Manuel Pellegrini: West Ham United’s 17th manager
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For Asians is not a reward
I groaned as all the twelve signs I had ignored collided like pieces of Tetris and sank deep into my gut.
It was a Saturday afternoon and I was sitting in bed appraising Bumble. I had been on this expected classier version of Tinder for about two weeks. I wasn't hopeful to meet anyone fair. As a younger doctor, It is rare that I stay in the same position for more than a couple of years and I was due to move in the next few months Bumble was just my way of social profiling. men got a "absolutely" Swipe from me if he wasn't butt ugly and overtly obnoxious on his profile.
Justin was thirty one and a corporate veteran. I gathered that much from his job evidence as "manager" And the grey suit and collared shirt which he wore in his profile picture. He was white with curly black hair and grey eyes behind wire framed glasses. If he walked across town, I probably would not have looked back at him but his profile read, "I travel between Asia and projects for work. I was developed in Canada and can speak French, Call me an intelligent snob, But in an app where most guys couldn't be bothered to type full words, A profile that contained a complete sentence was a uplifting "how's it going, In an ocean of "Sup, Aw! I really such as this one! He can write in full paragraphs! I thought to myself. And apart from, Surely he would be entertaining if he's travelled so much.
I swiped right and messaged, hi there, through the in app messenger.
hi all.
i've smmethodled. First contact confirmed my opinions: He was considered eloquent, Or as eloquent as a different can get on a dating app. He seemed like a gentleman. I was shocked.
Call me an intelligent snob, But in an app where most guys could hardly be bothered to type full words, A profile that contained a complete sentence was a more sensible.
Over the next few hours, in the middle of my two loads of laundry and meal prepping, We messaged in regards to weekend, Our careers and future plans. He told me he had a Masters of Economics from a university in Canada. I told him about my are a junior doctor: I'm training to be a professional, I said to him. There's so much we don't know about the brain.
His reply to was short, you're such a sweet girl.
understandable. I didn't think having to engage with severely drug affected patients at 4am at all times allowed anyone to be sweet. A worm of redness slinked into my chest.
I went to Vietnam two years back. I loved the society. you're gai dep.
I suddenly felt cold and still. steadly and measuredly, I wrote, big event you should like a girl for their individual merit?
I put i phone down, tense. My first opinion of Justin had been wrong. He was now scoring very highly on how to piss me off with the least number of characters in the shortest period. I had chosen to tell him about my career, To which I had faithful eight years of my life, Simply so that it is summarised as "nice, I doubted that if i had been a white woman or a white man, He would have used the same story.
Being sweet and docile is an image that dominates about Asian women in Western culture. A Google start searching of "Asian the ladies" will bring up multiple opinion articles from (a lot more white) Men telling other men to date Asian women over women from other races because we are more soft spoken and old-school (Asian Woman the earth, globally Seducer, cherish Compass). These men sprout pseudoscientific answers for this image, Claiming that we have higher excess estrogen levels, Meaning we also look more youthful and smaller and are biologically more desirable as a result.
He was now scoring very highly on how to piss me off with the least number of characters in the shortest time period.
The flipside of the docile Asian stereotype is evident in the flashing dating ads that adorn the sides of this content: East Asian women smiling demurely at your camera, A unclear message that Asian women are hypersexual objects: spectacular, sexual, Commodified. This fetish is an exceptionally sensitive subject for Vietnamese women which goes back to the Vietnam War: Our mothers and grandmothers were visible to the West as prostitutes or mistresses to Allied soldiers, remarkably fictionalised in the musical, skip out Saigon. The stereotype of a publicly docile woman who is a vixen in the bedroom enhances the thought that all Asian women are there for white male consumption.
i remember being 12 and shopping on Oxford Street with my mum. I was shuffling through dresses for a cheap price clothing store. My thighs, Bare under my cotton sundress were cold training session the store fan rotated towards me. I smelt the sickly sweet smell of beer and researched. Two caucasian men were looking straight at me. They both had crew cuts and sleeve tattoos that worked out up over their arms. The intense one had bloodshot blue eyes. "national insurance hao ma, He seethed at anyone. I stared at him but said very little. I knew I was safe inside the shop with its video cameras.
