Manuel Pellegrini West Ham United’s 17th manager

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Re: Manuel Pellegrini West Ham United’s 17th manager

Post by S-H » Sat Nov 09, 2019 6:20 pm

Its ****ing amazing isn't it? We are weaker than last season. Who'd have thought that top level football is a squad game.

Good job we have an experienced owner in charge, who knows you cant flog squad players without replacing them.

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Re: Manuel Pellegrini West Ham United’s 17th manager

Post by e17 » Sat Nov 09, 2019 6:22 pm

S-H wrote:
Sat Nov 09, 2019 6:20 pm
Its ****ing amazing isn't it? We are weaker than last season. Who'd have thought that top level football is a squad game.

Good job we have an experienced owner in charge, who knows you cant flog squad players without replacing them.
I for one am FLABBERGASTED that selling Hernandez, Obiang, Arnautovic, Perez and Adrian hasn’t made us stronger

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Re: Manuel Pellegrini West Ham United’s 17th manager

Post by Marky » Sat Nov 09, 2019 6:22 pm

He has to go although I don’t think he will. I am not a fan

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Re: Manuel Pellegrini West Ham United’s 17th manager

Post by Ozza » Sat Nov 09, 2019 6:23 pm

S-H wrote:
Sat Nov 09, 2019 6:20 pm
Its ****ing amazing isn't it? We are weaker than last season. Who'd have thought that top level football is a squad game.

Good job we have an experienced owner in charge, who knows you cant flog squad players without replacing them.
Clearly there was a plan to clear wages and therefore balance the books and clear the debt (ready for the sale at some point) there is no way the manager gives a **** about that, all over to Sully.

Something in my view happened at that point, maybe money that was promised got pulled, but he surely didn’t get what he wanted?

Like the managers before him here, he’s no mug

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Re: Manuel Pellegrini West Ham United’s 17th manager

Post by Ironing Board » Sat Nov 09, 2019 6:25 pm

simon1982 wrote:
Sat Nov 09, 2019 6:16 pm
It’s not that good a squad. We are much weaker than last season.
And who’s fault is that!?

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Re: Manuel Pellegrini West Ham United’s 17th manager

Post by Irrons » Sat Nov 09, 2019 6:25 pm

Seems to have lost the dressing room and can't see him turning it around. Has to go

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Re: Manuel Pellegrini West Ham United’s 17th manager

Post by Ozza » Sat Nov 09, 2019 6:25 pm

Sullys

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Re: Manuel Pellegrini West Ham United’s 17th manager

Post by S-H » Sat Nov 09, 2019 6:27 pm

He's been tucked up. Just like Jose was at Man Utd. You don't turn into a bad manager over night. Pellegrini couldn't care less, and its exactly what that **** Sullivan deserves, trouble is, as always, it's the fans that continue to suffer.

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Re: Manuel Pellegrini West Ham United’s 17th manager

Post by Irrons » Sat Nov 09, 2019 6:27 pm

Get Bielsa in, he would be merciless to this squad of spineless cowards

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Re: Manuel Pellegrini West Ham United’s 17th manager

Post by miles » Sat Nov 09, 2019 6:27 pm

Manuel Pellegrini: "I am the famed Engineer. I will not fail."

West Ham: "Hold my beer."

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Re: Manuel Pellegrini West Ham United’s 17th manager

Post by Ozza » Sat Nov 09, 2019 6:28 pm

S-H wrote:
Sat Nov 09, 2019 6:27 pm
He's been tucked up. Just like Jose was at Man Utd. You don't turn into a bad manager over night. Pellegrini couldn't care less, and its exactly what that **** Sullivan deserves, trouble is, as always, it's the fans that continue to suffer.
Yup

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Re: Manuel Pellegrini West Ham United’s 17th manager

Post by Burnley Hammer » Sat Nov 09, 2019 6:28 pm

Sullivan is to blame for a lot of things, and the sooner he's gone the better... there's no doubt about that.

