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Re: Welcome, Sebastien Haller

Post by Denali » Sun Sep 01, 2019 11:12 am

French is a language of exceptions.

His name is pronounced Ha- lair... the « h » is heavily aspirated as to almost not exist.

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Re: Welcome, Sebastien Haller

Post by prophet:marginal » Sun Sep 01, 2019 12:08 pm

irving boleyn wrote:How's your French.? Any Scholars here?

I was taught "er" at the beginning or end of the word was pronounced as "air" and at the end of a word as "ay

So is it Hallair or Hallay ?

Commentators are saying Haller as if it was an English or German word.
Ordinarily, any verb that ends 'aller', as in that very word, is pronounced allay. It is however worth noting that there are very few other words that would simply be the 'a' before the 'ller'.

To get the 'aire' sound, it is normally spelt 'iere' with an accent grave on the first 'e'; as in Jerome Aliadiere, once of this parish. Yes, he had a circumflex over the 'o' in his name, too, for all those French grammar fans amongst us!

However, and I apologise for forgetting who, someone had a word about how I suggested it was pronounced, having heard that our new striker is definitely pronounced as if his name was spelt as per Jerome above. The 'roll call' thread we discussed in seems to 'ave disparu, as they say over there.

I think that, as you get as close as you can to the German/French border, like in Alsace, Strasbourg, etc, the pronunciation of some words, especially names, loses their classic French rules and get a Germanic tinge to them (Arsene is a different example, with the W beginning his name; quite a rarity across France all told).

So, looks like the convention is 'All-aire'. Nobody French would pronounce the aitch; I am pretty certain of that.

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Re: Welcome, Sebastien Haller

Post by Ozza » Sun Sep 01, 2019 12:10 pm

This bloke is the real deal, he does it all, great control, passes well, puts it about, fantastic movement gets in the right place.

Great signing and once he and Lanzini get on the same wavelength bbbbooooommmm
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Re: Welcome, Sebastien Haller

Post by S-H » Sun Sep 01, 2019 12:12 pm

Disappointing as it was to miss out on Maxi Gomez, I'm delighted that we did.

This guy is perfect for us.

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Re: Welcome, Sebastien Haller

Post by wigwig » Sun Sep 01, 2019 12:42 pm

Gomez yet to score for Valencia BTW. I don't think we dodged one but Haller looks a more complete player.

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Re: Welcome, Sebastien Haller

Post by Colours never run » Sun Sep 01, 2019 1:00 pm

S-H wrote:Disappointing as it was to miss out on Maxi Gomez, I'm delighted that we did.

This guy is perfect for us.

Psst.. we were never really serious about Gomez this summer. Haller was our main target, I'm absolutely convinced of that now by how he compliments our Team perfectly. Gomez was never gonna fit as well in to what we are doing as Haller is. One of the best smokescreen signings we'll ever make I reckon. And it ****ing worked a treat as not one person saw it coming, hence all the pundits in Europe gobsmacked we managed to get it done. The Club knew what they were doing in the summer.

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Re: Welcome, Sebastien Haller

Post by funky chicken » Sun Sep 01, 2019 1:16 pm

If it wasn't for Anderson having Norwich on toast yesterday Haller would've without a doubt been the MOTM yesterday. :thup: and as good as he has been in his previous apprentices I can see what he meant after the Watford game about how he thought he could play better as it really did fell like he turned it up a notch yesterday.

We shouldn't underestimate how impressive he has been settling into the team so swiftly as most clubs who lose their top striker, as we did in Arnie, it can be a bit of a struggle finding an adequate replacement. Let alone finding a way to replace the goals you'll lose. But so far it looks like Pellers and Husillos has achieved it :thup:

But that's what spending big money can do. And both Anderson and Haller our 2 record signings have made the difference since the Watford game.

What I really like about Haller though is he is a team player. Yes his job will be to score goals, he is a striker after all! But he is constantly coming back and trying to win the ball back, passing it and trying to make something happen. And at times yesterday actually made up for the physical presence we were lacking in midfield.

He has been the striker we were expecting Carroll to be really if Carroll wasn't injury prone. But with more pace and a bit of a better passer of the ball.

Keep it up lad! :thup:

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Re: Welcome, Sebastien Haller

Post by Albie Beck » Mon Sep 02, 2019 8:51 am

irving boleyn wrote:How's your French.? Any Scholars here?
French is more regular than English mind, but there are exceptions in pronunciation as Denali said.

it's ah-lair

And he's exceptionally good :D

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Re: Welcome, Sebastien Haller

Post by Patito » Mon Sep 02, 2019 8:54 am

Love this guy :thup:

Anyone missing Arnautovic?

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Re: Welcome, Sebastien Haller

Post by Estuary » Mon Sep 02, 2019 10:22 am

Patito wrote:Love this guy :thup:

Anyone missing Arnautovic?
Ladbrokes.

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Re: Welcome, Sebastien Haller

Post by Patito » Mon Sep 02, 2019 10:31 am

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Re: Welcome, Sebastien Haller

Post by Aceface » Mon Sep 02, 2019 10:44 am

Patito wrote:Love this guy :thup:

Anyone missing Arnautovic?
...or Maxi Gomez

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Re: Welcome, Sebastien Haller

Post by S-H » Mon Sep 02, 2019 10:45 am

I miss Carlton, every.. single.. day!

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Re: Welcome, Sebastien Haller

Post by Hammersfaniow » Mon Sep 02, 2019 11:11 am

Can he take the 9 shirt now Pea has gone I wonder ?

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Re: Welcome, Sebastien Haller

Post by HammerMan2004 » Mon Sep 02, 2019 11:14 am

Hammersfaniow wrote:Can he take the 9 shirt now Pea has gone I wonder ?
And infuriate anyone that has already bought the 22 shirt? Good idea.

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Re: Welcome, Sebastien Haller

Post by S-H » Mon Sep 02, 2019 11:15 am

Hammersfaniow wrote:Can he take the 9 shirt now Pea has gone I wonder ?

I doubt it now, I expect they have sold a lot of (Haller) 22 shirts

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Re: Welcome, Sebastien Haller

Post by Sloop John B » Mon Sep 02, 2019 11:21 am

Aceface wrote:...or Maxi Gomez
Just had a quick look 2 starts, yet to score for Valencia.

Subbed off for Valencia on 61mins as they got beat at his old team Celta Vigo...ouch!!

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Re: Welcome, Sebastien Haller

Post by Hammersfaniow » Mon Sep 02, 2019 1:04 pm

HammerMan2004 wrote:
And infuriate anyone that has already bought the 22 shirt? Good idea.
Plenty of people have swapped shirt numbers into the season, seem to remember the club and even players personally taking the hit financially and allowing people to swap their shirts at the club shops without charge.

Arnie changed his shirt number one or two games into a season. Then again, he was a ****

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Re: Welcome, Sebastien Haller

Post by thespider » Mon Sep 02, 2019 1:31 pm

Patito wrote:Love this guy :thup:

Anyone missing Arnautovic?
He's doing very well in the Chinese league so far and if he was still at West Ham he'd have probably scored this season already but is he worth the hassle, the injury concern and all the b*llocks that comes with him?

No. No. No.

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Re: Welcome, Sebastien Haller

Post by wigwig » Mon Sep 02, 2019 2:04 pm

17th most expensive signing in Europe this season.

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