"you would look pretty in that dress, Said the tall one, aiming at a yellow dress on the rack.
"very likely look pretty in a bikini, Added the quick one. Then they casually made their way away from store.
"What were they telling you, instructed my mum in Vietnamese, Her voice snappier than usual.
"free, I responded. "these folks were just being gross,
The stereotype of a publicly docile woman who is a vixen in the bedroom enhances the notion that all Asian women are there for white male consumption.
to my surprise, Justin responded to my last Bumble message about an hour later: I just wish to have Asians. They have qualities I like they're smaller, thinner. as just stated he made me feel sick. "undersized" and as well as "skinny" For Asian sexy chinese women fetishists have porno connotations: The delusion of a small Asian vagina, Which is a slight more attention on the "Sideways genitals" Myth throughout the nineteenth century.
But can't a female of any race be small and slim? I messaged back.
It's just a decision. i don't know why this is a problem.
Perhaps it was because Justin was well trained and seemed eloquent, Qualities I erroneously linked with being fair minded frankly, Not racist or sexist, That I kept try to argue my case, probably was past midnight. I was calculated to make this white man see.
It is offensive because I am an individual and you judgemental for my race, 't me. I'm not just this Asian stereotype that you can pull off the on-line world. also, You used my language without knowing the connotations behind the words.
I have said 'gai dep' to lots of ladies and no one has ever said anything bad about it.
Maybe no one had ever said anything to Justin about it, But here's what I advise you, My readers, about the difference: Gai dep can mean "magnificent girl, Gai continually means "hottie" or "woman's" But in Vietnamese the meaning is derived from context. Gai on its own has connotations of the sex industry. on the inside Vietnam, Men met gai in bars where they sat on the laps and sweet talked them, unknowingly to their wives at home. Gai dep is also an affectionate term that my grandfather called his daughters because they were always place to him, rapid for con gai or "lady child, All this even more, Which was too exhausting to explain to Justin via dating app. i can not even, I written.
I groaned as all the twelve signs I had ignored collided like pieces of Tetris and sank deep into my gut.
It was a Saturday afternoon and I was sitting in bed appraising Bumble. I had been on this expected classier version of Tinder for about two weeks. I wasn't hopeful to meet anyone fair. As a younger doctor, It is rare that I stay in the same position for more than a couple of years and I was due to move in the next few months Bumble was just my way of social profiling. men got a "absolutely" Swipe from me if he wasn't butt ugly and overtly obnoxious on his profile.
Justin was thirty one and a corporate veteran. I gathered that much from his job evidence as "manager" And the grey suit and collared shirt which he wore in his profile picture. He was white with curly black hair and grey eyes behind wire framed glasses. If he walked across town, I probably would not have looked back at him but his profile read, "I travel between Asia and projects for work. I was developed in Canada and can speak French, Call me an intelligent snob, But in an app where most guys couldn't be bothered to type full words, A profile that contained a complete sentence was a uplifting "how's it going, In an ocean of "Sup, Aw! I really such as this one! He can write in full paragraphs! I thought to myself. And apart from, Surely he would be entertaining if he's travelled so much.
I swiped right and messaged, hi there, through the in app messenger.
hi all.
i've smmethodled. First contact confirmed my opinions: He was considered eloquent, Or as eloquent as a different can get on a dating app. He seemed like a gentleman. I was shocked.
Call me an intelligent snob, But in an app where most guys could hardly be bothered to type full words, A profile that contained a complete sentence was a more sensible.
Over the next few hours, in the middle of my two loads of laundry and meal prepping, We messaged in regards to weekend, Our careers and future plans. He told me he had a Masters of Economics from a university in Canada. I told him about my are a junior doctor: I'm training to be a professional, I said to him. There's so much we don't know about the brain.
