2019/2020 Relegation Thread

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Re: 2019/2020 Relegation Thread

Post by SEAHammer » Fri Feb 14, 2020 7:11 am

AS pointed out before it's about momentum

Sheffield A L
Everton H D
Leicester A L
West Brom H L (cup)
Liverpool H L
Brighton H D

That's four home games in the last six with no wins and just 2 draws to show for it. So zero momentum going into the next six

Man City A L
Liverpool A L
Southampton H W
Arsenal A L
Wolves H D
Spurs A L

I'm going to optimistically go for 4 points, but let's not kid ourselves it could easily be zero points, with four away games at top six sides we will have to win at home at least once ... so confidence will be at rock bottom and we will almost certainly be in the bottom three with something around 28 points.

Chelsea H L
Newcastle A L
Burnley H W
Norwich A W
Watford H W
Man Utd A L
Villa H W

That gives us the last 7 to turn things around - 12 points would probably get us to 40 and maybe 16/17th place but can we win 4 out of the last five and 3 home games on the spin .... that might be a big ask.

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Re: 2019/2020 Relegation Thread

Post by BondsoBob » Fri Feb 14, 2020 12:08 pm

Personally I will be absolutely amazed if we get out of it this season. As someone else said, a few pages back, it will probably rank as a bigger 'achievement' then the great escape, Tevez, season.

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Re: 2019/2020 Relegation Thread

Post by Napoleon Solo » Fri Feb 14, 2020 12:20 pm

Norwich, Watford, Aston Villa and Bournemouth are dreadful, there is no way West Ham will be relegated.

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Re: 2019/2020 Relegation Thread

Post by BondsoBob » Fri Feb 14, 2020 12:40 pm

Napoleon Solo wrote:
Fri Feb 14, 2020 12:20 pm
Norwich, Watford, Aston Villa and Bournemouth are dreadful, there is no way West Ham will be relegated.
I admire your optimism Napoleon. But I think we will be meeting our Waterloo come the end of the session. :|

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Re: 2019/2020 Relegation Thread

Post by Johnny Byrne's Boots » Fri Feb 14, 2020 12:44 pm

Napoleon Solo wrote:
Fri Feb 14, 2020 12:20 pm
Norwich, Watford, Aston Villa and Bournemouth are dreadful.....................
Supporters of those clubs are saying the same about us.

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Re: 2019/2020 Relegation Thread

Post by sheffhammer » Fri Feb 14, 2020 1:04 pm

back in the great escape season we got odds of 10/1 to stay up from the bookies with about 10 games to go. They are currently offering 1.5/1 us to stay up

The great escape season was by far a much greater achievement, we were dead and buried. We didn't win at home until february that season

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Re: 2019/2020 Relegation Thread

Post by Wilko1304 » Fri Feb 14, 2020 1:19 pm

My last set of predictions had us needing to beat Villa to stay up. And the last spot in the bottom three was between us and them. A draw or better for them had them surviving. That’s a tense game...

Other clubs have worries, we aren’t the only ones.

Watford: the new manager bounce has deserted them now. Their latest results suggest it was a bonus, not something to expect to continue.
Bournemouth: threw away a one goal lead, couldn’t pull away even with big wins over rivals, struggling in defence and their finish to the season is hard.
Brighton: yet to win a Premier League game in 2020 and with a kind fixture list. Lost to Bournemouth, drew with 3 relegation rivals (us, Watford, Villa).
Villa: actually the ones with the most hope, having won some big games lately, but they’re weak on goalscorers and Wembley could prove a distraction (one I’d welcome as a fan, I admit). But Grealish is an incredible player. Taken a risk on a striker and without their best keeper.
Norwich: Have accepted relegation and will go down swinging. A very likeable club and they’ll beat at least one relegation rival - they’ll impact the rest of us.
Palace: having the points is a big deal. Statistically very unlikely to drop, but their form is awful and Zaha clearly wants to go. But I’d prefer they beat Brighton, and all our relegation rivals.

I still think we’ll drop, but it’s not like we’re a turd in a field of diamonds.

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Re: 2019/2020 Relegation Thread

Post by Samba » Fri Feb 14, 2020 4:10 pm

We've got some very winnable games in April & May but, fmob's we'd be leaving it late..