That doesn't give the manager a free pass though. He's still responsible for team selection, for tactics, for team motivation, and for generally getting the best out of the players at his disposal. With regards to all that, questions quite rightly do need to be asked.

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Post by peter49uk » Sat Nov 09, 2019 6:30 pm

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Sat Nov 09, 2019 6:04 pm
Bloke looks retired already. I bet he would love to get his pay off and bugger off back to China for a few years to feather his pension pot.
At his age he will finish up one of the if not the richest in the cemetery. Why does he put him self through it other than for the €€€€€€

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Re: Manuel Pellegrini West Ham United’s 17th manager

Post by il_martello_di_genovesi » Sat Nov 09, 2019 6:30 pm

Burnley Hammer wrote:
Sat Nov 09, 2019 6:28 pm
Sullivan is to blame for a lot of things, and the sooner he's gone the better... there's no doubt about that.

That doesn't give the manager a free pass though. He's still responsible for team selection, for tactics, for team motivation, and for generally getting the best out of the players at his disposal. With regards to all that, questions quite rightly do need to be asked.
Absolutely...

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Re: Manuel Pellegrini West Ham United’s 17th manager

Post by HammerPDC » Sat Nov 09, 2019 6:30 pm

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Sat Nov 09, 2019 5:33 pm
Rather than the constant short termism we should be looking to have a manager who can put a structure in place and build a side.
It’s a great shout, I do really like Pellegrini I genuinely do think for everything he has achieved in the game he is a world class manager and whilst I don’t think we should consider moving on from him yet when we eventually do I think a younger manager with a philosophy is where we should be looking!

The natural choice in this country is Howe, what he has done with the resources available at Bournemouth has been unbelievable and to play an attacking brand of football at the same time is very hard to do in the modern premier league!

For now though I think Pellegrini will turn us around and pull us back to mid table he did it at the beginning of last season and for me he’ll do it again

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Re: Manuel Pellegrini West Ham United’s 17th manager

Post by Ozza » Sat Nov 09, 2019 6:31 pm

What I can’t get over though Burnley is that this exact problem, the motivation, the work rate, the gaps, the passion, the tactical ability, has been levelled against every manager that have worked under this lot.

It doesn’t seem to matter who is in charge it always gets to this, why is that?

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Re: Manuel Pellegrini West Ham United’s 17th manager

Post by smuts » Sat Nov 09, 2019 6:32 pm

We're never going to go anywhere apart from down with GSB running the show. Managers just seem to start off okay then just end up slumped in the dug out as everything falls to pieces around them.

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Re: Manuel Pellegrini West Ham United’s 17th manager

Post by Ozza » Sat Nov 09, 2019 6:33 pm

Tomos there’s no way this board thinks or works long term.

They think short term always in everything they do, the only way of creating a long term blueprint that allows the like of Howe to flourish is to have new owners

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Re: Manuel Pellegrini West Ham United’s 17th manager

Post by Ozza » Sat Nov 09, 2019 6:34 pm

smuts wrote:
Sat Nov 09, 2019 6:32 pm
We're never going to go anywhere apart from down with GSB running the show. Managers just seem to start off okay then just end up slumped in the dug out as everything falls to pieces around them.
Good to see that someone else gets it

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Re: Manuel Pellegrini West Ham United’s 17th manager

Post by HammerPDC » Sat Nov 09, 2019 6:35 pm

Ozza wrote:
Sat Nov 09, 2019 5:35 pm
agree bud, the constant groundhog day feeling with this club is horrific.

The only thing changing the manager does in my view is free up some transfer funds and give some fresh thought processes, that will disappear after a season to the dross and lack of investment we are used to
Your right there fella, it’s another summer of investment followed by more summers of underinvestment. After the Burnley home game a couple of seasons back they stared all that abuse in the face and did the bare minimum they could to relatively speaking get the fans back on side and that was one summer of investment and no more.

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