His reply to was short, you're such a sweet girl.
understandable. I didn't think having to engage with severely drug affected patients at 4am at all times allowed anyone to be sweet. A worm of redness slinked into my chest.
I went to Vietnam two years back. I loved the society. you're gai dep.
I suddenly felt cold and still. steadly and measuredly, I wrote, big event you should like a girl for their individual merit?
I put i phone down, tense. My first opinion of Justin had been wrong. He was now scoring very highly on how to piss me off with the least number of characters in the shortest period. I had chosen to tell him about my career, To which I had faithful eight years of my life, Simply so that it is summarised as "nice, I doubted that if i had been a white woman or a white man, He would have used the same story.
Being sweet and docile is an image that dominates about Asian women in Western culture. A Google start searching of "Asian the ladies" will bring up multiple opinion articles from (a lot more white) Men telling other men to date Asian women over women from other races because we are more soft spoken and old-school (Asian Woman the earth, globally Seducer, cherish Compass). These men sprout pseudoscientific answers for this image, Claiming that we have higher excess estrogen levels, Meaning we also look more youthful and smaller and are biologically more desirable as a result.
He was now scoring very highly on how to piss me off with the least number of characters in the shortest time period.
The flipside of the docile Asian stereotype is evident in the flashing dating ads that adorn the sides of this content: East Asian women smiling demurely at your camera, A unclear message that Asian women are hypersexual objects: spectacular, sexual, Commodified. This fetish is an exceptionally sensitive subject for Vietnamese women which goes back to the Vietnam War: Our mothers and grandmothers were visible to the West as prostitutes or mistresses to Allied soldiers, remarkably fictionalised in the musical, skip out Saigon. The stereotype of a publicly docile woman who is a vixen in the bedroom enhances the thought that all Asian women are there for white male consumption.
i remember being 12 and shopping on Oxford Street with my mum. I was shuffling through dresses for a cheap price clothing store. My thighs, Bare under my cotton sundress were cold training session the store fan rotated towards me. I smelt the sickly sweet smell of beer and researched. Two caucasian men were looking straight at me. They both had crew cuts and sleeve tattoos that worked out up over their arms. The intense one had bloodshot blue eyes. "national insurance hao ma, He seethed at anyone. I stared at him but said very little. I knew I was safe inside the shop with its video cameras.
"you would look pretty in that dress, Said the tall one, aiming at a yellow dress on the rack.
"very likely look pretty in a bikini, Added the quick one. Then they casually made their way away from store.
"What were they telling you, instructed my mum in Vietnamese, Her voice snappier than usual.
"free, I responded. "these folks were just being gross,
The stereotype of a publicly docile woman who is a vixen in the bedroom enhances the notion that all Asian women are there for white male consumption.
to my surprise, Justin responded to my last Bumble message about an hour later: I just wish to have Asians. They have qualities I like they're smaller, thinner. as just stated he made me feel sick. "undersized" and as well as "skinny" For Asian sexy chinese women fetishists have porno connotations: The delusion of a small Asian vagina, Which is a slight more attention on the "Sideways genitals" Myth throughout the nineteenth century.
But can't a female of any race be small and slim? I messaged back.
It's just a decision. i don't know why this is a problem.
Perhaps it was because Justin was well trained and seemed eloquent, Qualities I erroneously linked with being fair minded frankly, Not racist or sexist, That I kept try to argue my case, probably was past midnight. I was calculated to make this white man see.
It is offensive because I am an individual and you judgemental for my race, 't me. I'm not just this Asian stereotype that you can pull off the on-line world. also, You used my language without knowing the connotations behind the words.
I have said 'gai dep' to lots of ladies and no one has ever said anything bad about it.
