? That was fun.

Not as much fun as seeing Colin Foster or Paul Hilton thrusted up front with no other options.

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Re: Javier Hernandez Signs

Post by wigwig » Mon Sep 02, 2019 9:02 am

His all round play was terrible. When he played we played badly. I certainly won't miss him. If you just look at his goal stats it looks like he had a half decent time here, but his link up play was shocking, he's just a crap Gary Linekar.

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Re: Javier Hernandez Signs

Post by sanchoz » Mon Sep 02, 2019 9:04 am

sendô wrote:It does us a favour to get him off of the wage bill.

Sadly, Hernandez never seemed to properly fit into any system we played.

I'll mostly remember him for his lack of performance away to lower league opposition in the cups, sadly.
Also for me in moving him on, he becomes someone else's problem.

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Re: Javier Hernandez Signs

Post by stu1 » Mon Sep 02, 2019 9:09 am

Hernandez is ideal for certain situations, like chasing a goal in a home game or away against low prem opposition. However he’s completely unsuited to leading the line on his own in most games, particularly away from home.

If you focus on his games when he’s lead the line away from home then you’ll think he’s crap, but you are completely overlooking the time when he’s best utilised. I’d imagine if we kept him, he’d rarely start but be used off the bench regularly.

The sale of Hernandez will cost us between 3-6 point this season imo, the question is does getting £8m and saving £7m in wages out way a slightly lower points total.

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