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Re: 2019/2020 Relegation Thread

Post by GreenfordHammer89 » Fri Feb 14, 2020 6:42 pm

I think staying up would be probably one of the biggest escapes we've pulled off when you consider how we are playing and the toxicity which will be hard to shake.

GSB must go regardless, but if we go down I imagine they will. That said, would relegation be bad? If we do it right we can assemble a good squad rather than random individuals that don't really fit in with a proper game plan. It would be good to finally enjoy going to watch West Ham again rather than hoping for damage limitation

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Re: 2019/2020 Relegation Thread

Post by goa127 » Fri Feb 14, 2020 8:02 pm

I just don't get this 'great escape' stuff. We have 13 games against a fair mix of teams. We ideally need 15-16 points. We may not get them but if we do it's hardly a great escape. 4 wins and four draws. Even on our current form we could expect 12. A few seasons back Leicester had 17 points with 10 games left. They won 7. THAT's a great escape

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Re: 2019/2020 Relegation Thread

Post by London Fields Hammer » Sat Feb 15, 2020 2:28 pm

Saints losing today helps a little. I don't see them going down or getting into trouble again but it should make them work a lot harder against Villa.

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Re: 2019/2020 Relegation Thread

Post by sicknote » Sat Feb 15, 2020 2:35 pm

London Fields Hammer wrote:
Sat Feb 15, 2020 2:28 pm
Saints losing today helps a little. I don't see them going down or getting into trouble again but it should make them work a lot harder against West Ham United

Fixed it for you ;-)

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Re: 2019/2020 Relegation Thread

Post by Gazwhu66 » Sat Feb 15, 2020 3:08 pm

London Fields Hammer wrote:
Sat Feb 15, 2020 2:28 pm
Saints losing today helps a little. I don't see them going down or getting into trouble again but it should make them work a lot harder against Villa.
Also takes Burnley to the dizzying heights of 11th on 31 points and as already pointed out, gives Saints even more motivation against us.
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Re: 2019/2020 Relegation Thread

Post by rsnwhu » Sat Feb 15, 2020 3:21 pm

Screw bubbles. Just put this on

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Re: 2019/2020 Relegation Thread

Post by Puff Daddy » Sat Feb 15, 2020 3:30 pm

BondsoBob wrote:
Fri Feb 14, 2020 12:40 pm
I admire your optimism Napoleon. But I think we will be meeting our Waterloo come the end of the session. :|
Yeah and Norwich aren't dreadful either. They are actually, the best bottom of the table team I've ever seen; their problem is they don't always take their chances and they are shaky at the back, but apart from that, they are actually rather good and here you are, I'm going to stick my neck out here, but I think they will be the first team to beat Liverpool this season a bit later

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Re: 2019/2020 Relegation Thread

Post by Corney Beal » Sat Feb 15, 2020 4:26 pm

Napoleon Solo wrote:
Fri Feb 14, 2020 12:20 pm
Norwich, Watford, Aston Villa and Bournemouth are dreadful, there is no way West Ham will be relegated.
All three look to have more fight and confidence about them than we have in recent weeks. We can easily be relegated.
I bet you wrote off Southampton before Christmas.

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Re: 2019/2020 Relegation Thread

Post by MK-Hammer » Sat Feb 15, 2020 6:13 pm

Norwich doing alright in the first half against Liverpool...will be tough for us to get a result there

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Re: 2019/2020 Relegation Thread

Post by Macca1973 » Sat Feb 15, 2020 6:44 pm

MK-Hammer wrote:
Sat Feb 15, 2020 6:13 pm
Norwich doing alright in the first half against Liverpool...will be tough for us to get a result there
They have at least got some fight and a bit of pace which generally tends to do for us :(

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Re: 2019/2020 Relegation Thread

Post by sicknote » Sat Feb 15, 2020 6:53 pm

Macca1973 wrote:
Sat Feb 15, 2020 6:44 pm
They have at least got some fight and a bit of pace which generally tends to do for us :(
A team of snails , slugs and worms would do us for pace

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Re: 2019/2020 Relegation Thread

Post by jastons » Sat Feb 15, 2020 7:16 pm

'Tevez season' line up v Man Utd

Green

Neil
Collins
Ferdinand
McCartney

Benayoun
Reo Coker
Noble
Boa Morte

Zamora
Tevez

I can think of at least three players there who would improve our current first team.

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