Maybe no one had ever said anything to Justin about it, But here's what I advise you, My readers, about the difference: Gai dep can mean "magnificent girl, Gai continually means "hottie" or "woman's" But in Vietnamese the meaning is derived from context. Gai on its own has connotations of the sex industry. on the inside Vietnam, Men met gai in bars where they sat on the laps and sweet talked them, unknowingly to their wives at home. Gai dep is also an affectionate term that my grandfather called his daughters because they were always place to him, rapid for con gai or "lady child, All this even more, Which was too exhausting to explain to Justin via dating app. i can not even, I written.
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Re: Manuel Pellegrini West Ham United’s 17th manager
Thought I’d dig this thread out just to say what a manager I think we have, seems to be able to deal with the dwarf, love the way he does his transfer business, focused on bringing the youth through and giving them a chance, and has us playing great football.
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Re: Manuel Pellegrini West Ham United’s 17th manager
Hear hear! Very excited for this season. We’re gonna have some fun i reckons. Love having a widely respected gent as a boss.
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100%Ozza wrote:Thought I’d dig this thread out just to say what a manager I think we have, seems to be able to deal with the dwarf, love the way he does his transfer business, focused on bringing the youth through and giving them a chance, and has us playing great football.
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I hope we manage to keep hold of Pell boy and Super Mario. My fear is that the poison dwarf will frustrate his efforts.
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Re: Manuel Pellegrini West Ham United’s 17th manager
M & H are setting in place a foundation & forward structure that I hope will continue long into the future, this can only encourage managers/coaches of a similar standing to want to come here.
Allowing Benitez to leave and replacing him with Bruce is a backward step for the Toon imho.
The type of owner decision which I hope will never darken our doors again.
Allowing Benitez to leave and replacing him with Bruce is a backward step for the Toon imho.
The type of owner decision which I hope will never darken our doors again.
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The longer he’s here the better we will get.
Attacking football, lack of hasbeens, youth players given proper runs and a nonchalant style that seems to deflect all the talk.
Best signing for a decade.
Attacking football, lack of hasbeens, youth players given proper runs and a nonchalant style that seems to deflect all the talk.
Best signing for a decade.
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Re: Manuel Pellegrini West Ham United’s 17th manager
Newcastle without Rafa will be a good barometer.
Pelly is a top class manager who has brought top class methods with him. Like people say, it’s fantastic to have a coach who sees the benefits of long term signings, and ditching the dubious benefits of the loan deal. I feel Oelly would have no problem encouraging players to come on loan, but as we’ve learned with Jenkinson, Song, Zaza, Moses, Nocherino, Armero, Tore, Hart, Mario etc you can’t build a side on players who will leave.
Pelly is a top class manager who has brought top class methods with him. Like people say, it’s fantastic to have a coach who sees the benefits of long term signings, and ditching the dubious benefits of the loan deal. I feel Oelly would have no problem encouraging players to come on loan, but as we’ve learned with Jenkinson, Song, Zaza, Moses, Nocherino, Armero, Tore, Hart, Mario etc you can’t build a side on players who will leave.
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Not that it's a high water mark, but I think identifying and then convincing Pellegrini and Co to join us will be their best ever footballing decision and bit of business they'll ever make by a country mile.Doc H Ball wrote:The longer he’s here the better we will get.
Attacking football, lack of hasbeens, youth players given proper runs and a nonchalant style that seems to deflect all the talk.
Best signing for a decade.
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I do generally agree with that point, but it can work out when the right player is identified - Lanzini is a rear example of that and he's still here doing his beautiful football thing for us. Its when were over reliant on it and excessive is when you have a big issue with it. I'd probably argue Song worked out very well at the time as well as Lanzini to be fair.Het-Field wrote:Newcastle without Rafa will be a good barometer.
Pelly is a top class manager who has brought top class methods with him. Like people say, it’s fantastic to have a coach who sees the benefits of long term signings, and ditching the dubious benefits of the loan deal. I feel Oelly would have no problem encouraging players to come on loan, but as we’ve learned with Jenkinson, Song, Zaza, Moses, Nocherino, Armero, Tore, Hart, Mario etc you can’t build a side on players who will leave.
