The January Transfer Window 2020

[Cellar-door]

Fellaini is too old, but Allen is a good age. And him plus Berge would strengthen the midfield significantly

Turning 30 before the season ends is most definitely not a good age for a CM if you're planning long term, he's several years past his peak and would continue to decline into his new deal until as the original poster noted, we'd be desperate to offload. Allen is the exact opposite of a long term move.

Edit- we have only to look at our recent history to see why signing deals for midfielders through their age 31, 32, 33 seasons is a problem:
Noble
Sanchez
Snodgrass
Nasri

[Samba]

Moyes playing a blinder....slip in the suggestion that we may not sign anyone this window, let forums and twitter go into meltdown about Sullivan’s **** skills as self appointed DoF and massively up the pressure on Sulli looking rubbish if he doesn’t sign anyone in the window for Moyes to use. Moyes has neatly laid a turd at Sulli’s door and now has a ready made excuse for us going down - Sullivan didn’t deliver in January.

It could be that OR, slip in the suggestion that we may not sign anyone this window, & then we'll be grateful for any bozo, we sign or loan..
Not that I'm cynical, in any way..

[Believer]

The noises that Moyes is making suggest that we won't go for Allen as he appears to be targeting younger players. If we do sign him I'd suggest it will be a Sullivan signing.

I'd throw our budget at Berge and bring in Giroud and Clyne on loan (no option on either). We'd probably get that lot for £20m with £1m each on the loans. If we look at the money we got for Hernandez and his saved wages that woukd be probably around three quarters of that proposed spend already available.

[Ironing Board]

Turning 30 before the season ends is most definitely not a good age for a CM if you're planning long term, he's several years past his peak and would continue to decline into his new deal until as the original poster noted, we'd be desperate to offload. Allen is the exact opposite of a long term move.

Edit- we have only to look at our recent history to see why signing deals for midfielders through their age 31, 32, 33 seasons is a problem:
Noble
Sanchez
Snodgrass
Nasri

Noble and Snodgrass are two of our best players!

[Believer]

Hammerman will be doing cartwheels - Hayden has scored 2 goals in 2 games ! :lol:

[Ironing Board]

The noises that Moyes is making suggest that we won't go for Allen as he appears to be targeting younger players. If we do sign him I'd suggest it will be a Sullivan signing.

I'd throw our budget at Berge and bring in Giroud and Clyne on loan (no option on either). We'd probably get that lot for £20m with £1m each on the loans. If we look at the money we got for Hernandez and his saved wages that woukd be probably around three quarters of that proposed spend already available.

Giroud would be very handy, but isn’t he off to Inter? Would probably start ahead of Haller if he came.

[NedN]

Noble and Snodgrass are two of our best players!

Which is precisely the issue at the moment...I love Noble but for a team pushing higher than we are, it would be time for him to take a reduced role

[Cellar-door]

Noble and Snodgrass are two of our best players!

They're 2 of the players we are desperately trying to replace because our side lacks any pace with them in it, I like Snodgrass, and in a different side there would be more of a role for him, Noble as well.
Noble in particular being our only option at CM is perhaps the largest cause of our failures. He's not a player who should be an every week midfield fixture at this level, and his inability to cover ground has been one of the major limiting factors tactically all season. I don't think any reasonable person thinks that 2019/20 Mark Noble is anywhere near the player he was 3 years ago, now you want to bring in a worse version of 2016/17 Mark Noble (significantly I'd say) and sign him through at least the same age Mark is now, maybe longer?

[Sir_Trevor]

Bert Traore being linked .

Excuse my ignorance, but who is this? Is it Adama's dad? Or his Grandad?

[Andy.C]

So do we panic buy to try and stay up and get lumbered with more dead wood next year, or just go with what we have got. I think we should go for loans to the end of the year, regardless of the short term cost, more chance of getting some good players in who can get us out of this mess.

[War Pony]

I don't think we are going to sign anyone. It would mean the scummy owners would have to dig into their profits, and they wont.

[PrinceH]

Five Thousand Posts.... and still has only our old keeper tumbled in...

(Too late to bring back Cullen?)

[Johnny Byrne's Boots]

Noble and Snodgrass are two of our best players!

For a maximum of 60 minutes

[Diogenes]

Personally, I am not enamoured by any of the 'prospects' noted on this thread. It also seems, based on many of the responses, neither is anyone else. Bearing in mind, whatever we spend now, will not be available during the summer. So.….. potentially waste money now or take a chance that we stay up and build in the Summer????

[waynepin]

after watching the Chelsea arsenal game barkley should be banging on lampards door demanding a loan out, he aint gonna be in any England squad with bit part roles like that coming on and expected to make something out of nothing, lack of game time is destroying him and if any manager can get the best out of him its moyes

[Southminster Hammer]

So do we panic buy to try and stay up and get lumbered with more dead wood next year, or just go with what we have got. I think we should go for loans to the end of the year, regardless of the short term cost, more chance of getting some good players in who can get us out of this mess.

How many loan players have been a success for us? Struggling to think of many, if we are getting loan players from premier league clubs, they won't be able to play against the clubs they are on loan from will they?

[Faithless]

How many loan players have been a success for us? Struggling to think of many, if we are getting loan players from premier league clubs, they won't be able to play against the clubs they are on loan from will they?

Joao Mario was looking good towards the end, but then it came time to buy and...well off to Russia he goes.

[Bill]

Let's face it, our club is a shitshow and we won't be signing anybody. However, anybody thinking money saved now will be spent in the summer must have been asleep these last 10 years. Gold and Sullivan are just a couple of old vampires bleeding us dry. They have absolutely no intention of spending any of their money.....EVER.

[S-H]

Let's face it, our club is a shitshow and we won't be signing anybody. However, anybody thinking money saved now will be spent in the summer must have been asleep these last 10 years. Gold and Sullivan are just a couple of old vampires bleeding us dry. They have absolutely no intention of spending any of their money.....EVER.

We will have soooooo much money in the summer when they flog Rice, Diop, Haller Anderson et al.

None of whom will want to play in the Championship, I wonder how many Preston players we will able to get for all of that lot.

[Cellar-door]

How many loan players have been a success for us? Struggling to think of many, if we are getting loan players from premier league clubs, they won't be able to play against the clubs they are on loan from will they?

Last 5 years here were the loanees:
Hart- Wasn't particularly good, but did get 23 starts over Adrian who was also bad that year
Mario- took a bit to settle, but played well down the stretch and was one of the better players in midfield by season end
Zaza- Started terribly then wasn't played to avoid triggering a buy clause
Callieri- Didn't work out
Tore- 8 mediocre appearances, totally 450 minutes
Lanzini- huge success
Moses-useful but nothing special
Song- Very good the first time, less the second, derailed by his knees
Emenike- poor
Jenkinson- First choice RB for 2 years.

So overall, 10 players 3 clear successes, 3-5 useful players and a few wastes .