Is our squad better this season?

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Re: Is our squad better this season?

Post by thejackhammer » Tue Oct 29, 2019 7:52 am

Kialos wrote:
Tue Oct 29, 2019 12:43 am
What are you talking about, Hernandez has still played more PL minutes than Ajeti has this season and scored the goal in the 1-1 draw at Brighton!
When Haller was injured. Hernandez didn't get a minute against Man City and would've been sitting on the bench as much as Ajeti if he was still here.

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Re: Is our squad better this season?

Post by Crouchend_Hammer » Tue Oct 29, 2019 10:20 am

I don't think in this case the owners were particularly interested in cashing in on Hernandez. They didn't make much given we bought Ajeti to replace him.
The situation was that he was a great pro whilst he was here, and was happy to stay until the end of his contract, but then a chance came up to join a big team back in Spain which he wanted to take.

Both he and Pelligrini knew he was not going to be first choice, and so he was allowed to leave.
Should we have let him leave? No, of course not, but sometimes it is about doing the 'right thing'

Personally, i think he would have kept his place against Watford after scoring against Brighton, would have scored a couple in that game and would have been competing strongly with Haller for game time from then on

A huge loss for us IMHO as although playing as a lone front man wasn't his ideal role, he was very good at linking with the attacking midfielders

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Re: Is our squad better this season?

Post by hammer1975 » Tue Oct 29, 2019 10:34 am

They knew Hernandez wanted to go (press reports in Spain said his dad was meeting lots of Spanish clubs trying to get someone to bid).
They knew the window was still open for Europe and that a bid was likely.

Should have spent the money in that knowledge. They didn’t as they wanted to bank it. If that’s not the case then they should be quite happy to spend £13m on a striker in January (the fee plus saved wages) from a budgeting perspective. The clubs social media (who are consistently correct on budgets etc) have advised that we’re not spending money in January and want a loan striker.

Shiny balance sheet though. :thup:

every cloud - two more summers of their bull**** and they will sell with zero debt, no LLDC clause and c£600m of totally unjustified profit but at least they will probably f*** off with their spin, lies and bull**** then.

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Re: Is our squad better this season?

Post by steveyrockstar » Tue Oct 29, 2019 11:29 am

funky chicken wrote:
Mon Oct 28, 2019 2:56 pm
To put this pathetic excuse of Hernandez earned us points off the bench argument to bed, he only debatably did it TWICE last season.

1) West Ham 4-2 Burnley - which we may have won anyway as if you take his goal away it's still a 3-2 win;

2) West Ham 4-3 Huddersfield - unquestionably he earned us the 3 points as he got the all important goals to level us and win us the game.

So he arguably only earned us THREE measly points off the bench throughout the whole of last season.

Are we sure we are missing him? :?
3 points is still 3 points (potentially 5 if you include the Burnley game), and it's more than what our current striking options on the bench appear to be capable of. The point is Hernandez was proven to score goals at this level and offered a different kind of attacking threat, and was a great option (in my opinion) off the bench in certain games. Not having him in the squad without a replacement makes us weaker. How much weaker is open to debate. He was sold, I'm sure, not because we had no use for him but simply so the Dildos could cash in before he went for nothing, and knowing that he preferred to leave for regular football. To be clear, I actually had no issue selling Hernandez. It was selling him after our window had closed and without a replacement, and knowing Antonio was injured and Ajeti untried. Total madness. Just gave the impression that behind the scenes we're not putting everything into the season ahead.

We have a history of selling players who have important roles. I still seethe at how we flogged an in-form Bellamy in a Jan window when we were on a roll, and didn't replace him in the window. And then papered over our striker lightness in the Payet season by signing Emineke on loan who was nowhere near on the level we were fighting for that season.

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Re: Is our squad better this season?

Post by Hammer83 » Tue Oct 29, 2019 12:11 pm

bubbles1966 wrote:
Mon Oct 28, 2019 6:48 pm
The answer is no.
I agree do you know how much we spent in the summer? I’ve got a rough idea after sales it was sub £30m ? which to be frank is simply not good enough for a team that moved home to challenge the top 6! we will lucky to get top 10 with that sort of investment.

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Re: Is our squad better this season?

Post by Beavis Danzig » Tue Oct 29, 2019 10:12 pm

might've been handy in a pinch.

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Re: Is our squad better this season?

Post by Cuenca 'ammer » Tue Oct 29, 2019 10:21 pm

did say it was a worldie on the fixtures thread..couldn't for some reason get mine to stay - kept getting blocked by "La Liga" so it said.

watched it live. was a belter though.

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Re: Is our squad better this season?

Post by Westbourne Bill » Wed Oct 30, 2019 6:57 am

I’m starting to think Pelle has clearly seen enough of Ajeti in training to not trust him to play alongside or replace Haller at any point. Perez would indeed have been more useful.

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Re: Is our squad better this season?

Post by westham,eggyandchips » Wed Oct 30, 2019 7:09 am

Its no better, no worse.

Our league position will probably reflect that come May, unless a massive amount of money is spent in January and historically we don't spend much then. :thdn:

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Re: Is our squad better this season?

Post by The Old Man of Storr » Wed Oct 30, 2019 9:46 am

If we had someone of Arnautovic's talent still in the Squad we'd be better than last season but you can't release , sell or loan 5 strikers and hope to replace them with just 2 , neither of which had Premiership experience .

There were doubts over Lanzini and Yarmolenko's fitness this season so we needed another attacking midfielder - Sanchez looked like an afterthought , a filler-in because we couldn't afford a Doucoure and Wilshere was a gamble that hasn't paid off despite his good showing at Bournemouth .

Arnautovic had to go , he'd become too disruptive and Haller is an excellent prospect if we can sort out the service required - we're still short of attacking options and defensive options

However , as with last season and the season before that how we perform seems to depend on one man , Mark Noble - if he plays well the whole team plays well - Mark hasn't played well for the last 3 Premiership games or at least he hasn't influenced games the way he can - replacing him next season will be Pellegrini's biggest problem .

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Re: Is our squad better this season?

Post by Estuary » Wed Oct 30, 2019 10:26 am

The Old Man of Storr wrote:
Wed Oct 30, 2019 9:46 am
If we had someone of Arnautovic's talent still in the Squad we'd be better than last season but you can't release , sell or loan 5 strikers and hope to replace them with just 2 , neither of which had Premiership experience .

There were doubts over Lanzini and Yarmolenko's fitness this season so we needed another attacking midfielder - Sanchez looked like an afterthought , a filler-in because we couldn't afford a Doucoure and Wilshere was a gamble that hasn't paid off despite his good showing at Bournemouth .

Arnautovic had to go , he'd become too disruptive and Haller is an excellent prospect if we can sort out the service required - we're still short of attacking options and defensive options

However , as with last season and the season before that how we perform seems to depend on one man , Mark Noble - if he plays well the whole team plays well - Mark hasn't played well for the last 3 Premiership games or at least he hasn't influenced games the way he can - replacing him next season will be Pellegrini's biggest problem .
Some good points, but I don't think we need to "replace" Noble so much as put a player in with him who will pick up some of the burden of making our game less dependent on one player. Lanzini is miles off the form and fitness needed and is half the player without an Arnie or Payet to play alongside, Wilshire you can't trust his fitness, we cant continue to be rely on just one 30+ midfield player with nearly 500 games on the clock.

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