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Re: Manuel Pellegrini West Ham United’s 17th manager
I am becoming rather concerned with some of Pellegrini's strange decisions.
His substitutions often leave something to be desired and how on earth can he continue
to play Creswell let alone making him captain.
Would be interested to hear others thoughts on the subject
His substitutions often leave something to be desired and how on earth can he continue
to play Creswell let alone making him captain.
Would be interested to hear others thoughts on the subject
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It's the work ethic and discipline, or rather lack of it, that concerns me. I'm pretty sure that he has managed to install it everywhere else he's been, so what's different here?codger wrote:I am becoming rather concerned with some of Pellegrini's strange decisions.
His substitutions often leave something to be desired and how on earth can he continue
to play Creswell let alone making him captain.
Would be interested to hear others thoughts on the subject
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Completely agree regarding the Creswell bit.codger wrote:I am becoming rather concerned with some of Pellegrini's strange decisions.
His substitutions often leave something to be desired and how on earth can he continue
to play Creswell let alone making him captain.
Would be interested to hear others thoughts on the subject
A lot goes on in training and during tactic discussions that we don't see,so maybe he was the best choice for this game but just had a bad day in the office.
I think for the bulk of our games, Masuaku will be the preferred option. For me, Creswell is the better crosser,but we don't really have/need the overlapping full backs with a formation of one up top with three attackive mids.
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I think he got it spot on today. There was a gulf in class, but his game plan was very effective. If we had gotten the rub of the green early on we would probably have sneaked a 1-0. The good thing is he will be able to iron out the wrinkles ahead of our next match, which we should win handsomely.
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No we would not ,we would have lost we are a lacklustre side and seem to need a kick up the backside , i do not understand why we cannot at least give these sort of teams a game .Ironing Board wrote:I think he got it spot on today. There was a gulf in class, but his game plan was very effective. If we had gotten the rub of the green early on we would probably have sneaked a 1-0. The good thing is he will be able to iron out the wrinkles ahead of our next match, which we should win handsomely.
Other sides get beaten by them but not as easily and as softly as we let them .
We have hardly any aggression in our side apart from Snodgrass and Rice .
We have a soft underbelly that gets exposed easily.
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Worst was for me to take out Antonio...codger wrote:I am becoming rather concerned with some of Pellegrini's strange decisions.
His substitutions often leave something to be desired and how on earth can he continue
to play Creswell let alone making him captain.
Would be interested to hear others thoughts on the subject
As he is actually, on of the few players that make PRESSING in the 3/4 field for us...
It was good also that Fornals came..
But Antonio has to stay in such a games we need to put pressure on the oponent, the way we take it from us away...
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You do have a good point, but I think sneaking that early goal would have allowed the manager to compress the play and take advantage of City’s vulnerability on the break. Manuel’s track record in Spain suggests he knows exactly how to handle this kind of game, as he understands the continental possession play. Having said that we are at a big disadvantage due to the difference in class, which makes tactical execution more difficult. I do think the scoreline doesn’t reflect the balance of play.61dicksey wrote:
No we would not ,we would have lost we are a lacklustre side and seem to need a kick up the backside , i do not understand why we cannot at least give these sort of teams a game .
Other sides get beaten by them but not as easily and as softly as we let them .
We have hardly any aggression in our side apart from Snodgrass and Rice .
We have a soft underbelly that gets exposed easily.
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The other side of the coin is it shows he is sticking to his guns. Even if it may have backfired today, it certainly sends out a message to the squad and to the other teams in the league that he means business. I think this will be the season where his convictions bear fruit, as he has strengthened in the areas where he feels that performance benefits will be maximized.Universidad-de-Chile wrote: Worst was for me to take out Antonio...
As he is actually, on of the few players that make PRESSING in the 3/4 field for us...
It was good also that Fornals came..
But Antonio has to stay in such a games we need to put pressure on the oponent, the way we take it from us away...